OMG Lumens EDC Project

[Morelite]

Please add me to the list.

 

[HanzoTheFlashlight]

Sadly I will not be releasing any more info on the light itself as there are already people copying my ideas. I realize not releasing info is not good for keeping people excited for the project but I have every confidence that once the final light is revealed the interest will be there. Right now I am buying parts and testing them for fit and feel. I am also attempting to buy a CNC machine to keep the production in house. Things are moving along. My goal with this light is for it to be the best EDC flashlight ever made, period. This is not something that happens overnight. I have been working on this project since May constantly tweaking and refining the design. Although the design, layout, and size are "frozen" the details such as switch gear are being worked on. The thousands of hours of R+D will be evident in the final project.:thumbsup:

Unfortunate, but totally understandable. OMG Lumens has proven itself to be highly professional and well represented at CPF.

Given the high quality of workmanship keep me on the list!!! 😎:twothumbs
That was graciously started, thanks!

 

[blasterman]

Sadly I will not be releasing any more info on the light itself as there are already people copying my ideas

Grandstanding aren't we a bit? As for 'copying', you're doing a pretty good job simply refining what the Chinese are making and selling on DX for $12.95. Sorry, but I'm simply 'keeping it real'. Working with manufacturing engineers all day long who are competing with Asian counterparts who are just as good with CNC but making 1/100 the salary forces you to innovate.

If this is indeed something 'innovative' and would be carried by a millionaire then:

- Why mess with a mechanical switch at all and use something like a orientation/touch sensor as in a Nintendo Wii or iPhone. As the light is tilted upwards it get's brighter/activated, etc. Mechanical switches of any sort are old tech.

- Heat can be managed by using a small diameter fan in the housing - there is no law that says LEDs must be cooled entirely by passive means while computer processor heat sinks get to use fans.

- Rather than opt for a glorified 'metal tube with an LED and reflector stuck on the front', which this basically is, try something really radical such as building the entire body made of thin metal plates, or rods/pins, such as high tech heat sinks do. This will drastically increase the thermal dissipation area and allow for much higher drive currents.

- LEDs do not have to be constantly on, but can be 'strobed' at a very high rate which reduces energy use at the expense of minimal lumen loss. If the goal is to produce the highest lumen output in the smallest package, then this might be an idea to be built in the circuit.

- The reflector should be something exotic, such as 100% silver coated glass, or better yet - a dichroic type reflector that changes color as you view the light from different angles - such as headlamps on exotic sports cars. This alone would give the light a 'look' that none other have.

 

[saabluster]

Since you limit your productions, I'd like to be on the list. However, I would most likely hold off pulling the $$ trigger until there was a review posted. I'd even be willing to review and/or beta test it for you. I've done several here already.

Thank you for your kind offer. I have already chosen a few well respected members to beta test the light though.😉

 

[saabluster]

Grandstanding aren't we a bit?

I don't know what you are referring to me as grandstanding for. If you are talking about what you quoted from my post then I really don't understand how telling people I will be refraining from releasing more info is grandstanding(To perform ostentatiously so as to impress an audience). How are people impressed by lack of information? :thinking: Please consider things from my perspective. I have felt pressure to release more and more info on just what the Black Tie is. I'm not blaming anyone here for wanting to know more as I would be the same way. However I don't think that is a prudent thing for me to do anymore at this time. There does seem to be a lot of respect on these forums from one modder/custom flashlight maker to another in not copying one another's designs or ideas. I have recently come to question that as being true across the board. I do not want to get into this further so lets both drop it from here on out. It was merely presented as a reason for why I will not be saying anything else about the light until I am ready to release it. It is common business practice to keep products under wraps until a later date.

As for 'copying', you're doing a pretty good job simply refining what the Chinese are making and selling on DX for $12.95.

I assume you are talking about the DEFT? Feel free to ask anyone who currently owns one to give you their opinion as to the validity of that. My work speaks for itself.

If this is indeed something 'innovative' and would be carried by a millionaire then:

- Why mess with a mechanical switch at all and use something like a orientation/touch sensor as in a Nintendo Wii or iPhone. As the light is tilted upwards it get's brighter/activated, etc. Mechanical switches of any sort are old tech.

- Heat can be managed by using a small diameter fan in the housing - there is no law that says LEDs must be cooled entirely by passive means while computer processor heat sinks get to use fans.

- Rather than opt for a glorified 'metal tube with an LED and reflector stuck on the front', which this basically is, try something really radical such as building the entire body made of thin metal plates, or rods/pins, such as high tech heat sinks do. This will drastically increase the thermal dissipation area and allow for much higher drive currents.

- LEDs do not have to be constantly on, but can be 'strobed' at a very high rate which reduces energy use at the expense of minimal lumen loss. If the goal is to produce the highest lumen output in the smallest package, then this might be an idea to be built in the circuit.

- The reflector should be something exotic, such as 100% silver coated glass, or better yet - a dichroic type reflector that changes color as you view the light from different angles - such as headlamps on exotic sports cars. This alone would give the light a 'look' that none other have.

If you want a light with all that than you are welcome to make it. The Black Tie most certainly is innovative but I do not believe in technology for technologies sake. Good design is more than fancy technology. It is in how easy to use and effective the device is. It is the ability to make a device with the least amount of "compromise". And it is in the ability to combine art with the function that makes truly good design. It is on these fronts the Black Tie will excel. -Michael

 

[Glenn7]

OK withdrawn

 

[yankeefist]

saabluster

thanks for reply - I understand completely

your answers to blasterman are very confidence inspiring - fyi if the Black Tie had any of the "features" he recomended, I for one would not be interested

can't wait for the ultimate edc light

 

[d1dd1]

saabluster

thanks for reply - I understand completely

your answers to blasterman are very confidence inspiring - fyi if the Black Tie had any of the "features" he recomended, I for one would not be interested

can't wait for the ultimate edc light

+1

 

[hamheart]

I don't know what you are referring to me as grandstanding for. If you are talking about what you quoted from my post then I really don't understand how telling people I will be refraining from releasing more info is grandstanding(To perform ostentatiously so as to impress an audience). How are people impressed by lack of information? :thinking: Please consider things from my perspective. I have felt pressure to release more and more info on just what the Black Tie is. I'm not blaming anyone here for wanting to know more as I would be the same way. However I don't think that is a prudent thing for me to do anymore at this time. There does seem to be a lot of respect on these forums from one modder/custom flashlight maker to another in not copying one another's designs or ideas. I have recently come to question that as being true across the board. I do not want to get into this further so lets both drop it from here on out. It was merely presented as a reason for why I will not be saying anything else about the light until I am ready to release it. It is common business practice to keep products under wraps until a later date.





I assume you are talking about the DEFT? Feel free to ask anyone who currently owns one to give you their opinion as to the validity of that. My work speaks for itself.




If you want a light with all that than you are welcome to make it. The Black Tie most certainly is innovative but I do not believe in technology for technologies sake. Good design is more than fancy technology. It is in how easy to use and effective the device is. It is the ability to make a device with the least amount of "compromise". And it is in the ability to combine art with the function that makes truly good design. It is on these fronts the Black Tie will excel. -Michael

+1

 

[saabluster]

Thanks everyone for your words of support. Lets keep it to that and not blast blasterman. I don't want to impute wrong motives on his part and will just chalk it up to the fact that he really doesn't understand what is going on here or with the DEFT and the immense amount of time and effort that goes into it. No hard feelings here blasterman.:thumbsup:

 

[LuxLuthor]

Rock On !

 

[BMF]

Since you limit your productions, I'd like to be on the list. However, I would most likely hold off pulling the $$ trigger until there was a review posted. I'd even be willing to review and/or beta test it for you. I've done several here already.

