New Professional's Favorite 20 Million Plus Candlepower Spotlight

Tuchmajic

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Thanks, I just went back to Advance Auto Parts, and purchased another light. Now I have a backup, and a charger...:twothumbs
 

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I too misplaced my A/C charger.

Can anyone look at their charger for this light and tell me the polarity of the charger. Is the center of the plug +, or the outer part?

I don't want to reverse charge it.

Also, I don't recall if the D/C plug charges the light, or os it to just run the light?

Can I charge on my 12V battery car charger just clipped to the cig lighter adapter? (It has 3 charge rates - 50A, 10A and 2A.) Will the 2 amp be too much for this battery?
 

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OK, just to keep this thread alive, I hit the panic button for one of these locally. Said it was in stock, but a few minutes later, big red lettering said call store. Great. Just my luck. I've gone from 4 or so SLA Stanley incans and HIDs with bad batteries from too long on the shelves, to this.

I'll just use my stanley and coleman LEDs, and to heck with the rest.

The SLA headaches aren't worth it, and spending several hundred bucks for a decent HID with anything but SLA power, is out of the question.

The more I look at my 5 watt Stanley LED, the more I almost say, "I can live with this...if I have to".

EDIT: I just called and canceled the order, as it was not in stock, even though the store indicated it was.

5 attempts at a high power spot, and 5 misses. I'm done...goodbye cruel world!

Charles
 
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r1derbike

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As luck would have it (luck?) I had one of these spotlights appear out of nowhere, and flopped in my car. 'bout time something went right. 40 bucks with a coupon code. Here's the short version of a review:

The halogen bulb in this beast is designed for automotive headlamps. The low power setting utilizes a filament with a cupped deflector beside it, to widen the beams on a car. Worthless on a spotlight, as nearly 30 percent of its light is blocked, resulting in an off center (bulb is not oriented properly) black arc in the beam. Time to pitch the bulb, and get something designed for spotlights.

The reflector surface appears spun like a cymbal, resulting in circular ridges that appear in the beam. A different effect, reminiscent of looking at a tree's age rings, with a very hot spot in the middle. I thought the '60s were out. This freaks me out.

The battery, of course, has much diminished capacity from being neglected too long on the shelf. I bought the light, because I have two 12V. 7AH hobby SLAs...exact replacements.

Nice enclosure, however. Everything is rubber, except the gray plastic, and the bottom stand/handle. The bottom stand/handle does have a rubber coated center bar, for non-slip grip.

The "area" LEDs embedded in the bezel, will light a small space. Think no bigger than a small dining room. Was disappointed in the LED area array. Hmmpphh.

This is a 40 buck spotlight, folks. Its well-made outside hides what's inside, until you turn it on. "Holy-Toledo, Batman! Where's the beef?"

I actually started laughing when I turned it on; the tree rings freaked me out, but the long reach of the spot redeemed it...a bit.

The spot takes center stage on this light. Everything else is just...well...smoke and mirrors.

EDIT: The light saw its first use tonight, against a skunk. The reflections off the back of the skunk's eyes were haunting; almost like two LED lights looking back at me. That was the end of the reflections, I'm afraid. Dispatched.

Charles
 
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cccpull

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I have this light and I although I agree on the led setup and it wouldn't bother me if it wasn't there, I'll bet it will run on the leds for days.
The low beam H4 looks terrible for the reasons you mention, but the high beam has great throw and it's mighty bright (as it should be, 120W halogen).
The light is huge and heavy, but if you want to throw a beam outdoors into the night, it will. :D

BTW I haven't experienced any problems with my 4 sla spotlights.:shrug:
 

r1derbike

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I'm going to rotate the reflector or bulb or both to at least center the black arc @12:00, on low. Low is so dim, I'd prefer to just light what's low, and in front of me.

If I ever got a decent SLA device out of the box, that would surprise me! Rotten luck, I suppose.

The spot on this thing is incredible, for what it is. Certainly worth the 40 bucks I paid. I have a Schumacher solid state battery charger/conditioner I had to use on the original battery, to get it to work somewhat, but the two spares I have are working fine, in the light.

I'd give this light a seven out of ten, because of the bulb alignment issue, weak LEDs, and nearly dead SLA battery (too long on shelf).

EDIT: I think the runtime stated for the LEDs only was 60 hours!

Charles
 
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r1derbike

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Well...heck! I broke the envelope on the p43t H4. Can't find a replacement clear bulb for it, with 120/60 watt rating.

Has anyone been able to find the above H4?

I've scoured auto parts stores and online suppliers, and found plenty of replacements, but they have the tip and part of the envelope blacked-out, for automotive headlight use.

Charles
 

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Well...heck! I broke the envelope on the p43t H4. Can't find a replacement clear bulb for it, with 120/60 watt rating.

Has anyone been able to find the above H4?

I've scoured auto parts stores and online suppliers, and found plenty of replacements, but they have the tip and part of the envelope blacked-out, for automotive headlight use.

