*NEW* Nitecore EC4 & EC4S: (Possible) 2x18650, 2000 Lumens
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Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
Exactly. It wouldn't be any hassle to list it, but doing so would really lock them into keeping things consistent which I could see causing problems.
Exactly. It wouldn't be any hassle to list it, but doing so would really lock them into keeping things consistent which I could see causing problems.
chuckhov
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Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
Well, I have understood you perfectly and, I'm 6-3'! (doesn't help)
It's just like with my Acebeam K40M - Sure it will throw 500m (I think), problem is the "Near Field" is so damn bright that you have to try and squint past it to see anything in the distance.
I'm starting to think that general purpose beams are ok if you only can carry one light, but that there is something to be said for a dedicated Flooder And a dedicated Thrower. - So we only need 3 lights, right? - WRONG!
Hell - I Need more EDC's that three, and I don't even EDC;-)
Thanks,
-Chuck
Well, I have understood you perfectly and, I'm 6-3'! (doesn't help)
It's just like with my Acebeam K40M - Sure it will throw 500m (I think), problem is the "Near Field" is so damn bright that you have to try and squint past it to see anything in the distance.
I'm starting to think that general purpose beams are ok if you only can carry one light, but that there is something to be said for a dedicated Flooder And a dedicated Thrower. - So we only need 3 lights, right? - WRONG!
Hell - I Need more EDC's that three, and I don't even EDC;-)
Thanks,
-Chuck
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WarRaven
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Right on, thanks Chuck.
Yes, you're a big fella, and if it's limiting to yourself that tells me, this may work great for some.
Though it's going to work against me some unless I hold it over my head on turbo, I suppose that'd work but.. Idk.
I can only imagine used at waist height, wow, wall of light.
Yes, three lights lol, I agree.☺
Nitecore did good, made a clear difference here and could use two of these lights to compliment each other IMO.
Maybe that was plan.
Right on, thanks Chuck.
Yes, you're a big fella, and if it's limiting to yourself that tells me, this may work great for some.
Though it's going to work against me some unless I hold it over my head on turbo, I suppose that'd work but.. Idk.
I can only imagine used at waist height, wow, wall of light.
Yes, three lights lol, I agree.☺
Nitecore did good, made a clear difference here and could use two of these lights to compliment each other IMO.
Maybe that was plan.
chuckhov
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Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
I view this new EC4S beam profile as sort of an extension to what a single 18650 tube light can do... Sort of like a Super Tube light, if you will. - I have one of those Red Convoy S2+, and it's really almost all Flood - A wall of light... I don't need any more light that that up close, but if I did need to see a bit farther (and still needed to light up everything up close), then this new light would probably be the ticket.
Just to chose one of the Nitecore EC's for all around use, I would pick the EC4 XM-L2 model, for it's more general purpose beam profile.
But that's just this old man's view, and YMMV;-)
-Chuck
I view this new EC4S beam profile as sort of an extension to what a single 18650 tube light can do... Sort of like a Super Tube light, if you will. - I have one of those Red Convoy S2+, and it's really almost all Flood - A wall of light... I don't need any more light that that up close, but if I did need to see a bit farther (and still needed to light up everything up close), then this new light would probably be the ticket.
Just to chose one of the Nitecore EC's for all around use, I would pick the EC4 XM-L2 model, for it's more general purpose beam profile.
But that's just this old man's view, and YMMV;-)
-Chuck
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Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
These both looks like such great lights! I haven't held one yet, but the size looks like it's close to some 1x18650 lights. So you're getting extra output (with the EC4S) and longer runtime. And unlike the TK35, it appears to be more sleek and compact.
These both looks like such great lights! I haven't held one yet, but the size looks like it's close to some 1x18650 lights. So you're getting extra output (with the EC4S) and longer runtime. And unlike the TK35, it appears to be more sleek and compact.
Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
This is the light I've waited for in XHP-50. Most of my throws are less than 200 meters, but the ability to light up an entire warehouse or parking lots is what I'd use this one for. Very short side by side battery set up. My only complaint as I already have the EC4 XM-L is that the host might be too light and heat up quickly. It's size does put in cargo pocket EDC format. It gives some throw lots of flood and a small carry size.
