New Dorcy LED/Garrity/Brinkmann

MrAl

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Hi there,

I picked up a new flashlight today at Walmart called the
'Dorcy solid state'. It's got what looks like a standard
Nichia LED mounted in a PR2 base. The light has four AA cells'
in it mounted side by side in a 2x2 pattern, which makes the
body of the flashlight about 1.75 inches in diameter. The
diameter is a little maladroit and that's what i dont like
about it. The light is pretty bright though, but the beam is
very very narrow; the narrowest beam i ever saw so far. This is
clearly a flashlight for those looking for a long range beam
rather then having an up close evenly lit pattern. There is
a slight amount of side lighting also. The beam diameter is
only about 9 inches at a distance of 10 feet. Compared to the
Brinkmann Long Life LED light, this one is about 1/2 the diameter
and about 3 times brighter. It is brighter, but a much tighter
beam. It appears almost as bright as a regular two AA incandescent
flashlight, but with a slightly tighter beam.
On the plus side, the light has really heavy rubber cushions
on both ends, meaning it's pretty drop proof. The body is
heavy yellow plastic. It's got a nice heavy duty switch on it
too. It would make a very easy LS conversion candidate, as there
is pleny of room inside for mounting and already four AA batteries
for the power source, so a circuit wouldnt be required, just a
resistor. Wouldnt want to have to carry this thing around much though :)
Cost: $8.00 US.

While i was there i grabbed a Garrity two AA flashlight to check out.
This is a very nicely designed incandescent light which makes an
excellent candidate for an LS conversion flashlight. It's got
a light gauge stainless steel body with a push on push off tail
switch. The side of the SS body is etched with nice designs.
The name itself is painted on though, not too good. I think it
should have been etched also. The paint will eventually wear
or scratch off whereas the etched design wont. It also comes
with a nice woven lanyard which is very strong, almost impossible
to break, but it's attached to the tail piece which i think pushes
the strength ranking back to medium -- something that would have to
be watched to see how it holds up over time. The tail switch is
push on/off, but it also has a 'locking' mechanism so it doesnt
turn on accidentally, but the drawback to this is that you have
to be careful in that you have to make sure the last time you
pushed the switch in the light went 'off', because since the light
turns on only after you release the switch after pushing, it is
possible to push it in and lock it and then have the switch turn
by accident in which case it would 'pop out' and turn back on
again. It's not that bad i guess, but you have to be aware of this.
If you keep that in mind, it's probably not possible to turn
on by accident.
I think having the reasources to design ANY tail switch of any
kind of constuction, this is not the best possible design.
It's not bad though, and it feels like a heavy duty switch that
wont wear out too soon.
The bulb it uses is called a "T1" bulb,
whatever that is, and looks like the same as the two AA minimag bulb.
The light is surprisingly bright though, beating the minimag.
The light output pattern is just a little strange though, because they
use a reflector that is a sort of semi paraboloid instead of the
typical paraboloid usually used in many flashlights. The reflector
looks like a paraboloid approximated with many tiny flat mirrors, where
each mirror is tilted to match the same set of angles as the tangents
of a paraboloid in 3d space. Again, why they chose to do this when they
obviously had the means to use a standard paraboloid is way beyond
comprehension as it produces a strange, somewhat speckled light output
pattern instead of a reasonably even one. Once modified with an
LS though, this wouldnt matter even a little bit as the LS/o would
use it's own optics. Cost: $8.00 US.

While i was there i noticed that they had more Brinkmann Long Life
LED flashlights. People must be buying these up. They must have
sold at least 30-50 or so over the past month in that one store alone.

"And God said, Let there be LED light: and there was LED light."

Take care,
Al
 
So the dorcy is about 1/2 the diameter of the brinkamn long life? or is it supposed to be switched? and the dorcy is much brighter than the brinkmann, correct? Sounds like a cool light, better drop by wally-world tommorow!
 
Hi again,

ColdLight:
Yes the beam width is about 1/2 the diameter of the Brinkmann Long Life.
Yes, for what it does output, the Dorcy is about 3 times brighter, and
also a much whiter light.

Daniel:
Yeah i liked the bulb too :) The beam was a little narrow for me though,
and when i showed it to someone they liked it so very much so i traded it
for a blue minimag 2xAAA flashlight. I did like it though.

The 3-123 batteries idea sounds interesting too, how much are those batteries,
arnt they rather expensive? If im thinking of the same ones they have about
a 500maH rating?

You sure you have the LS's connected in series and not parallel?

Yes, i didnt like that tail cap that much either. Strange design there
and the reflector too. I guess they were going for part novelty item.

Good luck with your flashlights,
Al
 
best use of maladroit I have seen. I gave one of these to my 9 year old son and it is doing well. I was wondering about using the bulb in a headlight also. Am I correct in assuming that it is a 6v "bulb", is it overdriven? It seems too bright for the cost and being a single LED.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by witsend:
best use of maladroit I have seen. I gave one of these to my 9 year old son and it is doing well. I was wondering about using the bulb in a headlight also. Am I correct in assuming that it is a 6v "bulb", is it overdriven? It seems too bright for the cost and being a single LED.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi there witsend,

I try not to use strange words most of the
time but i couldnt resist that one that time:)
Yes, it's an LED mounted in a PR2 bulb socket, but the light is the whitest light
i have seen so far in an LED. I assumed it
runs off of 6v because there are 4 batteries
in it, and i dont think there is a circuit.
I didnt get to test it out (i should have
taken some measurements) because i traded it
for a 2 x AAA minimag light which i intend to
LED mod, but i might be able to get it back
just long enough to measure the normal operating
current and see if it's overdriven, but im
sure it is. The light is confined to a
very narrow beam and that contributes to the
brightness of the light too. Im not sure
how well it would work out for a headlamp
because of the narrow beam, as it seems it
is a light mainly for use in slightly
longer distance apps. Using the light close
up doesnt work as well as most others because
the beam is so narrow. I guess it really
depends on your use and your preferences
in a light though.

Dan:
The cheapest i have seen those batteries
is two for about ten dollars. Im not sure
if i want to spend that much for batteries,
but i'll have to look into their capacity
and all that and make a comparison.

Good luck with it,
Al
 
I just want to say I really like the dorcy led light. I bought one for myself and my grandpa. i know its a very tightly focused light but around a dark house the side light still works great for finding your way around. I don't think you can get much better in the led world for 8 dollars. I like it better than the brinkman because its probly a tougher light. This light is the perfect canidate for people that don't want to spend a lot of money on a general use light for around the home. It would probly last you several years under normal use on those batteries.
 
I don't have the Dorcy, but I do have a Rebel with a tight beam. The Rebel's easy to fix. Just take out the magnifying lens & you have a nice get around the house in the dark light (leave the ring off too for a much larger coverage area). Same is true with the Pal. Then if you need the spot, just pop the lens back in. Is the Dorcy built like this? TX
 
The little Dorcy light is a gem.

If someone would make a voltage regulator for it, it would be a diadem! Plenty of room inside behind the reflector for a large size circuit if anyone has an idea for that.

We have one at each door, one in each backpack, one for the camping gear -- this being earthquake country, can't have too many working flashlights.

Pushbutton 'on/off' switch is a bit erratic, likely will be the only thing to fail.

It has already saved my life a couple of times walking home after dark, making drivers see me in crosswalks.
 
Hi there,

Yes the dorcy is a nice light, but i found
the case to be just a little bulky.
Not sure if i like that or not. On
the other hand, it would make a nice
case for an LS without requiring a circuit
because it already contains 4 batteries.

--Al
 
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