New Malkoff Flashlight: MD2 (Part 2)

[MrGman]

I've just been flicking through this thread and can't believe that Gene chose to use a Kroll switch, I've had trouble with them in the past as have other members. They have a reputation for high resistance and unreliability.
Norm
Norm

Then you didn't read the part about him having Kroll fix that problem and upgrade the switch and that the new one is good up to 4 amps and 100 K actuations and is far improved over the old one. Only a few of the original MD2 had old style Kroll switches is my understanding. All the new units have a much better switch.

 

[Arthur D]

Could some explain the drop-in options w/ this body more?

I own a 18650 platform (deree DBS) and would like to stay w/ those batteries.

I like throw, but am interested in all options. Will any M60 drop use/driven by 18650s?

Is the MCE pill worth the extra $ in performance?

I may be green, but I do know a good thing when I see it.

 

[Bullzeyebill]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20634664@N02/sets/72157619123712719/show/

More will be added at a later date.

Link does not work for me.

Bill

 

[Burgess]

Great Thread ! ! !



BTW . . . .


Posts # 72 and 73 made me


Laugh Out Loud ! ! !


:lolsign:


^^^^^ -- Like that !



Thanks, guys :wave:


lovecpf

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[MrGman]

Link does not work for me.

Bill

Then you will be one deprived guy. I clicked the link from inside your message and it went to it twice. It is slow to open and there is only the 1 image so far. Its a dang fine photo and shouldn't be any different to open then anything else I have linked to in Flickr. My son was able to open it on his totally separate computer going into CPF and finding this thread just fine.

Will need to see if any one else can open it.

 

[Burgess]

Link works fine for me.


:twothumbs

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[Toohotruk]

Me too.

Beautiful light! 😉

 

[Norm]

Then you didn't read the part about him having Kroll fix that problem and upgrade the switch and that the new one is good up to 4 amps and 100 K actuations and is far improved over the old one. Only a few of the original MD2 had old style Kroll switches is my understanding. All the new units have a much better switch.

I did read that, but I am surprised the Kroll was chosen in the first place by someone as experienced as Gene, I understand he is on top of the problem.
Norm

 

[MrGman]

I did read that, but I am surprised the Kroll was chosen in the first place by someone as experienced as Gene, I understand he is on top of the problem.
Norm

By getting Kroll to upgrade the switch which others can buy independently we all benefit thanks to Gene's efforts, so where's the problem?

 

[ElectronGuru]

Link does not work for me.

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[recDNA]

By getting Kroll to upgrade the switch which others can buy independently we all benefit thanks to Gene's efforts, so where's the problem?

So if I buy the "bare bones" black MD2 as is for $39.95 I can expect over 200 lumens? For how long?

 

[rmteo]

0 minutes exactly - JK.

The $39.95 MD2 is just a host - or body in layman's terms. You will need to add one Gene's $55 drop-ins for it to be a flashlight.

 

[recDNA]

0 minutes exactly - JK.

The $39.95 MD2 is just a host - or body in layman's terms. You will need to add one Gene's $55 drop-ins for it to be a flashlight.

Then it's pretty expensive when you add in the gadget to allow low and high power.

 

[Sector7]

Actually thats the low end MD-2, the HA MD-2 is the slighty more expensive version with 0 min runtime.

 

[kyhunter1]

It's made in the USA quality! It's worth it! Get a M60 to go with the MD2, and you have a light that is brighter than anything led that Surefire has currently available to the public, and costs less than most of Surefire's led models.

Then it's pretty expensive when you add in the gadget to allow low and high power.

 

[gsxrac]

Hey, nobody said this was a cheap hobby 😉 And yes your JUST getting the host not a full light. And you could always purchase the selector ring at a later date...

 

[Toohotruk]

You got that right!

 

[paintballdad]

Then it's pretty expensive when you add in the gadget to allow low and high power.

There are some lights i hesitate paying $50 for, and there are those that i don't hesitate paying $100+ for. Surefires and Ra Lights come to mind and now the Malkoff MD2 is on that list. The 2 stage ring is plain genius in its simplicity and has made the M60 and M30 even more useful.

And i'll gladly pay another $100+ when Gene comes out with his black HA MD2. Just can't beat Malkoff's quality and customer service :twothumbs.

 

[Mjolnir]

With the type III anodized host, the 2 mode ring, and a malkoff dropin, the total is around $130 with shipping. While this is a fair amount for a light, it really is a better value than a surefire that you could have bought for the same amount of money. You get 2 modes, a very large choice of dropins to choose from, and HAIII.

 

[MrGman]

Yes the MD2 with the Malkoff module of your choice is well worth the money. If we compare the MD2 with the 2 stage ring and the original M60, you get more lumens than the Surefire E2DL (not as bright as a hot spot, more total light in the complete beam pattern, fact) you get 2 modes like the E2DL, but better and at less cost. Its about $120.00 for the complete MD2 versus $150 for the E2DL. The MD2 has the better switching mode. you don't have to cycle the on/off switch to get the mode you want, turn the separate ring. Which means as a tactical light, if you want to flash it on and off at full power every time you touch the button that's what you get. With the E2DL if you cycle it too fast, then every other time you get low mode. Truth is at any turn on you have a 50/50 chance of getting the mode you wanted. Not so with the MD2, That selector ring is not going to turn itself. If you set it to low it stays at low and vice versa.

The other beautiful thing is the Malkoff will take the higher voltage rechargeables by design with no risk of over driving the circuity and possibly ruining your light. So if you like running AW RCR123's instead of primary because you top them off everyday, then you can do that worry free, its designed to take up to 9V and I have tested them over 10V with no problem. They are in full regulation.

With the higher voltage from the AW RCR123's you get full power at turn on bumping very close to 240 lumens out the front (see page 2) and about 18 lumens in low mode. This is an advantage over the E2DL and I am not saying there is anything wrong with th E2DL. The MD2 doesn't have crenellations which most of us don't want, so it won't tear up your pocket. It is a very handy light.
And mine of course just happens to be danged beautious as well. So my E2DL will be up for sale even though its a measured 210 lumen output screamer.

And of course once you have the host, you can by other modules to play with and drop them in and have fun. Like the M60 Flood or warm or warm flood or .......

G.