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Wouldn't you be using HIR1 for the high beams though?
New Philips HIR2 scrutinized
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I have a BMW Z3... I'm guessing reflector lows/highs.
But the HIR2s are low beams for my car. That's really all I'm getting these for. I hardly ever use my brights.
I was going to say, if you have high beam DRLs and you want to use HIR1's, then it would be highly advisable to disable your drls.
Be as precise as you can when trimming the tabs, cut them a smidge short, and file them down ever so slightly. You do not want the bulbs to be loose in their sockets.
Good luck, drive safely.
Be as precise as you can when trimming the tabs, cut them a smidge short, and file them down ever so slightly. You do not want the bulbs to be loose in their sockets.
Good luck, drive safely.
Thanks for the tip!!
XeRay
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I am considering getting into marketing both of these Philips bulbs. HIR1/9011 and HIR2/9012 to my exisiting customer base as an OEM using other Philips bulb products (HID currently).
Just wondering if anyone who is set up here would want to manage a Group Buy. I don't have the time for such efforts so your efforts would be rewarded.
Just wondering if anyone who is set up here would want to manage a Group Buy. I don't have the time for such efforts so your efforts would be rewarded.
My 2005 Matrix uses the low beam for DRLs. I'd like to go with the new Philips HIR2s for my low beams, but I don't want to damage them by having them on at reduced voltage all the time.
I read that high beams can develop a brown crust if used on low voltage - will the same thing happen with lows? Any other concerns? Thanks for the advice.
I read that high beams can develop a brown crust if used on low voltage - will the same thing happen with lows? Any other concerns? Thanks for the advice.
Alaric Darconville
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You could always disable the DRLs unless you live in Canada (DRLs are not required in the U.S.)
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You won't.
No, because the reduced voltage for DRL operation of low beams is much higher (less reduction) than the reduced voltage for DRL operation of high beams, as a matter of regulation. The bulbs will be operating well within the temperature range needed for the halogen cycle to operate efficiently.
Ok, I'm going to give the Philips HIR2s a try, then. You guys know way too much about this stuff! lol.
Hey, I wish I would have found this thread before going out and buying Silverstar Ultras for my wife's CRV. Then I would have known not to throw away $50. They are worthless.
So my final question is this: if I put HIR2s in my low beams, and the Toshiba 9011s in my highs, what bulbs should I use in my fog/driving lights if I do a lot of commuting on narrow, windy roads, often in fog? Right now they just have normal 9006s in them. Thanks!
Hey, I wish I would have found this thread before going out and buying Silverstar Ultras for my wife's CRV. Then I would have known not to throw away $50. They are worthless.
So my final question is this: if I put HIR2s in my low beams, and the Toshiba 9011s in my highs, what bulbs should I use in my fog/driving lights if I do a lot of commuting on narrow, windy roads, often in fog? Right now they just have normal 9006s in them. Thanks!
Alaric Darconville
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Not just this thread-- lots of threads about how worthless those things are.
Use whatever bulbs those fixtures were designed for. Fog lights seldom improve by increasing their output. Also, if the conditions warrant fog lights, the conditions warrant slowing down. Fog lights do not magically allow you to continue driving 65mph in fog, rather they allow you to more safely creep along in the fog while being able to see the road markings.
If the fog lights have clear lenses, then you might consider turning them yellow.
Yeah, they're worthless except to the Sylvania people, who spend a ton of money advertising this junk and then rake in two tons of money hand over fist as people taken in by the ads buy the junk. It's the American way!
They're fog lamps, not "fog/driving lights". Don't try to put HIR2s in them (too much glare no matter how they're aimed). You could put in a better 9006 such as the Philips Xtreme Power 9006XP, and yes, yellow fogs work better than white ones. There aren't any good yellow 9006 bulbs, just junk. You can turn your existing fog lamps yellow, though.
Make sure the headlamps and fog lamps are aimed correctly!
Alright, thanks for the input here. You have changed the way I think about automotive lighting a bit. I had a Lexus LS 430 and I put a high quality 3000K HID kit in for the fog lights, and I was struck by the fact that it seemed to do very little to help my nighttime driving. Probably it mostly blinded oncoming drivers.
I don't have that car anymore and downsized recently to this Toyota. I hope that the optics of the headlamp assembly are good enough to warrant putting in the 9012s and that I won't just be causing unneeded glare. Beyond that, do you honestly think that special fog lights will help at all? Sounds like the benefits may be at the margins at best.
I don't have that car anymore and downsized recently to this Toyota. I hope that the optics of the headlamp assembly are good enough to warrant putting in the 9012s and that I won't just be causing unneeded glare. Beyond that, do you honestly think that special fog lights will help at all? Sounds like the benefits may be at the margins at best.
Alaric Darconville
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no such thing
Yep. Again, no such thing as a "high quality HID kit".
I believe the '05 Matrix does have a bulb shield that covers the complete end of the bulb (a cup shape, not a ring shape). If it's not a cup-shaped bulb shield, don't install the HIR2, as it does not have a coated tip. I don't know otherwise how good or bad they are.
Very few factory-option fog lights are any good. If their literature doesn't differentiate between "fog" and "driving", then probably it's not good for either one.
Again, even real fog lamps are for use in very low speed conditions. They don't magically pierce the fog and enable normal highway speed driving. Also, they are for use ONLY during fog (or extremely heavy rain or snowfall). Don't use them otherwise.
Alaric Darconville
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Sorry, usually I catch that, and indicate the difference to the uninformed.
Regarding the turning of the lenses yellow, does the Duplicolor Metalcast Yellow withstand UV and weathering pretty well, or would it need to be topcoated with something like the spray from the Doublehorn Products kit?
juniormarbles
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Sorry if that was already answered somewhere, but:
is there an HIR2 Philips or otherwise with the anti-glare cap on the bulb?
If not, what would be the bulb with the strongest lumen-output I could use in the foglight unit of my car (currently 9006, but willing and able to modify bulb base)?
Thanks,
JM
is there an HIR2 Philips or otherwise with the anti-glare cap on the bulb?
If not, what would be the bulb with the strongest lumen-output I could use in the foglight unit of my car (currently 9006, but willing and able to modify bulb base)?
Thanks,
JM
No.
Oh, there are all kinds of bulbs you can hack to fit (physically) in place of a 9006. Some of them even have the filament in more-or-less the right place. But really, what you want is a 9006. The best one is the Philips Xtreme Power 9006XP.
juniormarbles
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Final question:
Does Philips or Toshiba make HIR bulbs that fit or can be retrofitted for the high beam position of driving lights (H7 base)? I recall that the HIR2's discussed here are right angle plugs, and am not sure that they will physically fit when trying to replace H7 (on my 2007 Jetta)
Also still unanswered: a low-price source for Philips Extreme Power and HIR?
Many thanks,
JM
Does Philips or Toshiba make HIR bulbs that fit or can be retrofitted for the high beam position of driving lights (H7 base)? I recall that the HIR2's discussed here are right angle plugs, and am not sure that they will physically fit when trying to replace H7 (on my 2007 Jetta)
Also still unanswered: a low-price source for Philips Extreme Power and HIR?
Many thanks,
JM
Alaric Darconville
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HIR is available only in 9012 and 9011; HIR2 only in 9012. store.candlepower.com offers them, and has excellent, attentive service.
tay
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powerbulbs also sells Extremepower too, but not HIR.
As for the H7 question, I believe that has been answered. Try the Osram Rallye or Hyper H7 bulbs. They are a H9 bulb rebased onto H7. They output ~2100 lumens, instead of the ~1500 lumens of a H7, and only draw 10w more (which will be inconsequential on your wiring).
Of course, beefing up the wiring by adding a harness isn't necessary, but it will help things out.
As for the H7 question, I believe that has been answered. Try the Osram Rallye or Hyper H7 bulbs. They are a H9 bulb rebased onto H7. They output ~2100 lumens, instead of the ~1500 lumens of a H7, and only draw 10w more (which will be inconsequential on your wiring).
Of course, beefing up the wiring by adding a harness isn't necessary, but it will help things out.
Phatty McPatty
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Got a question, most likely for Scheinwerfermann. I bought the HIR2 (for 9006 application), put one in and compared it directly to the 9006 halogen and they seem to be equal in light output. I realize my eyes are not light meters, and am assuming the issue lies with the vehicle rather than the bulbs. What could be causing this? I don't have a multimeter, but could there be a voltage or resistence issue? I'm scratching my head since everyone loves these things. Any guidance would be appreciated.Thanks,Patrick
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