Outdoor thrower?

element626

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Hi, I'm looking for a thrower for mainly outdoors use, such as night hiking and camping. I already have a cheap LED flood light to cover closer/general purpose use, but I'd like to have this light when that need real light. I also have a 3D Mag-lite which this light is intended to replace due to it's heavy weight and low output.

1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

____I would like to purchase the light from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.
_X__I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! 🙂

____Less than $25.
_X__Less than $50.
____Less than $100.
____Less than $150.
____Less than $300.
____I have no limit.
_X__I’m flexible, tell me what you gotJ.
____Other, please specify ________

Typical broke college student here. $50 is about okay for me, but I understand if the light I'm asking for should cost more.


3) Format:

_X__I want a flashlight.
____I want a headlamp.
____I want a lantern.
____I want a dive light.
____I want a portable spotlight.


4) Flashlight-specific format/size:

____Keychain size.
____Every day carry small (2-4 inches).
_X__Every day carry medium (4-7 inches).
____Holster carry.
____Big enough to need its own travel caseJ.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.
____N/A


5) Emitter/Light source:

_X__LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
____I don't know.


6) Manufacturer:

_X__I want to buy a light from a traditional mass producing manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
_X__I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a “host” or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a “drop-in” emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this path can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs, and can often be easily upgradeable as technology improves.

*I'm an engineering student, so I'm comfortable with building my own.

7) What battery type do you want to use?*

_X__I intend to use alkaline batteries (AAA, AA, C, D) (disclaimer, while it does not preclude all choices, these are not recommended for many of today’s most powerful lights)
____I intend to use rechargeable nickel chemistry (NiCad, NiMH, NiZn)
____I intend to use lithium primary batteries (CR123, CR2, Energizer Advanced/Ultimate Lithium AA/AAA)
_X__I intend to use rechargeable lithium (li-ion) chemistry. Feel free to specify a size if you know which size you want (14500, RCR123/16340, 17500, 17670, 18650, etc.)
____I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery. (Note: these choices may be very limited unless you are looking at spotlights)

*I know for the most part, Li-On's are the only batteries that provide enough voltage for high powered lights, and I intend to use those as the primary source of power. But I've been stuck in a lot of situations where alkaline is the only battery available, so I'd like a light that is at least functional on alkalines, even if it isn't as bright.

8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).

____I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (0-10 lumens).
_X__I want to walk around an unlit rural area (50-150 lumens).
_X__I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).

____I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I want ridiculous amounts of lumens (800+ lumens).

*It's meant to be used as a outdoor camping/hiking light.


9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.

____Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
____Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
_X__5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
_X__30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
_X__50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)

____150+ yards (I want maximum throw possible)


10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
_X__30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
____90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
____3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).


11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase “you get what you pay for” is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A “night-stand” light).
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
_X__Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
____Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
____I don't care.
____I don’t know.


12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):

____I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today’s high end lights).
_X__I don't care. (As long as it's not a twisty)
____I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
_X__I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
_X__I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)

____I want a programmable light.
____I want a selector ring.
____I want a strobe mode. (Blinks to show location.)
____I want SOS mode.
____I want a beacon mode.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.

Multiple levels is neater, but I can make do with a low/high setting.

14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
____Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today’s flashlights).
____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
____I don’t care.
_X__I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________.

​I don't have a preference to any specific material, as long as it fits the "durability" part

15) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____“Hybrid” light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
____Pocket/belt clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments

I know I'm new to this forum, so I'll appreciate any help or advice.
 
I'll bump this 😉
Also interested in outdoor flashlight .. Subbed.
 
I'll bump this 😉
Also interested in outdoor flashlight .. Subbed.
This light might be overkill because of its brightness, but check out the Romisen RC-T601 II XM-L U2 2-Mode LED Flashlight (750+ Lumens). You can see it at Shining Beam website. Sells for $28.75; for the money, it's an excellent thrower!
 
Look at Malkoff devices. Would recommend the Wildcat (tho' sadly much more than your given price range, even at current discount), but is otherwise perfect and bulletproof.

DavidS
 
You say you want a thrower....but only for ~ 150 yards?

There's floody lights that throw further than that.

😀

I'm thinking that with your $50 budget, the Xtar TZ20 Platoon might be a great choice.

Its got ~820 Lumen output, it throws well (It can also used a part of a weapon light system for example), has multiple modes, and can run on a single 18650.

With the XML U2 LED, it throws a nice floody beam further than you said you needed, so you'd simply see even more than you'd hoped.

😀
 
I'd get a SolarForce L2P (or T, M, plain) and have one of the resident specialists (Nailbender, vinhnguyen54) build a module with the emitter, voltage, and modes you want. I'm partial to the Nichia 219 for outdoor use, but for your purposes a neutral or warm (or even cool if you prefer) XP-G should do just fine. XM-L offers more lumens but less throw in a given reflector.
 
Wow, I wasn't expecting 800+ lumens for my budget :drool:

I noticed every light recommended seems to be running 18650's. After some research I think I'd like to find a light to run primarily on 14500's and, as a fall back/emergency, regular alkaline AA's. I don't know if 18650's are preferred over 14500's though. Sorry for making everyone run around again, I'm still learning.
 
It sounds too me like you really need a general use light. I would consider something like the Klarus P2A. It runs on two AA cells and has enogh throw for your needs. There are similar models from Jetbeam and Fenix. Overall it sounds like a 2X AA light might just fit your needs
 
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