wyager
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XR-E will have four visible bonding wires going to the die.
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XR-E will have four visible bonding wires going to the die.
compasillo
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it's even easier...
The XR-E LED is square, the XP-E rounded.
The XR-E LED is square, the XP-E rounded.
Also the XR-E will have a dome and the XP-E will not.
Got my D11 today but it has problem when i fed him using AW 14500. I could only turn on-turn off the light with only twist the head. I can not accessed the hidden mode as well choosing brightness level.
Today i also got the D10 Q5 which i got from MP which is have the same problem with D11.
But they both function well when i switch with Alkaline / Nimh. Anybody here have same experience ?
Today i also got the D10 Q5 which i got from MP which is have the same problem with D11.
But they both function well when i switch with Alkaline / Nimh. Anybody here have same experience ?
compasillo
Flashlight Enthusiast
The reason is the extra length of the protected battery. That's why you don't have problems with normal sized cells.
DHart
Flashlight Enthusiast
Line up an alkaline AA, NiMH AA, lithium AA, and several brands of 14500 li-ions and you will see that they are all differ in length to some degree. If you compare 14500 cells, you will see that some are longer than others. AW tends to be on the shorter side, as compared to Ultrafire, etc.
I have no problem running AW 14500 li-ions in both of my D10 R2's (that's all I run them with), but the other brand 14500 cells are too long for my D10's, as well as for some other AA size lights. The larger AA lights can usually take the longer 14500 cells without a problem. Quark AA for example has enough space for the longer cells.
I had also D10 R2, which is i always used to run on AW 14500 without having any problem like my D11 and D10 Q5. But i had lost it somewhere.
Also i have D10 SP Camo which is also could fully function with AW14500. Does the problem caused by the spring inside the piston or maybe the ring inside the head?
Also i have D10 SP Camo which is also could fully function with AW14500. Does the problem caused by the spring inside the piston or maybe the ring inside the head?
compasillo
Flashlight Enthusiast
Maybe a little from both. To solve this problem I would try to shorten a bit the spring...
andrewnewman
Enlightened
So after reading all the bad things people had to say about the D11 I, naturally, had to have one. Thankfully BatteryJunction obliged me (they are local so it was almost an impulse purchase).
I got the thing home and was immediately struck by several things:
1. My house didn't catch fire.
2. My credit rating didn't suffer.
3. I didn't develop painful boils on my flashlight-holding hand.
In fact it is a perfectly nice little light with (in my case) matching ano that is flawless. The build is consistent with the D10 and every single unfortunate observation that people pointed out is true. No clip, no shortcuts, no additional lumens and weaker tailstanding.
Even so, it works very well. The ramping is predictable and the runtime is excellent. The tint is slightly warmer than most of my XP-G based lights. The beam pattern is quite similar to my big TK45 (it's floody). Outdoors it lights up an unlit trail on medium easily and can light up a whole campsite on high.
The piston is smooth and (so far) reliable (remember I've had this a few hours). It may be too bad that Nitecore couldn't have been more inspired in their engineering but this is far from an undesirable light. Mine will definitely not be on the marketplace. It's going to go camping soon.
I got the thing home and was immediately struck by several things:
1. My house didn't catch fire.
2. My credit rating didn't suffer.
3. I didn't develop painful boils on my flashlight-holding hand.
In fact it is a perfectly nice little light with (in my case) matching ano that is flawless. The build is consistent with the D10 and every single unfortunate observation that people pointed out is true. No clip, no shortcuts, no additional lumens and weaker tailstanding.
Even so, it works very well. The ramping is predictable and the runtime is excellent. The tint is slightly warmer than most of my XP-G based lights. The beam pattern is quite similar to my big TK45 (it's floody). Outdoors it lights up an unlit trail on medium easily and can light up a whole campsite on high.
The piston is smooth and (so far) reliable (remember I've had this a few hours). It may be too bad that Nitecore couldn't have been more inspired in their engineering but this is far from an undesirable light. Mine will definitely not be on the marketplace. It's going to go camping soon.
I do a test for my defective D10 Q5 1st run and D11
I took out piston spring and put it in on D11 piston and D10 Q5 this is the result:
1.) D10
The light was work fine, i could choose brightness level both holding the piston and using short cut. But it required a lot of pressure on the piston.
