Overdrive Vehicle Headlights?

Bucket

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Hi all. Newbie here. I've been reading this forum for a while and was wondering if anyone has ever made a step up for their vehicle's headlights. I was think of overdriving by perhaps 15% or so.

Next question is how much would that degrade their longevity?

Buck
 
A better mod would be (If they're available for your car) to add Euro spec lenses and bulbs. What kind of car is it?
 
The silvania silverstars are a good upgrade. Nice white light (compared to halogens) and are considerably cheaper than the piaa's. I modified some 9005 to fit in my 9006 sockets. They are about 10 watts difference in power consumption but go from 1000 to 1700 lumens /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinser2.gif and they are DOT approved. http://www.silvania.com/auto/silverstar.htm
 
you want better lighting? good. now, stop buying other stuff for a while, since the REAL good stuff (not the wannabe) is costly. euro specs lamps/assemblies, relays, lamps, etc. etc. btw, they are overdriven already; you might notice that car systems are 12v, but a running car puts out 13.8 (usually 14.5 at the alternator).

http://lighting.mbz.org/
 
I use Hella Optilux bulbs. The 80/100 brighten things up nicely over the stock 55/60. Nice and white, no ricey blueness or purpleness. Too bad I burned out both headlamp connectors with the overvoltage. A quick trip to Advance Autoparts, a pair of aftermarket plugs, cut, splice and good good again.

Wilkey
 
stock wattage lamps can also be had in plus 30 and plus 50 version (that much % more light output measured onthe road, not at lamp) from slightly altered gas fills, filament shape and diameter.
 
Thanks for the replys.

I got the silvania silverstars. They are better than the old stockers, but I still want more. I'm driving a Mazda B4000 pickup, so the euro lights are probably out.

I guess I would still like to know how, or if it is possible to overdrive what I have.
 
what kind of lamps does it have? look on the front of the headlamp, it will say 900x and HBx. I'm guessing it has one capsule that does both high and low. If it says HB4, consider yourself lucky, +50 are available. if your car has quadlamp (two outboard for low, two inboard for high) then again you have better options than the silverstars.
 
I don't rember the brand name, but my wrx got an upgrade from 55/65watt to 85/110 and xenon "i think" That made my lights much brighter. I also upped the fog lights from 55 to 100. Then pointed the headlights up just a little. These mods fixed all my light problems! doubled the output almost!
Anyway, try upping the wattage and color temp for a cheap fix. If you have the money? Espec baby! or HID /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
 
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Bucket said:
Thanks for the replys.

I got the silvania silverstars. They are better than the old stockers, but I still want more. I'm driving a Mazda B4000 pickup, so the euro lights are probably out.

I guess I would still like to know how, or if it is possible to overdrive what I have.

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Possible: Yes. Like LEDs, incandescents can be overdriven.

Practical: No. I don't remember the formula, but bulb life is inversely proportional to the light voltage, with a NASTY exponential function. Something like 1/x^5 or something like that. (Example, a 15% overdrive of an incan is likely to halve the bulb life or worse. Especially if you don't have some sort of inrush current limiting, which cars usually don't have.) It's not like LEDs where you can just add more heatsinking.
 
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stephenanderson2 said:
I don't rember the brand name, but my wrx got an upgrade from 55/65watt to 85/110 and xenon "i think" That made my lights much brighter. I also upped the fog lights from 55 to 100. Then pointed the headlights up just a little. These mods fixed all my light problems! doubled the output almost!
Anyway, try upping the wattage and color temp for a cheap fix. If you have the money? Espec baby! or HID /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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Yeah, and why don't you just blind oncoming drivers while you're at it? Any light that is over 55w for low beams is illegal. Anything higher is for high beams only. 80-100w bulbs are definitely illegal and irritating. Unless your beam patern is perfect and allows hardly any stray beams outside the "hotspot" (which is impossible with incondescent filiments), you might be able to get away with high wattage bulbs without pissing people off. Pre 2001 Honda Civics are some of the worst I've seen. Even when properly aimed, they have quite a bit of light straying outside of their main beam. Then, if you aim your headlights up even a little, you're bound to blind many drivers, especially while going over a slight crest on the road. Are stock headlights THAT bad to make it worth while to blind other drivers on the road? I think my headlights are just fine. The only thing I'd ever think about changing are the highbeams.
 
regarding the Sylvania Silverstars: they have a color of 4000K, vs the typical 3200K of a standard halogen bulb. My interpretation of this is that they are running the bulb hotter, which usually means a shorter lifetime. Anyone have any idea how its life compares to a standard bulb? The Sylvania web site doesn't mention this parameter.

thanks,
Steve K.
 
