picture request - L1D next to L2D

[LED-holic]

I've done a search but I have not come across any pictures of the Fenix L1D next to the L2D.

Does anyone have any pictures like this? Would you kindly post it?

Thanks!

 

[boonsht]

They aren't exactly next to each other but maybe this might help?

 

[LED-holic]

Yes that's perfect. Thank you!!!

 

[Marduke]

This one also:
http://www.lighthound.com/images/assets/fenix_ce_family.jpg

 

[LED-holic]

This one also:
http://www.lighthound.com/images/assets/fenix_ce_family.jpg

Very nice, thanks!!!

From what I can see, the L1D is not really *that* much smaller than the L2D, and with the relatively small difference in price (less than a few bucks), it really makes better sense to buy the L2D to take advantage of the brighter light output and longer runtime, for me at least.

Anyone with a L1D disagree?

So when I get the E01 and have the L2D my EDC carry needs would be fully realized, I think.

 

[qip]

i think the mistake is getting an E01 :devil: get the LOD, since you just saved money not getting the L1d put it to the proper aaa light get same lumens on low mode and higher lumens in other modes cant go wrong

 

[LED-holic]

i think the mistake is getting an E01 :devil: get the LOD, since you just saved money not getting the L1d put it to the proper aaa light get same lumens on low mode and higher lumens in other modes cant go wrong

LOL I was just looking at the L0D page again on fenix-store.com. So tempting, but I really really like the E01 because I could buy several for the price of a single L0D. I want to give the E01 to my wife and have a spare.

Decisions decisions!

PS - I'm going to buy a second L2D-Q5, as a back up to my existing L2D-Q5. I was debating maybe buying a L1D in lieu of the L2D but the pictures have helped me decide that I should order the L2D instead.

 

[FrankW438]

Maybe this will give you a different perspective.

I really like both of them, but the L1D fits in my pocket much better. You could buy an L2D and buy a L1D body & tailcap, so you could switch off as you desire.


Hope this helps!

-- Frank

 

[mighty82]

I have both the L2D and L1D and I use the L1D more. The most important reason is, I don't have to match the batteries in pairs, I can just throw in any battery without worries.

With the L2D, if you run the batteries down completely one of them will run out of juice and start being reverse charged and often start venting if they are not perfectly matched in capacity and charge (the fenix circuit is TOO good, and sucks the batteries completely dry in the L2D).

I use the L2D too, but i have 2 matched pairs of eneloops i use only in that light to avoid problems (eneloops are very close together in capacity). Especially if you don't have an advanced charger that can show you the real capacity of the batteries, I think L1D is the best option. I have bigger flashlights and throwers if i really need more than 120(ish) lumens. (I never really do).

 

[LED-holic]

Thank you Frank and mighty82 - very useful information to chew on.

I would have thought L1D vs L2D would be a simple decision, but obviously it's not such a simple decision after all.

If only Fenix didn't price the two flashlights so closely in price, it would be a much easier decision.

With regards to the AA battery the chargers I have only charges in pairs, so that's why I figured it'd be easier to use the L2D since I can't really charge a single AA at a time. But the reverse charge certainly is a concern.

Boy these decisions are never so easy, unless of course I won the lottery and could buy several L1D, L2D, L0D, and E01s at once.

I won't place my order until the E01s are shipping from fenix-store, so I have a few days to stew on this until I decide what to do.

Thank you for your inputs!

 

[qip]

probably the only flashlight ANYONE could ever need for any daily use, the low mode rivals plastic 2-3d cheapie incan lights sold everywhere and will run for 80+ hours on e2 sold everywhere , cant be beat i love it

anyway your setup is right on for edc and mini carry in bag or pocket ,i edc the LOD and have the L2d w/L1d body & tailcap for pocket travel or bag light

my only gripe is i couldnt wait till the black LOD was in stock so i had to get natural

 

[FrankW438]

The reason I bought the L1D (and later the L2D) in the first place was so I could use inexpensive, readily available disposable AA Alkalines. I've been trying some Duracell LSD rechargables in the L2D and they're not bad. A buddy borrowed my L1D to see if he wanted one, and returned it with an Energizer E2 Lithium battery in it.

Yes, there are a lot of battery options for these little guys, but nothing beats the economy and the commonality of the good old AA Alkaline. I carry lots of spare AAs for my GPSr's, my scanner, and my wife's point-n-shoot camera. I hate it when rechargables run dry on you, and you have no option but to recharge or carry a spare rechargeable. If only my cellphone and PDA took AA batteries!

-- Frank

 

[PlayboyJoeShmoe]

I carry an L1D Q5 each day as EDC Prime. I can't easily deal with a 2AA light as EDC as it hangs up on the seat of my truck.

The little 1AA sits in front of my cell and causes no problems.

If you'd go for the 4 in 1 pack you'd get the extra brightness of a 123.

But I like 1AA better as it comes out of the holster I use better than P2.

 

[Marduke]

The reason I bought the L1D (and later the L2D) in the first place was so I could use inexpensive, readily available disposable AA Alkalines. I've been trying some Duracell LSD rechargables in the L2D and they're not bad. A buddy borrowed my L1D to see if he wanted one, and returned it with an Energizer E2 Lithium battery in it.