2.) D11
Light could be well function too like the D10 but it required more pressure than the D10 Q5. And i found this is really impractical.
Conclusion: my D11 piston spring is defective.
Maybe it is a good idea for folks here who want to get D11 to ask the dealer, before they shipped the D11 for testing the light using 14500 and Nimh and make sure the light fully function using both batteries.
I took out piston spring and put it in on D11 piston and D10 Q5 this is the result:
1.) D10
The light was work fine, i could choose brightness level both holding the piston and using short cut. But it required a lot of pressure on the piston.
2.) D11
Light could be well function too like the D10 but it required more pressure than the D10 Q5. And i found this is really impractical.
Conclusion: my D11 piston spring is defective.
Maybe it is a good idea for folks here who want to get D11 to ask the dealer, before they shipped the D11 for testing the light using 14500 and Nimh and make sure the light fully function using both batteries.
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Henk_Lu
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I got my D11 this evening...
Well, it's not so horrible as described already, but not good either. The beam is more or less flawless, but I miss some punch. As it's normal, my D10 XP-E look brighter and the XR-E even brighter. I know it's the LUX, but I aks myself currently which beam I preffer, I guess it's the one of the XP-E.
The emitter is horribly off-center, but it doesn't seem to affect the beam dramatically. Piston action is good, but screwing the light together feels a little weird, like if teh threads didn't meet 100%. Works though.
No, it can't keep up with the D10, not at all. Ramping is fine, but I miss the sortcuts and what's more, if I don't think about it, I'll get one of the disco modes, which I hate so much... :thumbsdow
After the IFE1, this is the second disappointment from Nitecore. Do I need a third one? :candle:
Well, it's not so horrible as described already, but not good either. The beam is more or less flawless, but I miss some punch. As it's normal, my D10 XP-E look brighter and the XR-E even brighter. I know it's the LUX, but I aks myself currently which beam I preffer, I guess it's the one of the XP-E.
The emitter is horribly off-center, but it doesn't seem to affect the beam dramatically. Piston action is good, but screwing the light together feels a little weird, like if teh threads didn't meet 100%. Works though.
No, it can't keep up with the D10, not at all. Ramping is fine, but I miss the sortcuts and what's more, if I don't think about it, I'll get one of the disco modes, which I hate so much... :thumbsdow
After the IFE1, this is the second disappointment from Nitecore. Do I need a third one? :candle:
Henk, this is strange. The D11 has a black plastic centering disc around the LED - you can just about make it out in the photo below, surrounding the XP-G.
Getting into the head is a little bit harder than a D10 but the same principle. You may find yours has slipped off and just needs putting back.
just received the D11 yesterday, and found out the same problem as njet212. Cant turn off with AW14500
Is there any other owners that have the same problem, we might have the defect production lot from the factory as we are actually both in the same region of the world
Is there any other owners that have the same problem, we might have the defect production lot from the factory as we are actually both in the same region of the world
jaws revenge
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It's get warm really fast when you running 14500 on hi mode.
As for brightness selection and hidden mode access, have you compared between 14500 and Nimh/alkaline?
I found using alkaline /Nimh it is much easier to access the hidden mode as well choosing brightness level. On 14500, it's require more pressure on the piston.
Henk_Lu
Flashlight Enthusiast
I'll open it this evening. Indeed, I didn't have a closer look in the reflector, it looked to me the emitter was just sitting around there... in the corner!
The brass ring looks different, I guess it could be more difficult to remove than the one of a D10, but I should have enough experience with these things by now...
Thanks for teh advice! :wave:
Kilovolt
Flashlight Enthusiast
njet212: I have six AW 14500 cells out of which only two work in my D11 while the others are too long. IMO the problem lays with the batteries not with the flashlight. Some of them are longer than the others.
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Henk_Lu
Flashlight Enthusiast
I can try a 14500, no problem, but I use all my D10 on AA because the difference in brightness isn't really noticeable on those ones. It would be interesting to find out about the D11 indeed!
In most D10 you have to cut the spring to be able to run an AW 14500 without problems, as they are slightly longer. AA also work with cut springs, the piston just needs less pressure.
gunga
Flashaholic
I usually end up cutting the spring and filing the piston down on all my D10s, softens up the feel and increases piston travel.