This is the light I've waited for in XHP-50. Most of my throws are less than 200 meters, but the ability to light up an entire warehouse or parking lots is what I'd use this one for. Very short side by side battery set up. My only complaint as I already have the EC4 XM-L is that the host might be too light and heat up quickly. It's size does put in cargo pocket EDC format. It gives some throw lots of flood and a small carry size.
Parrot Quack
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Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
And here I sit, waiting for it to be released for sale so we can see what the EC4S can really do.
It would be nice to read a spec. sheet.
And here I sit, waiting for it to be released for sale so we can see what the EC4S can really do.
It would be nice to read a spec. sheet.
Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
I love the light, I've had the EC4 for a few weeks. But, I'm getting around 600µA on stand by. That's way too high even to just let sit around for any length of time. I love the light but this kills its usability.
I love the light, I've had the EC4 for a few weeks. But, I'm getting around 600µA on stand by. That's way too high even to just let sit around for any length of time. I love the light but this kills its usability.
Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
Is physical lockout not possible on the EC4/s?
Is physical lockout not possible on the EC4/s?
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Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
I use the Nitecore EC4 on a daily basis so the inability to not lock out is not important; I change batteries as soon as a sequence of two flashes occur. I always carry spare batteries.
I use the Nitecore EC4 on a daily basis so the inability to not lock out is not important; I change batteries as soon as a sequence of two flashes occur. I always carry spare batteries.
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Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
Maybe we see an announcement for the EC4s tomorrow...
Maybe we see an announcement for the EC4s tomorrow...
Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
Pretty simple: Remove batteries for longer term storage.
Pretty simple: Remove batteries for longer term storage.
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Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
600!!?!?! That's crazy high. I thought I saw a review mention something like 120µA? I could live with that, but no more. Removing batteries is a ridiculous half-measure and should only be required for long term storage...like 6 months or so. I don't want to sit a light down and "forget" about it for a couple weeks, then find it drained so much when I come back to it.
Too much waiting on the EC4S...I'm getting pretty close to just getting the TK35 (2015) instead.
600!!?!?! That's crazy high. I thought I saw a review mention something like 120µA? I could live with that, but no more. Removing batteries is a ridiculous half-measure and should only be required for long term storage...like 6 months or so. I don't want to sit a light down and "forget" about it for a couple weeks, then find it drained so much when I come back to it.
Too much waiting on the EC4S...I'm getting pretty close to just getting the TK35 (2015) instead.
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Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
I have not used my Nitecore EC4 for almost 48 hours and it still read '3 Blink Voltage'; I will keep it in stand-by with no use for another five days. I will then see the voltage by how many 'Blinks' as well as a ZTZ Load Battery Tester.
I have not used my Nitecore EC4 for almost 48 hours and it still read '3 Blink Voltage'; I will keep it in stand-by with no use for another five days. I will then see the voltage by how many 'Blinks' as well as a ZTZ Load Battery Tester.
KeepingItLight
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Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
In many of its 2015 models, including the otherwise excellent Nitecore P36 that I own, Nitecore has shown a disdain for engineering low standby drains. I do not understand why. Selfbuilt measured standby current in the P36 at 2.55mA. Eagletac, Fenix, and Zebralight, just to name a few, have no trouble getting this right.
Is this symptomatic of other shortcomings in the electronics of Nitecore’s drivers? I do not know. I have noticed on runtime charts, however, that many Nitecore flashlights lack the completely flat regulation produced by top-notch buck/boost drivers such as the ones designed by Zebralight.
In many of its 2015 models, including the otherwise excellent Nitecore P36 that I own, Nitecore has shown a disdain for engineering low standby drains. I do not understand why. Selfbuilt measured standby current in the P36 at 2.55mA. Eagletac, Fenix, and Zebralight, just to name a few, have no trouble getting this right.
Is this symptomatic of other shortcomings in the electronics of Nitecore’s drivers? I do not know. I have noticed on runtime charts, however, that many Nitecore flashlights lack the completely flat regulation produced by top-notch buck/boost drivers such as the ones designed by Zebralight.
Overclocker
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Re: *NEW* Nitecore EC4: 2x18650, 1000 Lumens
chinese state run media reports that the "award-winning" highly-anticipated ec4s is delayed
chinese state run media reports that the "award-winning" highly-anticipated ec4s is delayed
