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Thanks for the clarification. Once last question. Will you be building TK versions of these or just the head configurations and we purchase the battery tube and tailcap etc on our own?

Just curious before I start picking up parts. I would rather have turnkey versions of each of the above 3 in the photo.

Thanks.

Curtis.
 
Curtis,

I don't know why you are so excited. When you get a new light, you sell it before you even get a chance to play with it. First the DragonHID, then the FFII - 2 of my favorites.

Since you always seem to get your lights delivered before I do
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, I should just have you place the order. When you get the lights, just forward them on to me, and I'll send payment to you instead of the maker. That way I get my lights faster, and you are saved the bother of posting a B/S/T. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/poke2.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crackup.gif
 
Jim, your a funny guy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I have always had the upgrade bug. With everything, not just lights..... but of course there is a point of diminishing returns. I always want the best of the best...or at least the top 2. I have actually been looking at Don's lights for a very long time and never really thought I would be able to EDC them due to size.... was never able to find a 1x123 McLux. It wasn't until I carried around the VIP with BH for a while now that I am starting to think that a little larger size is not all that bad for EDC and was actually talking to another CPF member to make me a PR-T configuration when I stumbled upon the beautiful specimens found in the Aleph.

I like to actually use the lights I get and have not had good luck with some of those that I have purchased in the past. I have given some away as gifts and others as you know end up on B/S/T. Some just don't seem to my liking once I get them home and in my possession. This is also a learning experience for me and I am now getting better understanding of the different levels of light for different jobs and different beam patterns for different tasks, more sidespill/less side spill etc. I am enjoying the learning and trying to ask as many questions along the way as I can from the more senior members of the site.

It is all learning. The DragonHID... thought I would dive more...never did due to time....and couldn't stand the twist only action for operation. I much prefer a switch type. The FFII....saw threads reporting beam problems and switch problems and got a little spooked... sold it before I even opened the box. VIPs....realized after I got them that I didn't need three of the exact same light with the exact same finish and the exact same accessories and my dad didn't want one...even as a gift... he thought it was too small and he would lose it...go figure. You know some things just don't work out for some people. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif I am still learning, though. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I am actually thinking about getting into modding myself but I have to buy the tools and take a chance and see what happens. I may do that next when time permits. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

As for getting my lights before you...... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif ..... no really j/k. I always feel like I am waiting FOREVER...must be due to the fact that I sometimes check this site 10+ times a day for updates etc.

Anyways off to bed. Sorry for the babbling.

Thanks

Curtis.

p.s. Don, sorry to go off topic.
 
Curtis,

I prefer building a complete light to sell as I can confirm complete function and fit of components. In addition to custom builds, I am hoping to do some small runs of "like" configurations where it is a complete light system that I am selling.

For instance I might do a dozen Aleph 3 heads on 2x123 pak with DB917's and Lux III's. The light might have a single or double tritium vial in the tail cap, tab installed and come with the swivel belt clip and the stationary wall mount for storing the light when not carried. I would also include a lanyard that has the micro clip on it. Since I have sourced all of these components, I *should* be able to price such a bundle to the benefit of both myself and the buyer. Wayne and I are looking into ways and means where "standard" ES light engines can be pre assembled and allow us to do final assembly quicker and more effectively. There are many small steps in a build; none of which that are very difficult but they all take the proper tools, know how and time which does add up. If we can pay for some professional assistance in labor and partial assembly, some of our time is freed up and can then be applied in an increase in number of final assemblies. A one man operation has significant limitations based on the old clock! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif
 
Don, like I said before, I'm ready to fly to Berkeley, sleep in your workshop & be paid in McLuxes to be your humble McJedi apprentice. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

PS. Email sent earlier.
 
flashlight,

E-mail read earlier and I now seek the courage to respond! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif Nothing like an unclear, off the wall, custom request to make one re consider offering "custom". /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ...........wizard 611? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohgeez.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinser2.gif
 
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McGizmo said:
flashlight,

E-mail read earlier and I now seek the courage to respond! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif Nothing like an unclear, off the wall, custom request to make one re consider offering "custom". /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ...........wizard 611? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohgeez.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinser2.gif

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Sorry Don, my bad. What was I thinking /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohgeez.gif I so like the McLux PR-Ts but what I actually meant was ES light engine (er, whatever that is /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thinking.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif ) not Wizard 611! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jpshakehead.gif
 
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McGizmo said:
The Aleph system will consist of three heads (20, 27 & 38 mm reflectors), 3 battery tubes (1x123, 2x123 & 1x17500) and the guarded tail cap. All of these components are E series compatible. The Aleph heads will host the ES "light engine" that consists of the E-screw heat sink and EX can. The light engine will accept Lux III or 5W LED's and drivers of the .550" diameter format (Bad Boys, Next Gen, Down Boy's and likely others drivers). The Light Engine can be unscrewed from the Aleph head and replaced or moved to another head.

There are some ideas on the boards for additional battery tubes and heads but this will all take time.....

The Aleph system is a build to suit program that can stand alone or be integrated with the other E series components like the SF of course (Duh!), the UBH, PR and PR-T heads and Balrog's new E tubes. At least that's the theory!

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Don, I think you should put this info in your first post for dumbasses like me /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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McGizmo said:
Curtis,

I prefer building a complete light to sell as I can confirm complete function and fit of components. In addition to custom builds, I am hoping to do some small runs of "like" configurations where it is a complete light system that I am selling.