Thank you for your kind offer. I have already chosen a few well respected members to beta test the light though.😉

What's going on here: am I not the one chosen to test the beta????? I'm not a well respected member???

J/k I'm just a user. If you chose me to test your beta The Black Tie the review would be like this: WOW! IT'S SO BRIGHT! GET ON THE LIST PEOPLE!



And:









Can you release more infos about The Black Tie?:drunk::whoopin:

 

[karlthev]

Stay on track saabluster, we're behind you.


Karl

 

[paulsl]

I need one - count me in too please! Intense!

 

[Psychomodo]

Please add me to the list of interested parties :twothumbs

 

[orcinus]

I know i shouldn't, but... I just can't help myself.

- Why mess with a mechanical switch at all and use something like a orientation/touch sensor as in a Nintendo Wii or iPhone. As the light is tilted upwards it get's brighter/activated, etc. Mechanical switches of any sort are old tech.

Oh... kay... And you would keep it on while lighting your way down the stairs, for example, how, exactly? However, let's pretend your idea really IS useful or practical in everyday use. It was already implemented in a few cheap to mid-range gimmicky "shake to light up" lights. Nothing new there.

- Heat can be managed by using a small diameter fan in the housing - there is no law that says LEDs must be cooled entirely by passive means while computer processor heat sinks get to use fans.

Yes, BRILLIANT! I wonder how no one ever thought of that.
Oh wait, maybe because ITS BLOODY ENERGY INEFFICIENT!
Not to mention impractical, noisy, susceptible to vibration and shock, prone to mechanical failures, clunky, big and a dozen other things.

- Rather than opt for a glorified 'metal tube with an LED and reflector stuck on the front', which this basically is, try something really radical such as building the entire body made of thin metal plates, or rods/pins, such as high tech heat sinks do. This will drastically increase the thermal dissipation area and allow for much higher drive currents.

Yes, that would be really comfortable to carry. And would do a pocket wonders. You could also use it scrub the dead skin off your feet every once in a while. Oh, BTW, ever seen a flashlight with a finned head?

- LEDs do not have to be constantly on, but can be 'strobed' at a very high rate which reduces energy use at the expense of minimal lumen loss. If the goal is to produce the highest lumen output in the smallest package, then this might be an idea to be built in the circuit.

Gee. I wonder what PWM is, then. And how exactly does pulsing "reduce the energy use at the expense of minimal lumen loss"? Simply brilliant ideas there. You should sell these.

- The reflector should be something exotic, such as 100% silver coated glass, or better yet - a dichroic type reflector that changes color as you view the light from different angles - such as headlamps on exotic sports cars. This alone would give the light a 'look' that none other have.

Again, hate to break your bubble, but... Flashlight reflectors... kinda... do have coatings that do that. To improve the uniformity of the tint throught the beam. And other things. Yeah, i know, i know, they should put it to better use and turn it into pointless, impractical, blingy c##p worthy of every gheto car in the 'hood. That would make so much more sense.

Gawd! :shakehead

 

[Guy's Dropper]

- The reflector should be something exotic, such as 100% silver coated glass, or better yet - a dichroic type reflector that changes color as you view the light from different angles - such as headlamps on exotic sports cars. This alone would give the light a 'look' that none other have.

Most of those were either unrealistic or bad ideas, but it might be interesting to see a flashlight with a dichrotic filter.

 

[naked2]

You could also use it scrub the dead skin off your feet every once in a while.

Maybe we could add an electric toothbrush attachment as an option!

 

[saabluster]

I know i shouldn't, but... I just can't help myself.

I considered just such a post myself but decided against it. First I figured it was obvious to most normal people that the suggestions were...shall we say, a bit out there. And second I did not want to escalate the dialog and have this thread trashed with unnecessary and way off topic posts. Besides, he may have just been having a bad day.:shrug:

 

[csshih]

okie.. back to the light.

that is one beauty.
darn.
empty.
student.
wallet. because of Christmas.
I better be getting stuff in return XD