Niteye MS Series (mock-up test samples) Review

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Re: Niteye MS Series (MSC10, MSA10, MSC20, MSA20) Review

Thank You for your answer :thumbsup:

It would have been useful to have the firefly mode on this light.

Thanks again ;)

Thanks hakyru! :)

I agree with everything you said. The firefly mode is quite a useful output, but there is no firefly on MS series production version. :shrug:
It seems the manufacturer initially didn't plan to make firefly mode available to the lights.

As you mentioned above, MSC10 works about 2~3 seconds when the control ring is at Off position (i.e., XM-L U2 emittet on the head & battery indicator on the tailcap work just few seconds when you turn the light off by using the control ring). So "Firefly" should be modified to "Off" in UI of my above review.
 

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Thanks hakyru! :)

I agree with everything you said. The firefly mode is quite a useful output, but there is no firefly on MS series production version. :shrug:
It seems the manufacturer initially didn't plan to make firefly mode available to the lights.

As you mentioned above, MSC10 works about 2~3 seconds when the control ring is at Off position (i.e., XM-L U2 emittet on the head & battery indicator on the tailcap work just few seconds when you turn the light off by using the control ring). So "Firefly" should be modified to "Off" in UI of my above review.

I'm confused candle lamp...in the last picture in your review, you show the head & emitter captioned: "It doesn't seem like a firefly mode, looks like very low to my eye".

Yet in post #21 you seem to be refering the the emitter/led that shows battery status as the firefly mode? Are you stating that the battery status light goes off after turning the light off...or do you mean there is no true sub-lumen low capable at the head eg (moonlight mode)?...or both?

In post #8 you replied that the indicator light remained on after the light is turned off (and could be used as a locator beacon), but as I now understand it, the production version does not? Is this correct?
 

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Re: Niteye MS Series (MSC10, MSA10, MSC20, MSA20) Review

It doesn't seem like a firefly mode, looks like very low to my eye".
It means a firefly mode is not a real firefly but lower low mode to me in brightness.

Yet in post #21 you seem to be refering the the emitter/led that shows battery status as the firefly mode? Are you stating that the battery status light goes off after turning the light off...or do you mean there is no true sub-lumen low capable at the head eg (moonlight mode)?...or both?

When turning the light off, LED on the head & battery indicator on the tailcap are turned on at the same time, but go off in 2 seconds at the same time.
(There is very low lumen at the head for 2 seconds only. Also battery indicator has very low brightenss at the tailcap for 2 seconds.)

In post #8 you replied that the indicator light remained on after the light is turned off (and could be used as a locator beacon), but as I now understand it, the production version does not? Is this correct?

Yes, that's correct. The indicator light doesn't remian on the production version. (It does remain for 2 seconds.)
 

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Re: Niteye MS Series (MSC10, MSA10, MSC20, MSA20) Review

It means a firefly mode is not a real firefly but lower low mode to me in brightness.



When turning the light off, LED on the head & battery indicator on the tailcap are turned on at the same time, but go off in 2 seconds at the same time.
(There is very low lumen at the head for 2 seconds only. Also battery indicator has very low brightenss at the tailcap for 2 seconds.)



Yes, that's correct. The indicator light doesn't remian on the production version. (It does remain for 2 seconds.)

Thanks.
 

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Re: Niteye MS Series (MSC10, MSA10, MSC20, MSA20) Review

Goinggear

Thanks for the heads-up Glenn7...I too noticed they were now @ GG.

My interest has faded however since I've discovered that the red/green battery status indicator on the PD switch goes out (wanted to use as a locater beacon), and the 1XAA MSC10's max output dropped 100 lumens in the production lights, contrary to what was posted in the reviewed (pre-production/mock-up) tested lights.
 

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Re: Niteye MS Series (MSC10, MSA10, MSC20, MSA20) Review

Yes it would have been good to have lights in the rear for a locator but that's what trits are for no battery drain :thumbsup:
I like the magnetic ring on the end as in the past any magnetic ring lights I've had are enjoying to have to click tailcap button to turn on (over hand or two handed) then change hand position to control the output and take 10% cpf discount off makes it a good deal.
 
