Pelican 7060 LAPD: Preview

[PeteBroccolo]

I certainly have a preference for the lights that I now have, but given the size, look and apparent performance of this light, per the manufacturers' material, as well as from McGizmo's photos, this looks like this would be a very competent duty light.

It will be interesting to see who will be the first webtailer of this light, and how much it will go for. Hopefully, the light will be available to Canadians - I have been known to order direct from their Canadian operation!

 

[Art Vandelay]

I'm guessing it will be. They sold 10,000 to LAPD at $100. They will sell a few to to the early adopters at $200. Then they will want to sell another 10,000 or more, so they will lower the price. A light like this could be an all time best seller if it makes it to Wal-Mart.

Great Review! This light looks like a winner to me. If the production model is as good as this Beta version and the price is closer to $100 I will have one for sure!

 

[Chao]

Thanks for this great review :goodjob:

 

[McGizmo]

LoBat,

I added a link in the first post to the Pelican spec web page for the 7060.

Pilou,

The camera doesn't do any of these lights justice because it simply can't record the dynamic range that our eyes can perceive. As I stated, all of these lights did a more than adequate job of lighting up the yard for me to see. One advantage of the XR-E's distribution pattern is that it is powerfull head on and its spill beam has plenty light. Even though the 7060 had the brightest and tightest spot of the samples shown, to the naked eye, there was plenty illumination out beyond the spot. You can see in the images that the grass in the foreground is best illuminated by the 7060.

The reflector is one piece and there are some concentric waves in the surface but the ring you see is the reflection of the LED's lens retaining ring. Head on, all you see is yellow phosphor with some slight concentric rings.

As to another question of your, I believe a person could put another person in the hospital with any of these flashlights. The bezel is not sharp at all though. I don't think you could get a DNA sample with the bezel. A good knurled surface would be much more apt to tear through the skin.

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Although this light was categorized as obsolete and other things in the other thread, it would be dificult to compare it with a group of its peers at present because there aren't any that I am aware of. The XR-E die is a 2 amp part. I believe the 7060 is driving the LED past 1 amp but I am not concerned in principal about the health of the LED; especially in a flashlight where a few thousand hours is a long time! Assuming a reasonable thermal path from LED to heat sink, the light is not getting hot to any extent worthy of concern, IMHO.

 

[woodrow]

Thank you very much for the preview and photos. Now if you could make June get here a little sooner so I could buy one...I would be very happy indeed.

Thanks Again!

 

[Brighteyez]

Given that Pelican lights are generally sold from online resources at anywhere from 1/3 to over 40% off of the list price, I wouldn't expect this product to sell any differently and would speculate that it will probably settle into a price point in the $125-140 neighborhood once all the hoopla has settled. That being said, Streamlight and Mag products don't generally sell for anywhere near their MSRP prices either at many retail outlets.

I'd kind of doubt that it would be in the Wal-Mart demographic though And Pelican lights aren't all that easy to find from a lot local retail resources.

Don - Thanks for the preview! Very informational.

I'm guessing it will be. They sold 10,000 to LAPD at $100. They will sell a few to to the early adopters at $200. Then they will want to sell another 10,000 or more, so they will lower the price. A light like this could be an all time best seller if it makes it to Wal-Mart.

 

[JAS]

Thank you for the preview. Right now what is the closest competitor to this as far as being:

-LED

-cradle charged rechargeagble lithium-ion

I suspect that it is the Inova T4. In fact, once this light comes out it will be interesting to see a direct head to head comparison of the Pelican 7060 vs. the Inova T4.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Lux @ 1 meter
Pelican 7060: 10,870
Inova T4: 1,665

Lumens
Pelican 7060: 174
Inova T4: 38

Price
Pelican 7060: $199.95
Inova T4 with charger: $129.00 at BrightGuy.com

Inova T4 numbers from flashlightreviews.com

Thank you for the preview. Right now what is the closest competitor to this as far as being:

-LED

-cradle charged rechargeagble lithium-ion

I suspect that it is the Inova T4. In fact, once this light comes out it will be interesting to see a direct head to head comparison of the Pelican 7060 vs. the Inova T4.

