Peak Arc Clone - 1 LED

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I was one of the "fortunate" ones that got an order in early enough to have it shipped before Ebay dropped Peak. Whether or not that gets resolved, I don't know, since I can only speculate about Ebay's reasons. Anyway, the reasonable looking prices and the description of 3 LEDs triggered my curiosity enough to get me to order.

The online description, I thought, described a 3 LED flashlight using a single AAA cell. Edit: Erroneous statement removed. What I received was a single LED flashlight. Since in appearance it is so much like an Arc AAA, I figured I'd compare them.

The appearance of the Peak AAA appears identical to the Arc, right down to identical measurements, the same knurling pattern and the lug at the tail. The only difference is the missing dark anodized finish. It is the color of aluminum, possible polished or buffed. It also came with an industrial Panasonic alkaline cell. Inside, the appearance is the same, minus the dampening washer used in an Arc. So, you do get some battery rattle. The little bit of battery rattle doesn't bother me, so I don't really count that as a important, personally; I know it is important to some.

I took it, and an Arc AAA into my garage, which is near totally dark except for a bit of light that squeaks through the edge of the outside door. The beam of Peak barely competed with the beam of the Arc. The Peak put out a pleasing but dim blue spot that barely seemed usable for anything more than being better than no light. The Arc, while still being limited to the light possible from a single Nichia, had a beam with a bit of blue tint, but comparitevly quite white and extremely brighter. I can't stress the word "extremely" enough. I switched the batteries of the Peak and Arc, just in case, and the results were the same.

The Peak was so dim that I decided to test it against the CMG Infinity; not the Plus, but the standard Infinity. Testing them together, I of course found the Infinity dimmer than the Arc, which is expected since it's throttled for battery life. The Infinity appeared significantly brighter than the Peak.

For practical use, the Peak would probably be useless in a situation of ambient light, and probably couldn't provide much help. In total darkness, and possibly finding keyholes it could be useful. For general use, I find it lacking.

Of course I received only one light, so I can't say it represents the entire line. The one I received, however, leaves a lot to be desired.
 
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this seems consistent with the findings of some other members ... very blue beam on the dim side ...
thanx for letting us know ... I would have jumped on the bandwagon if ebay hadn't put down the auctions ...
Once in a while .. luck shines on the slow ones /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
bernhard
 
Did you measure the battery current of the Peak? Also did you try it with a different battery?

I find the Infinity to be a perfectly good light, that represents one side of a fairly obvious trade-off between running the led in spec and getting long runtime on one side, vs. overdriving the led and getting shorter runtime and maybe less led reliability, but more brightness, on the other side. If the Peak is actually dimmer than an Infinity though, that's not so good.

It could be that you got a defective light, or a weak battery, or it could be that Peak needs to adjust or redesign their boost circuit.
 
Paul, I switched batteries between them, just in case. I can't say Peak is dimmer than an Infinity. I can only say my Peak is dimmer than an Infinity.
 
Since all of these Peaks are prototypes, there is no telling how these will compare to their "real" offering. I can see where a single LED would be found wanting if it is driven the same as one of the three in the 3X 5 mm's that I bought and received (Sucks that you didn't get what you bought and paid for!) With three of these LED's I think the light puts out useful light. The machining of the parts I received looks real good. As to what's inside, I have no way of evaluating quality other than the effectivness of the beams which seems to be OK. I have seen nothing to make me think that Nichia has some serious concerns but then again I have no idea of relative costs or specs between the Nichia and the other white LED's.

SInce first impressions are often lasting impressions, I can only hope for Peaks sake (sounds funny! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ) that Peak's grand opening can either eclipse their early exposure here on CPF or that they find success beyond the market of CPF which one can only assume is their target market anyway. Selling prototypes on E-bay seems like a questionable out of the starting gate move to me but what do I know? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif I got some viable and different "gifts" for my money so no complaints here.
 
I fell sucker to purchasing one of the brass prototypes from E-Bay as well. What a piece of sh**. This piece of junk isn't worth the weight and it's such an obvious theft from Arc it's rediculous. As far as beam comparision, Arc has nothing to fear.
 