Charles

Turn it into HID? :D :poke:

While that thought was only partially in jest, it reminded me that you may have better luck with auto supplies intended for "off road use" - that are not certified for use on public roads. The HID kits are this kind, after all. Of course I am not advocating irresponsible use but we're not even on the roads - I always joked that I can buy non-car-approved kits for my lights because my lights move around on two feet :D

Of course if you want to turn it into HID we eagerly await the results of your conversion!
 

r1derbike

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Think I'll go with an Hella 55/100 watt off-road H4. Only 5 bucks. Don't think the spotlight has it in it for the 90/130 watt Hella H4. The wiring is far too small and the battery too small as well.

Big case, diminutive innards...yep, that's it!:twothumbs

I may put an HID upgrade in it for gits and shiggles, after I toast and break some more Halogen Lamps, trying to align them in the reflector.

:oops:
 

cccpull

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Think I'll go with an Hella 55/100 watt off-road H4. Only 5 bucks. Don't think the spotlight has it in it for the 90/130 watt Hella H4. The wiring is far too small and the battery too small as well.

Big case, diminutive innards...yep, that's it!:twothumbs

I may put an HID upgrade in it for gits and shiggles, after I toast and break some more Halogen Lamps, trying to align them in the reflector.

:oops:

I've been considering doing a 50w hid upgrade to it, maybe it's time:thinking:, but I would then loose the beautiful low beam!:green:
 

r1derbike

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Yah...that low beam is a puker, for sure. Not well thought-out, that. As crummy as it is, the LEDs almost would look better...almost.

Charles
 

dthrckt

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haha, yeah, awesome unit for the money, but low beam is terrible. The beam and artifacts are so ugly that for a second I thought it was broken.

anyway, I've played with mine a bit, so here's some fyi..

I cycled the battery several times w/ bantam bcdxII. If I drain to 12V she'll take ~5500ma, not bad imo, but...runtime on high is pretty short. I won't be going much over 15min (continuous use) because I want to get some life out of the battery.

a couple tweaks for more light - I took the bezel off and clipped the supports for the leds with end cutters, so that they protrude through their 'reflector' farther. noticeable difference in spill but maybe not worth the hassle for most people.

Next I bent the bulb retaining spring a bit. It was too loose. Now it is snug enough for me to align it and reassemble/use the light w/o it moving. Hotspot got noticeably more concentric.

I also squeezed the two little curved ears on the bulb housing with pliers. That just made them flat. I didn't change the angle at all. That 1 or 2 mm made a BIG difference - much more focused.

If you think about tweaking yours, experiment first. I would expect that the amount and direction of adjustment will vary between lights...
 

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Does anyone know a replacement battery for this thing with a decent capacity? Please? I don't like a half hour runtime. Perhaps bundle a couple of 18650 together? or AA batteries?

Thanks!
 

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I just picked one up for $35 at Advance Auto Parts. $59.99 plus cotter pin (as cart filler) + $25 off a $60 purchase = WIN

I'm going to be putting a 75W ballast and 75W 4300K HID Bulb in it ;)
 
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I have this same light and actually the pictures here don't do it justice.

I took this one just awhile ago at 60yds. This is just about how it looks in real life.

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firelord777

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Nice beamshots!

I saw this light last time in advance auto parts, but it has been there for a couple of years already, as a little kid I've seen it, before I was a flashaholic
 

ttmax

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First just to let everyone know, I am a newbie to this forum, that being said:

I hope somebody still has a working PF 20+ MCP beam as I was using mine and the whole rotatable lens cover came off and pulled the led wires out of where they are soldered in the base of the unit AND also the white wire from the lens/bulb section.

My question is "Where do the red and white wires attach on the base unit (the part that has the switches and battery) from the LED wire If anybody can provide a pic of the inside connection I would be in great debt. I have had this unit for years and love it when I am burning twigs and branches that are constantly falliung from my 2 acre lot in Haymarket VA. I love the LEDs because they last forrever and give of enough light to iluuminate the brush pile to throw into my burn barrels. I am also thinking of upgrading the bulb with a SS H4 or maybe a HID. Just found the forum and hope I don't post innappropriately or in the wrong fourum. Thanks for any replies.

i tried to embed a pic but don't know how yet. I have pics of both the USb/12V Power Port circuit board AND the Switch Assembly circuit board of my PF 20+MCP where the wires pulled off. Not sure which side they came from.

Thansk Again!
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firelord777

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Hey there,

If you are on the computer, you have to upload them first to a hosting site, I use imageshack. Don't worry, that happened to me as well whenI tried to post the pictures for a review:) lots of good people here:)

After that, you copy and paste them to here.

Alternatively, if you have an Ipod, you can get tapatalk, or if you're cheap like me, jailbreak it and get it for free, then use the post picture and take the picture from your saved images and tapatalk will do it for you:)

Cheers:)
 

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I hope somebody still has a working PF 20+ MCP beam as I was using mine and the whole rotatable lens cover came off and pulled the led wires out of where they are soldered in the base of the unit AND also the white wire from the lens/bulb section.


Afraid this is the best I can do for you (from the previous re-badged version) ;)

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Digital

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Anyone taken one of these and put a 100/170W H4 Halogen or a 100w 4300k HID in it? Which would put out more light?
 
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