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Bearcat

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Phaserburn said:
how much dimmer are 2x2016 cell lights when using a single 2032?

It appears to me to be a little less than half as bright with a white LED. Still plenty of light to walk around with, but with way more than double the runtime.
 

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It's dim, but handy with very long runtime. I called off a very informal runtime test of an NV green PF with 1x2032 after ~12 days because I wanted to get the light back into my life. It was still putting out usable light.

NV green probably seems much brighter than white in the 1x2032 mode as the NV green PF is actually CYAN -- which nearly always comes across much brighter than white when driven similarly. Whichever color you drive with 1x2032, be sure to bring some visual purple. :D
 

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carrot said:
How does the Photon Freedom like water, in your experience?
Mine has inadvertantly been fully dunked underwater for a second or two with no ill effect. The PFs are widely considered 'splash resistant' I think. I have seen instructions to make them waterproof by assembling them with silicone grease -- but I've never been that motivated...

By and large, I think they're pretty tight...within reason.
 

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Hey, I followed that link over to batteryjunction and saw the batteries for sale at the bottom of the page. I know Photons come with energizers, but can anyone tell me the "real world" difference between the energizers and the cheap ones? What's your experience been?

A little story(skip if you're in a hurry :p ): I had a PrincetonTec Impulse with me while I was in Central Asia for the last half year or so. When my batteries died I was surprised that I could find replacements at the local bazaar (outside market) for about 10 cents. They didn't seem to last all that long, and sometimes the light wouldn't come on at all. I finally realized some of the problem was that the batteries weren't making proper contact so I tried to bend the tiny battery tab just a little. Well, it didn't bend... :ohgeez: Needless to say it was time to buy a new keychain light, and when I got back here I picked up some Freedoms, did a little research, and then started this thread. :)

So I'm currious about your battery-brand opinions...
 

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NeitherExtreme said:
Hey, I followed that link over to batteryjunction and saw the batteries for sale at the bottom of the page. I know Photons come with energizers, but can anyone tell me the "real world" difference between the energizers and the cheap ones? What's your experience been?

...So I'm currious about your battery-brand opinions...
I read the hype about PFs for a couple years before I bought my first. I didn't have faith in the lights; I didn't want to stock another cell (cr2016 or cr2032) but the aftermath of Katrina made me rethink the whole 'dim, discrete light' situation so I bought the NV green covert to try out.

I soon saw what the hype was about. Now we probably have 6-8 of them and they are a part of our kit. I just bit the bullet and bought at least an 8.7 year supply (for two) of 2032s and 2016s from Batteryspace.com at 35¢ each.

I don't know how it will work out in the long term. The cells looked nice, so far they work well and I'm controlling their humidity in storage. Frankly, we use these lights all the time and yet we change out cells so infrequently that I don't know if we'll ever use all the cells I've put up -- and I like that.

I'd advise buying cheap cells from a reputable vendor -- if they look clean and work well just keep them from excessive humidity (if that's an issue for your region) and hope for the best. At least a good supply won't cost you an arm and a leg if you shop around online.
 

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NeitherExtreme said:
...I finally realized some of the problem was that the batteries weren't making proper contact so I tried to bend the tiny battery tab just a little. Well, it didn't bend... :ohgeez: Needless to say it was time to buy a new keychain light, and when I got back here I picked up some Freedoms, did a little research, and then started this thread...
This may not be the problem you were having, but I have discovered that a little ProGold liquid (Craig Laboratories DeoxIT Gold) can help contact issues in keychain lights. I had a picolight that was very dim but the batteries tested ok; the problem was cured by a bit of DeoxIT to clean the LED legs, followed by some ProGold.
 

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My experience with cheap cells vs brand cells when creating LED throwies is that the cheap ones last 20% to 30% less than the brand named cells.
Beware I'm talking of cheap cells I get here so can't discuss any source or provider.
Depending on the price the 20% less runtime can be fine because the cell is a lot cheaper than 20% the price of the other cell.

Luigi
 

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Mine came in yesterday. Its the realtree version. Looks cool though compared to the all black. Very easy to learn the Ui. Quite bright but I don't really like the output colour. Its yellowish and has a blue tint in the hotspot compared to a LF2 SSC. I checked the box it came with just in case it was the yellow one but nope its the white led version. Nonetheless it very bright for a microlight and with useful 12 hour battery runtime. Comes with useful accessories also. Might come in handy one day. So now it sits with my keychain backup to the LF2 SSC.
I bought it direct from photonlight but one can easily get them from other on-line stores for much much less.
 

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Anyone have a yellow photon, freedom or otherwise, that can comment on it's brightness? I am expecting dimmer than white, but how much so? Or vs a red?
 

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Hi all! I just bought a couple of Freedoms and have really liked them for what they are- tiny well designed lighting tools. Well, after researching them for a while to satisy my curiosity, I put all the information I found together since I couldn't find it all in one place. I found some of the info on this forum, so I figured I'd share the final project here. I don't think its any new information, just all writen down together.

I hope its helpful/interesting. Its a little long-winded, but that one little button sure does a lot!:)

If you see anything wrong or think of anything to add, let me know.

LRI PHOTON FREEDOM:

ON/Full Power: (From OFF) Press & Release.

