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Has anyone heard anymore information on the rechargable Maglite that was due out soon that is suppose to dominate the law enforcement field?
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where did you hear about that?
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dominate with what!!?? Maglite would have to go up against SureFire and Streamlight. Hehehe, they better come out with something that can support the weight of a semi-truck and beam so perfect and bright that it can reach out to quadrant 4 of this universe if they decide to play "CATCH-UP" now.
Not until they could produce light quality of Sure Fire at running cost of Streamlight.
Is it too difficult? With latest 3000ma SubC batteries, high output lamp, low cost replacement bulb and texturized reflector might do the job.
The problem with Sure Fire and Streamlight is that they have to stick with low capacity SubC batteries in order to remain compatible with existed investment of their current customer base and their other models.
Rechargeable Maglite doesn't have big existed customers base in LEO sector and doesn't have other mdoels that use subC batteries. This make them easier to go this path.
With their huge resource and eagerness to get into their always-lose battle field, it might not be impossible.
More competition get us better light, isn't it? Let's what they got.
Alan
Is it too difficult? With latest 3000ma SubC batteries, high output lamp, low cost replacement bulb and texturized reflector might do the job.
The problem with Sure Fire and Streamlight is that they have to stick with low capacity SubC batteries in order to remain compatible with existed investment of their current customer base and their other models.
Rechargeable Maglite doesn't have big existed customers base in LEO sector and doesn't have other mdoels that use subC batteries. This make them easier to go this path.
With their huge resource and eagerness to get into their always-lose battle field, it might not be impossible.
More competition get us better light, isn't it? Let's what they got.
Alan
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eynlai:
dominate with what!!?? Maglite would have to go up against SureFire and Streamlight. Hehehe, they better come out with something that can support the weight of a semi-truck and beam so perfect and bright that it can reach out to quadrant 4 of this universe if they decide to play "CATCH-UP" now.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Eynlai, it's not like Mag-Lite has lost it's share in the law enforcement sector.
They have been dominating it with the MagCharger for ten years, and they still are dominating that sector, together with Streamlight (the SL-20X). No other flashlight in that category has ever been so popular and extensively used around the world as those two.
Okay, Streamlight has more models to choose from then Mag-Lite does that are ideal for LEO's. But when it comes to tough, reliable, fullsize rechargeable flashlights (the backbone of all police forces and LE agencies), there is nothing better then a MagCharger or a SL-20X.
And yes, Sure-Fire makes very cool lights that are small and very powerfull. But let's face it, LEO's that carry a Sure-Fire 8X or 9N on their belt as a primary flashlight are a minority. They either have a MagCharger or a SL-20X. Sure-Fires may have the best beams of all, but they just don't seem to have what it takes to be a good primary "police" flashlight.
Just my two cents.
Greetings,
Velcro
dominate with what!!?? Maglite would have to go up against SureFire and Streamlight. Hehehe, they better come out with something that can support the weight of a semi-truck and beam so perfect and bright that it can reach out to quadrant 4 of this universe if they decide to play "CATCH-UP" now.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Eynlai, it's not like Mag-Lite has lost it's share in the law enforcement sector.
They have been dominating it with the MagCharger for ten years, and they still are dominating that sector, together with Streamlight (the SL-20X). No other flashlight in that category has ever been so popular and extensively used around the world as those two.
Okay, Streamlight has more models to choose from then Mag-Lite does that are ideal for LEO's. But when it comes to tough, reliable, fullsize rechargeable flashlights (the backbone of all police forces and LE agencies), there is nothing better then a MagCharger or a SL-20X.
And yes, Sure-Fire makes very cool lights that are small and very powerfull. But let's face it, LEO's that carry a Sure-Fire 8X or 9N on their belt as a primary flashlight are a minority. They either have a MagCharger or a SL-20X. Sure-Fires may have the best beams of all, but they just don't seem to have what it takes to be a good primary "police" flashlight.
Just my two cents.
Greetings,
Velcro
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Velcro,
I have been a cop for 23 years and have seen dramatic evolution for flashlights. You are absolutly right about MagChargers place in the world of LE.
Having said that, I do feel that with the newer batteries, there is much room for improvement. Even with the old batteries, for example the new Streamlight Ultra Stinger uses regular NiCad batteries and is a better light than the Maglite.
I am just glad that the flashlights continue to improve. I remember when I first started in this business, I was using a Green plastic military flashlight which took 3 carbon batteries. You could expect about the same light output as a zippo for about 20 minutes. After that you needed to get more batteries!
The first "good" light I got was a Kel-Lite. It used a regular bulb and 5 C batteries. Wow! What an improvement!
Everyone I know who carries one of the small lights, like the 9N, or Stinger, etc, also has a MagCharger, or Streamlight available. The only possible exception to this is a dayshift guy who might get away with a Surefire 6P, which he uses once in a blue moon.
I have been a cop for 23 years and have seen dramatic evolution for flashlights. You are absolutly right about MagChargers place in the world of LE.
Having said that, I do feel that with the newer batteries, there is much room for improvement. Even with the old batteries, for example the new Streamlight Ultra Stinger uses regular NiCad batteries and is a better light than the Maglite.
I am just glad that the flashlights continue to improve. I remember when I first started in this business, I was using a Green plastic military flashlight which took 3 carbon batteries. You could expect about the same light output as a zippo for about 20 minutes. After that you needed to get more batteries!
The first "good" light I got was a Kel-Lite. It used a regular bulb and 5 C batteries. Wow! What an improvement!
Everyone I know who carries one of the small lights, like the 9N, or Stinger, etc, also has a MagCharger, or Streamlight available. The only possible exception to this is a dayshift guy who might get away with a Surefire 6P, which he uses once in a blue moon.
Hi Henry,
Just out of curiosity, what's light the department issue to LEO? For all those 8N/9N and Stingers, are they issued from the department or from LEO's own pocket.
In Hong Kong, I heard that all officers are issued with Scorpion regardless day or night shift officers (batteries not included). I don't know if those Mac Lite Alkaline they carried in the trunk are issued by the department or not. When I asked, they seems reluctant to say ... for whatever reasons, too embarass?
Alan
Just out of curiosity, what's light the department issue to LEO? For all those 8N/9N and Stingers, are they issued from the department or from LEO's own pocket.
In Hong Kong, I heard that all officers are issued with Scorpion regardless day or night shift officers (batteries not included). I don't know if those Mac Lite Alkaline they carried in the trunk are issued by the department or not. When I asked, they seems reluctant to say ... for whatever reasons, too embarass?
Alan
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alan:
In Hong Kong, I heard that all officers are issued with Scorpion <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Correction:
Only a few special units were issued with the light. The rest were issued Alkaline Mag lites. LEO will get their own lights from their own pocket, Scorpion is still the most popular one, then 6P, 2L or UK4AA. For some reasons, UK offers very good prices in Hong Kong in general.
Alan
In Hong Kong, I heard that all officers are issued with Scorpion <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Correction:
Only a few special units were issued with the light. The rest were issued Alkaline Mag lites. LEO will get their own lights from their own pocket, Scorpion is still the most popular one, then 6P, 2L or UK4AA. For some reasons, UK offers very good prices in Hong Kong in general.
Alan
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We are issued a Stinger. Each cruiser has a MagCharger in it. Anything else is on your own.
Unicorn
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I know that in the Washington, DC area, Stingers (especially the Stinger XT) are a pretty popular item that many officers buy themselves, especially the DC MPD. The Fairfax County, VA police are issued the PolyStinger, and a couple years ago the US Marshalls bought about 200 SureFire 8X's from the store I worked at. Scorpions were fairly popular with State Department personel going overseas, where they wanted a small light, and there might be a problem with charging a recharceable. Surefires seem to be highly regarded, but unless they are issued, the cost is too high for many cops to want to pay.
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The initial cost really isn't the problem. It's those darn batteries. For a dayshift guy who only needs it once in a while, they are perfect, due to the long shelf life. But for a guy who uses it everyday (night), the battery cost is prohibative.
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what do you when on duty or other cops have on your belt because all i normaly see is mag 2 aas
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oh and i saw the funniest thing just yesterday night a cop had in his holster..... are you readdy for this /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif one of it was one of those plastic flash lights that you get at the super market i could not contain my self when i was there but then i thought it was probally modded but still i hope that if you are a cop you atleast have some thing ok and this is not a joke i am series.
Blackbeagle
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To go against the trend, I've seen recent articles about Chicago and other cities going with issue Stingers and restricting carrying of multi-D battery lights due to lawsuit concerns. Here in Hawaii, HPD issues Polystingers.
Hello, everyone.
From my observations,Police officers in Hong Kong seldom use M*glite anymore. I've seen lots of 2 x 123a lights, especially SF 6P.
Alan, you're right!
The price of UK flashlights are quite attractive - especially the new 4AA with clickie switch. I can't see why people still use M*glite.
IMO, those using several D or C - cells Mags are prepared(or, at least, have this intention in mind) to deploy it as a weapon for added safety. Since weapons are not allowed to be carried by HK's law i.e.no guns, knifes, batons... Therefore, these big bulky and long metal flashlights are excellent choices.
That's the silly reason I bought a 6C Mag...But after I was enlightened with the purchase of my SF 6P and other LEDs, I no longer carry my Mag when I go hiking. Instead, D3 P91, L1 and ArcLE together with a folder are what I will take.
If M@glites releases any new model this year, I would be surprised .
Billy
From my observations,Police officers in Hong Kong seldom use M*glite anymore. I've seen lots of 2 x 123a lights, especially SF 6P.
Alan, you're right!
The price of UK flashlights are quite attractive - especially the new 4AA with clickie switch. I can't see why people still use M*glite.
IMO, those using several D or C - cells Mags are prepared(or, at least, have this intention in mind) to deploy it as a weapon for added safety. Since weapons are not allowed to be carried by HK's law i.e.no guns, knifes, batons... Therefore, these big bulky and long metal flashlights are excellent choices.
That's the silly reason I bought a 6C Mag...But after I was enlightened with the purchase of my SF 6P and other LEDs, I no longer carry my Mag when I go hiking. Instead, D3 P91, L1 and ArcLE together with a folder are what I will take.
If M@glites releases any new model this year, I would be surprised .
Billy