Yes, there are a lot of battery options for these little guys, but nothing beats the economy and the commonality of the good old AA Alkaline. I carry lots of spare AAs for my GPSr's, my scanner, and my wife's point-n-shoot camera. I hate it when rechargables run dry on you, and you have no option but to recharge or carry a spare rechargeable. If only my cellphone and PDA took AA batteries!

-- Frank

Little backwards. Alkalines are a last resort for a light like this. NiMH give a much longer runtime at a much more constant level of brightness. They are also far cheaper to run. A typical NiMH AA costs about $2 and will last for around 500 cycles. That's $0.004 per use. That's right, 4/10 of one cent. A typical alkaline is around maybe 30 cents a piece and has maybe 60% of the runtime in high drain electronics.


I don't get one thing, if you carry lots of spare AA alks, why don't you like carrying spare NiMH? You'd actually have to carry less spares with NiMH since they last longer and need replaced far less.

Let's look at a typical runtime graph with some common cell types to show the advantages:

http://www.flashlightreviews.com/reviews/fenix_l0dce.htm

 

[PlayboyJoeShmoe]

Oh yeah, I should have mentioned in my other post.

I like the L1 better also because I use LSD NimH batteries in it.

 

[FrankW438]

Little backwards. Alkalines are a last resort for a light like this. NiMH give a much longer runtime at a much more constant level of brightness. They are also far cheaper to run. A typical NiMH AA costs about $2 and will last for around 500 cycles. That's $0.004 per use. That's right, 4/10 of one cent. A typical alkaline is around maybe 30 cents a piece and has maybe 60% of the runtime in high drain electronics.


I don't get one thing, if you carry lots of spare AA alks, why don't you like carrying spare NiMH? You'd actually have to carry less spares with NiMH since they last longer and need replaced far less.

Let's look at a typical runtime graph with some common cell types to show the advantages:

http://www.flashlightreviews.com/reviews/fenix_l0dce.htm

For day-to-day use of some items, like my scanner, I do use NiHMs. It just makes economical sense. But if due to circumstances I am unable to get these recharged, I have the option to pick up some AA alkalines in a hurry.

I don't use my EDC flashlight enough (GASP! HEATHEN!) to justify recharging a NiMH on a regular basis. The same applies to my GPSr and camera. NiMHs would have self-discharged well-before I would have drained the battery myself. This has changed now that I have some Low-Self-Discharge NiMHs. I may buy some more of these.

But the point remains that when I need to use a battery-powered item for an extended period of time, it's nice to know that I can run down to the Kwikki-Mart and buy some AA Alkalines to keep things running in a pinch.

The reason I don't carry spare NiMHs, is because I don't need spares on a day-to-day basis and I am likely to "misplace" them when I swap them out. I am like that sometimes. Also, I like to keep my NiMHs "grouped in two's or three's, depending on what they go to. That way I know the each NiMH in the set have been discharged and recharged equally.

But I can appreciate what you have to say on the matter. I may have to give this a little more consideration.

-- Frank

 

[Marduke]

Also consider that a basic 4-channel smart charger will charged all cells to full, regardless of how much they have been discharged.


And yes, LSD NiMH are MUCH MUCH better than old NiMH.


Even if you use LSD NiMH, you always retain the ability to run down to the local Kwik-E-Mart and grab some alks in a pinch.

 

[Gunner12]

More pictures!(FLR)

You can buy the different battery tubes if you would like different configurations. The L1T V2,0. L2T V2.0, all the L1Ds, all the L2Ds, and all the P2Ds all have compatible bodies(the tailcaps for the AA and CR123s are a bit different). Don't use the P3D because that would be really bad for the LED.

 

[FrankW438]

Also consider that a basic 4-channel smart charger will charged all cells to full, regardless of how much they have been discharged.


And yes, LSD NiMH are MUCH MUCH better than old NiMH.


Even if you use LSD NiMH, you always retain the ability to run down to the local Kwik-E-Mart and grab some alks in a pinch.

I know we're getting a bit off-topic here, but what kind of 4-channel smart charger would you recommend. I'm just using the Duracell 15-min charger because it was reaily available, as are the NiMHs.

Doesn't/Didn't Maldol make a smart-charger?

Back on topic, maybe someone can post some good BEAMSHOTS. My L1D is a smooth reflector, and my L2d is a textured reflector. I personally prefer the textured reflector for a softer transition from spot to flood, but many people believe the smooth reflector give a longer throw.

I tried to take a beamshot photo in my house, but I don't have any big empty walls.

-- Frank

 

[LED-holic]

Thanks again to everyone for the helpful information.

Beam shots of the L1D vs L2D would be very interesting and helpful. If anyone has them as comparisons that would be awesome.

For those who have the L1D and E01 or L0D, do you find the L1D to be much bigger than the E01 or L0D? Another reason I was thinking L2D instead of L1D is because if I have the E01 it may negate the need of having a 1AA light.

Thanks again.