For instance I might do a dozen Aleph 3 heads on 2x123 pak with DB917's and Lux III's. The light might have a single or double tritium vial in the tail cap, tab installed and come with the swivel belt clip and the stationary wall mount for storing the light when not carried. I would also include a lanyard that has the micro clip on it. Since I have sourced all of these components, I *should* be able to price such a bundle to the benefit of both myself and the buyer. Wayne and I are looking into ways and means where "standard" ES light engines can be pre assembled and allow us to do final assembly quicker and more effectively. There are many small steps in a build; none of which that are very difficult but they all take the proper tools, know how and time which does add up. If we can pay for some professional assistance in labor and partial assembly, some of our time is freed up and can then be applied in an increase in number of final assemblies. A one man operation has significant limitations based on the old clock! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif

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This is the type of info I was looking for Don. Thank you. I will wait and purchase direcly from you when you build the complete mac-daddy bundled turnkeys with the tritium, tab, etc. I will try my hand at the shoppe when I get a little more brave with doing my own modding/building. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Thanks again.

Curtis
 
Flashlight and others,

As soon as the bloody parts are all in hand, I will do some images and text showing the components with hopefully clear designations as well as explainations of the modularity. Because there are a bunch of components that will all be available separately, they need some type of name or means of identification. This kind of information can get lost immediately in threads like this! I will probably start a specific Aleph System Information thread and I will definitely have links to off forum parts breakdown and discription web pages. In the mean time, if you find you can't follow this stuff, no worries, you are certainly NOT alone! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif

If this was one complete light with no options or variations, this would be real easy. It isn't so it ain't.
 
it may be helpful, to stave off future repetitive questions, to provide a summary narrative of the characteristics of the module/ beam/"runtime traits...
e.g.

1x123 BB400 luxIII with 20mm reflector: beam: tighter/brighter than Arc4/KL4 on E1, 1,5 hours on high (compatible with AA tubes)

2x123 DB917 lux III with 27 mm reflector: beam like....., runtime.....

etc...

btw what the heck is a Next gen and a wizard?
 
Hello Don,

Looks really great!
I have one proposal for you reflectors: Maybe you could offer 2 types of orange peel, slight for LuxIII and more aggressive for LuxV. There is really a lack of good LuxV reflectors.
 
PeterB,
If it were only that easy! I am squeaking by on minimums by the manufacturer's standard and maximums by my standard! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif My work around with the Aleph system as well as the PR program has been and will be to shim the reflctor up and away from a 5W until the donut is gone. I have designed these heads so that the reflector can beforced into the window sealing O-ring and allow for this displacement of LED relative to reflector. The donut is a real part of a focused image projection so by one means or another defocusing or blurring is required. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif As to the relative light loss of one over the other, I believe an integrating sphere would be required for determination. For me, the 5W has its real value either in flood illumination or really large diameter reflectors. For flood, a beam shaper or LSD film is a solution as add on to focused reflectors of the smaller diameters. Well there is still much room for improvement and more reason to keep pushingand cutting chips! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Don,

These are going to be very nice! It might look a bit odd but if the heads really are e-series compatible do you think the 38mm version would work on one of Balrog's E4 bodies?

Jon
 
Hello Don,

These "things" look great!
I noticed that some of the Aleph series are already available for sale in the Sandwich Shoppe.
I would like to get one of those Aleph 1X123 Power pack and the tailcap. Will this work with a KL4? I wonder how the black HA will look with the KL4's Natural HA /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Before making my purchase, is there anything else I should know and I should get to complete the assembly?
Thanks!
 
Jon,

The Aleph heads should all fit on Balrog's E bodies. I have a couple E3's and E4's ordered myself. As far as looks go, I can't really say. I think we have been conditioned to expect lights to follow certain forms and appearances but there are many lights which have large reflectors relative to their battery tube diameters. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif

nexro,

I personally have no problem with mixing the HA colors as I feel the dark gray is neutral and goes with just about any color. I did get some HA-Nat 1x123 tubes back yesterday and although they aren't close to what I would consider a target HA-Nat tint, they are HA-Nat. There are some variations in the tint even on a single tube. Anyone who is real picky about color should probably stay away from these. At any rate, I would expect that Wayne will have these up on his site by the weekend. You might want to wait for them. As far as the tail cap goes, I think 15 ohm is what you would want for a resistor but perhaps someone with experience with this combo can chime in. I need to get Wayne set up with tubes first but after that, I will be offering the tubes along with my build to suit McE2S tail cap switches as well. I probably have another 8 hours at the lathe in facing off the lips of the rest of the tubes before I can focus again on builds and include tubes in the package.
 
got my grey/black tubes today and the are gorgeous! Just as well in color as in machining and style!
Will try to post a photo later!

bk
 
I'd like to see how the Aleph bodies look with a Surefire tailcap instead of the McE2S. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/popcorn.gif
 
Mr. T,

The Z52 and Z57 look pretty nice, IMHO. When I get a chance and more of these parts, I want to add some images to a gallery of Aleph combos. I think that the small head (Aleph 2) on a 1x123 pak can especially benefit with a smaller and trimmer tail cap like the stock SF caps. I have been messing with some other tail cap ideas as well but as I have stated elsewhere, time and resources are at least currently keeping me from "showing and telling" and certainly from ordering more parts at present.
 
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