OFF: (From any mode except Signal mode) Press & Release.

Fade Up: (From OFF) Push & Hold till desire level. It will blink once when it reaches full power.

Fade Down: (From ON) Push & Hold till desired level. It will blink once when it reaches lowest power.

Blink Modes: Push & Hold for a few seconds (after reaching full power). First will be slow, medium, fast, and SOS. Keep holding to cycle through them and release at desired mode. You can also stop at each one and change to the next one by Pushing & Holding for a few seconds. Also, if you Release as soon as you reach the blinking modes (when it first flashes off) it will start in SOS instead of slow.

50% Mode: From OFF Push until "first light" and then Release quickly. You can now Push & Hold until it reaches the level you would like. It will be using half the power as usual, so "full power" is 50%. This effects all levels and the blinking modes as well. You can check that you are using this mode by setting it to "full power" and waving it back and forth. In 50% mode it will look like a dotted line (strobing). In normal mode it will be solid. It will return to normal mode when it is turned off.

Signal Mode: Press and Release quickly about 5 times. Now the light works like a momentary switch. Push & Hold until it turns off to return to normal.

Demonstration Mode: This is the way the light comes when new. You can also return to this mode by removing the battery(s) and then Pushing & Holding the switch as you put the battery(s) back in. In this mode none of the blinking modes will work, but all the ON/OFF and brightness controls will work. The light will also turn OFF after about 6 seconds. To exit this mode Push & Hold for about 20 seconds (till it turns OFF) or remove and replace the batteries without Holding the switch.

Tips for not draining batteries by accidentally switching ON: 1) Carry the light turned around in the necklace carrier so that the switch is protected. 2) Set the light in Signal mode when done using it. 3) Keep it in Demonstration Mode until you need one of the other functions, and then reset it when you can.

Covert Shield: A small black tube around the LED that eliminates side-light.

Color Advantages (the short version):
White: Most like natural light, good all around color.
IR(Infrared): For use with Night Vision equipment.
Red: Doesn't disturb night vision. Signal for danger/attention.
Orange: Compromise of Red and Yellow.
Yellow: Projects farther than red. Good general illumination.
Green: Our eyes see green light best, so we can detect many different shades. It is also very efficient.
Blue: Very Bright. Lights up an area well.
Turquoise(NightVisionGreen): Similar to Blue, but lighter.
Purple: Black-light effect.
UV(UltraViolet): Useful in a number of specialty applicaitons

Batteries: IR, Red, Orange, and Yellow should only be used with 1x2032. The rest can be used with 2x2016 (that's how they come) for higher output, or 1x 2032 for longer life.

Changing Batteries: Use a small screwdriver or other small tool to pop the back off. There is a tab close to the keychain hole. Then remove the battery(s) and replace.

Changing LEDs: Use 5mm LEDs. The Freedom gives 3 or 6 volts depending on the batteries used. Once you have taken the battery(s) out, the circuit board should come out fairly easily. It is "plugged" into the LED but isn't otherwise fastened in. Get the back edge started and then you should be able to pull it off the LED. The back of the LED will now be exposed. To remove it use a small tool to push it from the back. NOTE the polarity of the LED. Now cut the leads of the new LED to match the old ones and push it back in, paying attention to the polarity. Now replace the circuit board, batteries, and cover. They are a snug fit to keep water out, but with a little work it should be doable.

Freedom Trivia: Under the battery cap there are different "freedom quotes", such as "Freedom of Speech". It also says "Be Safe, always carry a Photon Microlight."

LINKS:
PhotonLight: http://www.photonlight.com/
Discussion Board: [URL="http://forum.photonlight.com/index.php"]http://forum.photonlight.com/index.php
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I just got both Photon Freedom(White & NV Green) from Battery Junction and got both of them set to one of the modes you mentioned above. The clip and the lanyard will come in handy when I need to use them. :)
 

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Sorry to revive an old thread. Just picked up another one of these with a white led. Any recommendation's on how to clean up the beam? Its got alot of rings and artifacts in it. Thanks
 

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Sorry to revive an old thread. Just picked up another one of these with a white led. Any recommendation's on how to clean up the beam? Its got alot of rings and artifacts in it. Thanks
Covert (shrouded) version or completely exposed emitter? Super fine steel wool stuffed down in the covert nose, or wrapped around the exposed emitter and worked with a circular scrubbing motion works well with both to haze the dome a little bit, it reduces throw ever so slightly but smooths it out quite a bit. Do it in small increments, test frequently to see if it's to your liking...
 

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Oh ok thanks! Its been several years since ive modded or messed around with anything.

Picked up the covert model. I do enjoy how light they are on the keychain. I know its old technology, but there is just some sort of nostalgia about it.
GREAT little lights. Enjoy! Read Sub_umbra's Water Epiphany thread to see some real-world uses...
 

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I did a double take when I saw this thread was asleep for sixteen YEARS. Obviously the mfr is still alive and kicking. I take issue with one thing: photon freedom is asking $15.95 (plus tax and shipping) for one of these? Useful as a Keychain backup, yes but these are the freebie giveaway squeezy lights given away by the metric ton for years as "bonus gifts". I just can't see the justification for the asking price.
 
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