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Re: Niteye MS Series (MSC10, MSA10, MSC20, MSA20) Review

I would like to see two presets and the strobe ditched.

Candle lamp,

Great review - Thank you!

+1 on ditching the strobe and adding another preset mode. I don't like nay-saying lights that weren't made for me, but this one was so close to what I was looking for I wanted to throw my thoughts out there.

From the Thrunite scorpion I've really come to love control rings on the tail - hold it with one hand and flip the ring with your thumb for some of the fastest, simplest and POTENTIALLY logical /intuitive mode changes.

However like the Thrunite this seems to place the strobe in an illogical place where it can easily be accidentally stumbled upon like a land mine while trying to keep your night vision.

With control ring lights like the TN31 and scorpion it really is hard to NOT accidentally hit the strobe mode while carefully turning on the light in the dark and TRYING/HOPING you are in the lowest mode.

Firefly/Low Preset/Mid Preset/Turbo seems so logical compared to Firefly/"Obnoxious useless strobe"/Low/Turbo...
 

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Re: Niteye MS Series (MSC10, MSA10, MSC20, MSA20) Review

With control ring lights like the TN31 and scorpion it really is hard to NOT accidentally hit the strobe mode while carefully turning on the light in the dark and TRYING/HOPING you are in the lowest mode.

Firefly/Low Preset/Mid Preset/Turbo seems so logical compared to Firefly/"Obnoxious useless strobe"/Low/Turbo...

Strobe may have an advantage for those who need it. Personally, I rarely use that mode.

I think the light can hit the unwanted strobe mode as you said, because all modes are controlled by the control ring on the production version.
The light has no firefly mode any longer on the shipping version. i.e., there are [Strobe] - [ Off ] - [Preset] - [High], arranged clockwise.
The PD switch is now a secondary switch for turning off Strobe or Preset or High. It's still used for preset ramping up-down.

Note that the production version's preset output is low to high, but the "preset high" is not the same brightness as [High]. See below.

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So the preset output is useful to those who need the lower output than High mode.
 
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Re: Niteye MS Series (MSC10, MSA10, MSC20, MSA20) Review

thats a shame that the indicator light is not alwayws on, i would have bought it since i dont buy trit, dont trust them and they are also on the dimmer side. When you have a power out then a trit wont help you much, only if you stay right in front of it, a blinking LED is much better visible to locate the flashlight in the dark like the nitecore explorer series.
 

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Re: Niteye MS Series (MSC10, MSA10, MSC20, MSA20) Review

thats a shame that the indicator light is not alwayws on, i would have bought it since i dont buy trit, dont trust them and they are also on the dimmer side. When you have a power out then a trit wont help you much, only if you stay right in front of it, a blinking LED is much better visible to locate the flashlight in the dark like the nitecore explorer series.

Agreed! Let's hope they release the next version has the indicator is always on or blink.
 

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I didn't understand the indicator function in total...

Please correct me if i am wrong:
- no indication: control ring and also button are off
- indication: control ring off and button on
- no indication: control ring and also button are on

Is this correct?
 

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I didn't understand the indicator function in total...

Please correct me if i am wrong:
- no indication: control ring and also button are off
- indication: control ring off and button on
- no indication: control ring and also button are on

Is this correct?

The indicator shows constant green for about 9~10 seconds and will be turned off, only when the control ring is switched to "Off" position from "the other postions (i.e., Strobe or user defined mode or High)".

Welcome to CPF! New-XMLight. :welcome: :party:
 

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Thank's a lot.

Today i received my MSC20 and the 18650 Enerpower Black 2600mAh.

:eek: The batteries are too fat. I had to stuff it into the casing...

Then i removed the plastic sticker and this helped. Now it could be pushed out back by shaking.
I will post somes pictures here or in an own thread later on.

greetz
 
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