 

[SaratogaWay]

When it comes to the throw quality, bin selections, switch configs, etc., lets remember this is a custom light. Nothing is really going to compare 'Right Now'. Lets wait til the commercial version comes out or an LAPD officer is a potential CPF'r and can do a review.

 

[woodrow]

I know not everyone agrees, and I can see the limitations, but having a light that you do not have to disassemble and just simply throw on a charger is a very nice thing. It is the only thing I liked about my old T4 and something I really liked in my SL US and SurvivorLED.

I think based on what the light does, for 98% of a officer's nightly use, the 1.5 hours should be more than enough. The beam looks way to bright to be used for general report writing that could use up its battery before the light was needed for more of a tactical application.

 

[IsaacHayes]

I guess we will see if these prove durable/etc in the long run. But for what it is, you can not deny that it's output is great!!! It sure throws and the spill from the cree is great! Thanks for the "preview" Don, I was surprised by the output!! I don't think the output or CRI will be an issue for any officers.

EDIT: I agree with you Don, that the Cree-XR-E is a great choice and durable enough to withstand some overdrive past 1amp spec. The die is rated at 2amp, but not the package. However the phosphor and how the die is mounted is more durable than other packages using the ezbright1000 die, and thus can withstand some abuse where others would not. I don't think the LED will let anyone down, let's hope the flashlight design doesn't have any weak faliure points that show up later.

For what it is, I think they did a good job. Sure they could of done this, or that, but that would drive cost beyond the goal I would imagine. I like it. :thumbsup:

 

[Art Vandelay]

For a low light level, how about combining the Pelican with one of these discrete, shirt pocket lights that are hands free.

http://www.quiqlite.com/index.html

 

[IsaacHayes]

Don, do you think you could measure the drive level? If you don't want to break the LED connection, how about measuring how much is pulled from the cell. That would give us a rough idea of how much the LED could be getting.

EDIT: What is the lens made of?

 

[LowBat]

Hmmm.... at 8.65" it maybe wearable. My initial impression from the picture was it's too big. My other concerns were the emitter and the price. Now I know its a Cree and I see Pelican-Case is selling them for about $140. This might be something I would buy and carry afterall. As a good holster is just as important, I'm now wondering what the nylon holster looks like.

 

[boef800]

wow,nice Pelican.Can you say Killer off the shelf light?

Alex

 

[McGizmo]

Isaac,

I have no doubt that one of these will end up under the knife for all to see but it should be a production unit bought and paid for by the cutter if you catch my drift. I have some mod ideas myself but they will wait until I get one of these through normal channels.

Since Pelican has posted a spec on flux, I feel comfortable taking some rough light measures of this beta sample but I don't want to get into electronics or measures of current and I won't.

The window (lens) is molded into the bezel like most of the plastic Pelican lights so I assume it is polycarbonate. The bezel is interchangeable with that of the M9 and in fact I can see some potential for some swapping of components between the two lights; potential for physical fit but posible magic smoke. On the 7060, center is + and perimiter -. On the M9, center - and perimiter +. The M9 incan LA may be compatible with the 7060 bezel and base but the LED module might be in harms way if one tried to mate it to the M9. This is going beyond the light and headed into areas best left to a diferent forum.

 

[ringzero]

Now from a hobbyist point of view, this light won't win any beauty contests :laughing:.

What's the old saying about the location of beauty? 'In the eye of the beholder?' There's no accounting for taste.

To me, this *is* a beautiful light. Sleek lines, futuristic and functional, really cool looking. Much better looking than any Surefire light - to my eyes anyway.

YMMV

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[astrogrub]

Great review, thanks Don.........looks intriguing but even more interesting (to me at least) and not meaning to get too off-topic, is that S27Cx2 of yours........

 

[yellow]

impressive data, impressive beamshots, good looking interiors and construction

but I stay with my 1st impression: much too long and bulky for a single 18650 duty light (even considering the double switch and charging part)

to add a battery holder at the cradle, for charging a batt outside of the light if the need arises, were a plus.

 

[PhantomPhoton]

Now that there are some details out, I'd say initial appearances are good.

Thanks for the (P)review!