Pelican 7060 LAPD: Preview

[Phaserburn]

This light is appealing to me. I like the toughness, brightness and internal charging li-ion power. It's the new Magcharger!

 

[Patriot]

It looks pretty cool and appears to be tough. I think I'd like it more if it were a bit smaller. It's a nearly 9" long 18650?....hmm, that might be a bit too much for carry purposes for me. Actually it seems to fit the bill perfectly for a duty light. I think Pelican did a great job with this one.

 

[pilou]

As to another question of your, I believe a person could put another person in the hospital with any of these flashlights.

I asked only because supposedly the LAPD wanted to avoid a metal light, thinking it could be used as a weapon. Based on your comment, I wonder if the case material has made any difference. Perhaps this Pelican can still be used as a weapon, but maybe it won't cause as much damage? I think the lesser weight compared to a 4D mag alreay makes a big difference in that regard.

Thanks.

 

[greenstuffs]

This thing really puts out a nice beam the best so far out of all CREE lights. Nothing to the purple blue from the TV news. Other than that i would like to see it in a smaller package just so is more friendly carry for people who don't wear a duty belt.

 

[pilou]

Lux @ 1 meter
Pelican 7060: 10,870
Inova T4: 1,665

Lumens
Pelican 7060: 174
Inova T4: 38

Price
Pelican 7060: $199.95
Inova T4 with charger: $129.00 at BrightGuy.com

Inova T4 numbers from flashlightreviews.com

Assuming the FR numbers and McGizmo's numbers are from methods and instruments calibrated the same way, to compare the throw numbers, you really need to compare the square roots for the Lux numbers. So it is about 41 for the T1 and 104 for the Pelican, a significant difference indeed. The lumens number for the Pelican is very approximate ad should be taken with a grain of salt though.

Even the new K2 T4, which has been reported to be noticeably brighter than the older version, still has probably a throw of less than 60. But you can get this light for around $105.

All in all though, they are in differnt leagues, both in price and performance. But if you compare them to certain HID lights, even the Pelican doesn't seem all that mighty. A Magcharger has a Lux reading of 30,000, for a throw number of 173! The UltraStinger has a throw of 148. The MicroFire warrior has a Lux reading of 55,000 :wow: and so a throw of 234! But we are now in a different price category too :laughing:

 

[BentHeadTX]

Looks like a great design to me.
Figure the light can be recharged in the squad car so ultra-long runtimes are not required. My brother-in-law is a cop and really likes my LuxV 8AA (2D) Mag so the Pelican 7060 LAPD would be great for him.

 

[clipse]

I'm very excited about this. I don't need a small light. I was pretty excited about the Cree dropin I'm getting for my 2C Maglite turn 2x18500. I have a feeling I would like this light MUCH more.

 

[chesterqw]

so the new light is essentially a "plastic"(because it is not really plastic) with a LED module and an extra heatsink....

 

[BrighTor]

Thank you very much for posting the review and pictures. I'm not a technical user or even the end-user that this light is aimed at, but I do enjoy seeing new lights/beamshots/dissections and reading reviews by folks who know a LOT more about them than I do. Thank you for your time and effort.

 

[jsr]

Wow, that's impressive output. Hopefully Pelican will flow down the knowledge they gained from the development of the 7060 to their civilian lights.

What is the relative size of the Li-Ion battery? Is it multiple batteries stacked together?

 

[slick228]

Hi Don,

Thank you for the extensive preview/review. How does this light compare to the SureFire KX5?

 

[Lobo]

Most impressive beamshots!
I guess the lesson learned is not to judge beam quality from a crappy news footage.
And thanks for the review, I've been curious about this light. A different and interesting aproach for a duty-light.

 

[2xTrinity]

Although this light was categorized as obsolete and other things in the other thread, it would be dificult to compare it with a group of its peers at present because there aren't any that I am aware of. The XR-E die is a 2 amp part. I believe the 7060 is driving the LED past 1 amp but I am not concerned in principal about the health of the LED; especially in a flashlight where a few thousand hours is a long time! Assuming a reasonable thermal path from LED to heat sink, the light is not getting hot to any extent worthy of concern, IMHO.

I do think that driving the LED does have a downside -- that's shortened battery life. They probably had to cut the battery life in half just to gain the last ~25-30% of the lumen output.

I think based on what the light does, for 98% of a officer's nightly use, the 1.5 hours should be more than enough. The beam looks way to bright to be used for general report writing that could use up its battery before the light was needed for more of a tactical application.

The fact that the light has this relatively short runtime is probably the biggest downside. Another alternative would have been to use something larger than an 18650 (that's likely what's inside their proprietary battery, based on the 3.7V 2200mAh spec) -- in a light this big IMHO they could have done so, especially if they were planning to drive it so hard.

As for people claiming the light was obsolete, I think a lot of people were assuming tha the reported 130lm was maximum lumens at the LED, not minmum lumens out the front -- depending on which way Pelican wanted to report it, that can make about a 2 to 1 difference. This, and the fact they mentioned a 1W LED led many to suspect they were using an older-generation emitter.

 

[brightnorm]

In terms of useful runtime as well as relatively non-dimming runtime the 7060 trumps standard carry lights like the P-M9 and Stinger. A twin caddy charger (like the Stinger's) would have been nice for simultaneous charging of the light and second battery.

I thought that when a LED is "pushed" hard there is deterioration over time even if it is amply heat-sinked, but apparently I was wrong.

It will be interesting to get LEOs' hands-on reports of the 7060's performance for combined duty/tactical applications.

Brightnorm

 

[Nitroz]

Don,

Great review!

I would say with output like this it is possible that Pelican could of received some of the Q2, or even some of the Q3 XR-E LEDs. This would certainly take some of heat issues out of the equation if only powered at 1 amp.

Were you able to measure the width and depth of the 7060 reflector?

 

[2xTrinity]

Don,

Great review!

I would say with output like this it is possible that Pelican could of received some of the Q2, or even some of the Q3 XR-E LEDs. This would certainly take some of heat issues out of the equation if only powered at 1 amp.

Were you able to measure the width and depth of the 7060 reflector?

I highly doubt they powered the LED higher than one amp -- doing so is above the maximum spec from Cree, which I wouldn't expect a major company that expects to warantee these lights indefinitely to do under any circumstances. It is very possible that they are higher-binned Crees, though.

 

[depusm12]

Well I just got off the phone with Pelican Customer Service and was told the light won't be available for general public until about June. Thought everybody might want to know.

 

[SQ40]

This light is appealing to me. I like the toughness, brightness and internal charging li-ion power. It's the new Magcharger!

+1, I don't think the $140 they are selling for is unreasonable in the least either.

 

[SQ40]

Well I just got off the phone with Pelican Customer Service and was told the light won't be available for general public until about June. Thought everybody might want to know.

That one place has them on Pre-Order for the $140.. Not too shabby, with a June Delivery date.. thats only 60-90 Days..

 

[Phaserburn]

Who's taking pre-orders?

:huh2: