P60 dropin MC E/SSC P7 at 2.4A. DIY. Beamshots!

StefanFS

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This is intended for my DBS, that light has a massive reflector and head for good thermal management. That's the reason I can use 2.4A to the MC E emitter in such a small light. In smaller lights I recommend stopping at around 2A. I used an MC E M-bin WC tint that I reflowed to a 15 mm XR E board. I got the emitter from amilite.co.kr, the drivers and the empty brass pill are from kaidomain/DX.


Preparing the multimode driver with a spring on it's underside.
Sanding down the simple 1.4A driver so it will fit in the pill.
Drilling two holes for wires with a "dremeltype" diamond cone tool bit. One at Q4 for positive to led and one at Q2 for neg. to led. As small as possible.

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Preparing th multimode driver. 26 gauge teflon wire. The led neg. wire (top pic left) is stripped a bit for soldering it to the next board that will sit on top of it. Wire goes through the hole at Q2. Solid copper wire (top pic middle) through the hole in the middle on the 1.4A board. Led positive (top pic right) goes through hole at Q4 on upper board.

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Led neg. soldered to neg. pad on the top board at Q2. Middle copper wire used to bridge the missing diodes on top board. Led positive just passes through th hole. A solid copper wire used for ground between the boards at the edge on left.

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The reflowed MC E. It's a parallell connection. I removed a faulty XR E from a 15 mm board and used the board for this mod. I added just a little bit of soldering paste.

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Neg. battery contact by soldering the drivers to the brass pill.

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It's a bit hard to center the MC E before the AA epoxy set, you need to be quick about it. Really good throw with the smooth reflector + very bright spill. Battery draw is 2.52A on high and 60 mA on low (which is very low) with a 2 year old AW 2200 mAh cell. It has a ring for a hotspot as expected, otherwise the beam is smooth.

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Runtime with this type of driver is something like this with a 2200 mAh 18650. Flatter/longer with 2400/2600 mAh cells.

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Beamshots added 090623

I did some beamshots. It's difficult to do long range shots outside as it's just too bright at the moment. Outdoor shots were done at midnight. Just showing hotspots at 50 m. There's a sligt hole in the hotspot but that doesn't really matter for me. It works very well in the smooth DBS reflector.
I have no SKU for the brass pill, it's part of an empty DIY kit with D26 reflector and springs for a few $. Both DX and Kai sell those kits, as do many other places. All pills I have seem to fit my DBS, I've tested dozens of different pills.

Lights:
DBS with Cree MC E module at 2.4A. M bin, WC tint. 18650. Smooth reflector.
DBS with Cree XR E module at 1.2A. R2, WH tint. 18650.Smooth reflector.
1D Mag with Cree MC E at 2.8A. M bin, WC tint. D LiION. OP reflector.
3D Mag with 3 x SSC P7 at 2.8A each, DSWOI. D LiION. Smooth reflectors.


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Re: P60 dropin MC E/SSC P7 at 2.4A. DIY.

Nice work as always stefan, but because you have made all of us to expect something more from you, we need beamshots! :D
 
Re: P60 dropin MC E/SSC P7 at 2.4A. DIY.

Nice work as always stefan, but because you have made all of us to expect something more from you, we need beamshots! :D

Thanks, I made it today. The epoxy should be left alone to harden for at least a day before I turn it on for more than a few seconds. Initial throw numbers are almost 20 000 lux at 1m.
 
Re: P60 dropin MC E/SSC P7 at 2.4A. DIY.

I've been thinking about doing this for a while, but stopped at having to buy 10 or 20 of those boards. Beamshots, si vous plaissez :party:
 
Re: P60 dropin MC E/SSC P7 at 2.4A. DIY.

Very nice mod!:clap:

So those KD pills have the same thread as the DBS reflector? Do you have an sku#?

Can't wait for the beamshots.:popcorn:
 
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Re: P60 dropin MC E/SSC P7 at 2.4A. DIY.

Beamshots added to post #1. Bad conditions for outdoor beamshots here with the bright summer nights, there's also a nasty plague of gnats and mosquitoes this year:caution:.
 
Thank you Stefan. I know the drop-ins you mean. I wasn't sure if there was a separate pill without the reflector. Good to know the DBS is a standard size.

I'm with you on the spots in the beam don't matter to me that much. I wondered how bad it must be that DereeLight made a special OP reflector for the MC-E.

I have no SKU for the brass pill, it's part of an empty DIY kit with D26 reflector and springs for a few $. Both DX and Kai sell those kits, as do many other places. All pills I have seem to fit my DBS, I've tested dozens of different pills.
 
That is a totally impressive focus on an mc-e. I've re-read your thread and I can't see what optic / lens you've used, other then 'smooth reflector.' Please, i'm very interested in how you got that tight spot with the mc-e (other's may decry the dark cross, I admire the focus it implies). Is that just a smooth reflector, nothing else? :hitit:

Best,
Linger
 
That is a totally impressive focus on an mc-e. I've re-read your thread and I can't see what optic / lens you've used, other then 'smooth reflector.' Please, i'm very interested in how you got that tight spot with the mc-e (other's may decry the dark cross, I admire the focus it implies). Is that just a smooth reflector, nothing else? :hitit:

Best,
Linger

It's the standard smooth reflector that came with the light.
 
Re: P60 dropin MC E/SSC P7 at 2.4A. DIY.

Thanks, I made it today. The epoxy should be left alone to harden for at least a day before I turn it on for more than a few seconds. Initial throw numbers are almost 20 000 lux at 1m.

Nice beamshots as always again!I like a lot your mods! Did you take any lux readings on the other lights that you post here?I know about the DBS, but the MC-E p7 and the 3xP7 how much do they throw? Thanks!
 
Re: P60 dropin MC E/SSC P7 at 2.4A. DIY.

Nice beamshots as always again!I like a lot your mods! Did you take any lux readings on the other lights that you post here?I know about the DBS, but the MC-E p7 and the 3xP7 how much do they throw? Thanks!

The readings are actual lux @ 1 m. Not calculated/approximated from other distances. The MC E DBS is 18 200 lux. The 1D Mag with MC E is ~20 000 lux. The 3D 3 x SSC P7 is ~15 000 lux. The original XR-E R2 DBS module is ~29 000 lux. The meter I have seem to be pretty accurate when compared to other measurements taken over the years on CPF and elsewhere. The readings are just a pointer to how the light might perform in relation to others for throw. This light (the DBS with MC E) just doesn't compare going up against the 1D Mag for example, but for it's size it's exceptional.
 
What reflectors were used for 3D Mag with 3 x SSC P7 ?
The good review :thumbsup:
 
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