I use the silvainia silverstars and I've had 3 sets in my car since last december. My first set lasted 2 months but my headlights flashed twice when unlocking my door with keyless entry. Then flashed another two times to unlock the rest of the doors. All the constant flashing probably caused my lights to burn out quicker. Then, my second set lasted ~4 months. About half way through that time, I reprogrammed my keyless entry system to quit flashing the headlights. I won't get a realistic idea until these latest silverstars burn out. My headlights have no leaks, no condensation, and I do not touch the bulbs. The first time the lights went out, both burned out in the same day.
 
Steve, the color temp is acheived by filtration. they all run the same temp (give or take) but the silverstars have a blue coating on the lamp capsule to subtract the longer wavelenghts (yellows) to give the light a "whiter" appearance. it also cuts down the amount of light.

simple example: you car probably has that blue strip at the top of the windshield. drive towards those sodium yellow streetlights. then look at it thru that blue strip. voila, it is now WHITE but lots dimmer.
 
My headlights are more toward white than blue. I didn't raise the color temp that much, somethingg like 3750 I think.
And Bart, my stock headlights sucked!!! The car was made for europe light laws and were very dim and pointed extremely low. I'm not saying that I don't blind the occasional car when my foglights are on /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif, but when they are off, I have had no complaints. I got the bulbs at local auto zone, don't know if they are legal, but they did not say "for off road use only" like my fog lights did
 
Well I guess I'll live with what I've got AND keep the stocker bulbs with me for when the Silverstars blow.

Thanks for the info.
 
I have a question that I hope doesn't drive everyone nuts. But I gotta know.

Is it legal to overdrive headlights? I guess it would depend on where you're driving. It seems that local jurisdictions would impose some limits on how many lumens you can throw out the front of a vehicle operating on public streets.

Paul

E D I T: Whoops. I now see that B@rt has answered this, at least in part.
 
in the US, DOT regulations govern this, and in Europe, the ECE. they control luminous flux, beam pattern and min/max requirements are certain distances, what is required in terms of equipment, what is permissible, and what is not.
 
Ok guys,

I was trying to stay out of this one (its hard to dispel preconceptions) but what some of you have been suggesting is inadvisable to say the least. Any modification to the headlights and their circuitry should not be approached with a cavalier attitude. These are safety devices and therefore effects not only your own safety, but the safety of everyone else in your vehicle's vicinity! Pushing more voltage and current through the circuitry will not only shorten the life of the bulbs but (in most systems) also the switch. If you blow a bulb, you have another to fall back on. If you burn out the switch, you will lose both headlights!! Not the thing you want to do on a dark, winding road! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif

This is not to say that this is undoable. On the contrary, but one has to realize the limitations. Number one, the wiring and switching is typically designed around a 10A load for low beams and another 10A load for high beams (you can throw in a 10% fudge factor, the engineers like to take in considerations such as corroded connectors). The work-around for this is to relay the circuits. With this approach, the main current to the lights is drawn directly off of the battery (or the main engine compartment fuse block), through the secondary side of a relay. The wiring to the headlights is replace with wire 2-4 AWG larger than stock (depending on the stock wiring size and the wattage rating of the desired bulbs) and the headlight connectors are either modified or replaced with connectors that can accept the larger gauge wiring. Always use wiring with a high strand count and high temperature insulation (engine compartments are hostile environments and this is not an area for cost cutting). Careful routing is advised and also remember to fuse both of the new circuits. The relays are controlled by the stock headlight circuitry, wired to the primary side of the relays. On domestic and most imports, this will require one relay for low beams and one relay for high beams. Cars that are wired for DIN specifications (German) will require 2 relays for each beam, as the individual headlights are on separate circuits (good ol' German redundancy /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ). It is highly advisable to obtain the appropriate wiring schematics for the vehicle, as I'm only dealing with generalizations here. To this I would like to add, if for some reason one feels that one cannot do this job with a high degree of professionalism, then leave this job to professionals.

Allow me to close with thoughts on brightness and aim. Remember, you share the road with others and blinding oncoming traffic is not only annoying, but hazardous. Use a reasonable wattage for your low beams, close to the stock wattage. As to aim, a 3" drop of the projected beam centers at 30 feet (for the low beams) is acceptable in most states (check with your local DMV). The lateral aim is generally straight ahead or skewed slightly to the right (once again, check with you local DMV). In the end, if you still find that your headlight beams are less than desirable (as is the case with most DOT approved headlights), consider auxiliary lighting. 'Nuff said.

Dan
ASE Master Mechanic 1982-2000

P.S. I should also note, being as most headlights now days are plastic and are quite capable of melting, should one install too high of a wattage bulb. Proceed cautiously. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
 

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