I have the impression the metal parts of the light are the same as the Arc, i.e. they're the leftover parts from the machine shop that Arc had the dispute with. Any quality problems with the brass head or light body? If the electronics and LED are crap, the brass parts might still make nice mod host. If I had one I'd be in contact with LEDMODS ASAP /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
 
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paulr said:
I have the impression the metal parts of the light are the same as the Arc, i.e. they're the leftover parts from the machine shop that Arc had the dispute with. Any quality problems with the brass head or light body? If the electronics and LED are crap, the brass parts might still make nice mod host. If I had one I'd be in contact with LEDMODS ASAP /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

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You read my mind, however I want to wait until I recieve the other (3) MODS he's working on for me.
 
Okay, talk is cheap. Lets see some beamshots from various people.

These Peak flashlights sound really, really bad, especially from multiple folks all having the same issue. ARC body rejects with inferior converters and cheap LEDs. So, for those of you that have them, are they bad enough to consider junk?
 
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NewBie said:
Okay, talk is cheap. Lets see some beamshots from various people.

These Peak flashlights sound really, really bad, especially from multiple folks all having the same issue. ARC body rejects with inferior converters and cheap LEDs. So, for those of you that have them, are they bad enough to consider junk?


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You can see some of my pics here

They are of the 3 x 5mm light vs some others. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

-Smono
 
only thing I like is the brass body on one of mine otherwise not very impressed with them at all ..stick with arc ...you can not go wrong with them. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Empath said:
Anyway, the reasonable looking prices and the description of 3 LEDs triggered my curiosity enough to get me to order.

The online description described a 3 LED flashlight using a single AAA cell. My Paypal receipt described my purchase of a 3 LED flashlight. What I received was a single LED flashlight. Since in appearance it is so much like an Arc AAA, I figured I'd compare them.


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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon6.gifI have taken a look into your order myself personally and it shows that you ordered and paid for a Peak Led Solutions AAA ( White ) Alodine Aluminum. This item is correct in the description that it is a single led. Also in Alodine we did not offer any 3LED versions on ebay. Only in Brass & HA.
 
I went back to my Paypal receipts. I had two receipts. The first was for the order, and the second was to send you the shipping cost. Apparently I looked at the second instead of the first. The second, which I initiated myself for shipping, referenced a 3 LED light, since that's what I thought I was getting. But, you're right. The original does indeed reference only a Peak Led Solutions AAA ( White ) Alodine Aluminum light. For that I owe you an apology. As for what was described on Ebay, I can't say, since it's been removed. I only know that something regarding it led me to believe it was 3 LEDs. I'll just give you the benefit of doubt on that.

Again, I apologize to you, and also to all the readers that may have been misled by my carelessness.

I'll edit my post to remove the erroneous statement.

Thank you.
 
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Empath said:
I went back to my Paypal receipts. I had two receipts. The first was for the order, and the second was to send you the shipping cost. Apparently I looked at the second instead of the first. The second, which I initiated myself for shipping, referenced a 3 LED light, since that's what I thought I was getting. But, you're right. The original does indeed reference only a Peak Led Solutions AAA ( White ) Alodine Aluminum light. For that I owe you an apology. As for what was described on Ebay, I can't say, since it's been removed. I only know that something regarding it led me to believe it was 3 LEDs. I'll just give you the benefit of doubt on that.

Again, I apologize to you, and also to all the readers that may have been misled by my carelessness.

I'll edit my post to remove the erroneous statement.

Thank you.

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No problem, I rather you let us know right away if there is a mistake like that. I have forward your post to one of our staff members. Someone will be in contact with you in the morning. Thank you for your review on the prototype.
 
Thanks Kitchener. However, I only found 4 listings, and it didn't include the alodine aluminum light.
 
Yes, you're right. And, I do remember the alodine listings. Strange they don't pop up. Maybe that sale occurred just around the time Peak was suspended and hence doesn't make the "completed listings"?

Like licks to the center of a tootsie pop, the world... may never know!
 
EMPATH: I have a printed list of all 17 items that were up for auction on EBAY by PEAK. I wanted to carefully review them before I ordered. Then PEAK was suspended before I could order. Sounds as if I lucked out! Anyway, if you give me the Item number I can confirm what the title description says exactly.
 

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