please recommend a light for wooded area search and rescue

Samy

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I think you'd be happy with something around the $60-$70 range in 2xAA format. I have a couple of lights made by Fenix, 4Sevens etc that have multiple modes (great for saving power when you don't need max lumens) use common AA's and have long lasting runtimes.

My dad used to be heavily involved in search and rescue and is now involved in state and national disaster relief work and i gave him a Quark Tactical 2xAA last year and he loves it. Nice floody beam, super bright and long runtimes. He always has it near to hand.

I live on acreage and my backyard is quite thick and bushy. When searching my backyard i tend to use a lower flood beam light in one hand (zebralight SC51 or 600) or a zebralight headlight to light my immediate path and in the other hand a powerful flood (Klarus XT20) or spot (Fenix TK41) to briefly light up an area in front of me or in the distance. Don't forget to carry spare batteries!

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Thanks again to those with greater knowledge than me. Some one once told me to buy the best tools or hunting equipment. that I could afford, and that I would never say... "gee I should have bought"... I can afford $200 on anything that I want.

$200 on a flashlight is inconceivable to me, unless it might save someone's life. I decided to follow TEEJ's recommendation and buy a Thrunite TN30.

In particular I want to thank TMedina for all his support (my original budget was within $50) his recomendations got me to $100 and then I ended up getting to $170 hmm please don't tell my wife. :rolleyes:

This was somewhat of an impulse buy in that I didn't do a lot of comparison of $150-200 lights, but it seems that the Thrunite is a solid manufacturer.

My next question is... it takes... 18650 batteries
which battery and
which charger is recommended?

The 3400 mah cells, say eagletac's for example, give a LOT more run time....and tend to fit in most of the lights that take 18650's.

18650's have a lot more runtime than RCR123's for example...and I know the TN30 will kickass for you on searches.

I like the Xtar WP6 II charger, as it can charge 6 18650's at a time, following the recommend algorithms and termination procedures (Reviewed and recommended on this forum). It can also do other lithium ion sizes, which is very handy.
 

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Thanks for pointing to the Xtar WP6 II charger, I really like the fact that it can use a car's cigar lighter as a power source. Also if I understand it correctly, one can charge batteries of different capacities at the same time, and it won't puke.
 

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I like the Panasonic NCRB18650 battery, it has 3400mAh capacity and will fit in the light. They are significantly cheaper than a lot of the other batteries at the same capacity. The NCRA18650 would be a better choice if you plan on buying 6 though as the capacity isn't that much lower than the B model, and the price is a lot better. They are all expensive though and 6 may be a little much.
 

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hehehe... I've got a headache! :) Trying to read comparison charts for various batteries and figuring out how to read them.

Earlier today I ordered the Xtar WP6 II charger and three EagleTac Protected 18650 3400 mAh Rechargeable 3.7V Li-Ion Batteries from one of the advertisers on the site going gear. They offer coupons, and I discovered that they give a discount to members here if you know the code. ggcpf10 got me a 10% discount. whoohoo! :)

I could have gotten batteries of different brands a few dollars cheaper, but being a noobe, it'd be my luck that they wouldn't fit my flashlight. So it looks like I am going to have a set of batteries all charged up waiting for my TN 30 to arrive.

When I see them significantly cheaper, I wonder about the quality. Not that paying more means that they are better. I passed on an ebayer with some panasonic 3400's at 23.99 a pair. But the outside label didn't say panasonic on it, so who knows?

I am going to need three more batteries, maybe six for spares, is there a list of reputable sellers on site?
 

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The panasonic batteries were developed for laptops so they do not have a label a lot of the time. The ones you are talking about were probably directly from a mass of batteries intended for just that purpose and did not have individual protection circuits. You will be happy with the batteries that you chose, they will work great.
 

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Those 3400 mah Eagletacs are great, and they seem to fit most 18650 lights no problem. Some of the other brands of 3400 mah 18650's are too large to fit some lights, and people have had to get the Eagletacs for those lights, etc.

In case it wasn't clear, all the 18650's are MADE initially by a mass producer such as Panasonic....and then OTHER companies put their own label, protection equipment, and wrappers on them.

SOME of the companies take any old used laptop 18650, slap on a label that doubles or even triples the capacity the cell might have had new...and maybe protection that works, or doesn't....and resell it as a new cell, etc...the -----Fires et al typically.

Some even pretend to be another brand. There are a lot (A LOT) of knock-offs that SAY they are a trusted brand...but they just mimic the labeling.

Sometimes they are easy to spot...as they do a bad job on the imitation (Shore Fire, Shure Fire, Shore Fire or Fyer, etc...misspellings like Panisonic, etc), and sometimes they just get crazy on performance claims...like the real cells are 2900 -3400 mah, and theirs say 8,000 mah, etc.


That's the main reason we try to stick to retailers who have a track record of using fresh new cells, functioning protection, etc. Going Gear is great too...watch their HUGE collection of videos on youtube comparing lights...HOURS of entertainment/flashlight porn.

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I am a mountain SAR volunteer. FYI, I was using an Olight M31 until it broke. Ended up getting a TN31a few weeks ago for my uses here in New Mexico. Use Eagletac 3100s. Since I got it have not been called out on missions.

But in test walks this thing is a throw animal. So far so good. Really considered the TN30 but for my intended uses I needed more throw.

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For SAR, definitely the SR95S-UT.

Well, he is in wooded areas...so, a tight beam with 225k cd might be a bit glaring...and like trying to search "through a paper towel tube view" at the shorter ranges involved.

For the mountain guy, maybe, if he has 1/2 mile lines of sight, etc....but the woods guy is typically going to get better results with a floody beam...to see more at a time at closer ranges.

Where I am, long range is vital some of the time, and flood is vital some of the time, so I have to have both types.

I saw your great review on the SR95S UT though, and it is a beast. :D
 

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Well, he is in wooded areas...so, a tight beam with 225k cd might be a bit glaring...and like trying to search "through a paper towel tube view" at the shorter ranges involved.

For the mountain guy, maybe, if he has 1/2 mile lines of sight, etc....but the woods guy is typically going to get better results with a floody beam...to see more at a time at closer ranges.

Where I am, long range is vital some of the time, and flood is vital some of the time, so I have to have both types.

I saw your great review on the SR95S UT though, and it is a beast. :D

Thanks, I guess I imagined the wrong scenario in my head:D

In that case though, I guess a black shadow terminator, it's really floody and has 45K lux
 

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Wow, it's a Christmas miracle! You guys successfully guided our new member straight from a Mag Light to a TN30 without all the time and money of acquiring lesser lights in between.
TN30 has got to be one of the best and most versatile of lights for searching at that price, I look forward to getting one of those sometime too, or a TN31 after saabluster lays hands on it and adds extra magic smoke.
 
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Lol... Yes it is a miracle :)

My TN30 should arrive tomorrow. I can't believe that I have been awaiting its arrival with so much anticipation!

That Black Shadow Terminator also looks like a great light. I'm glad that I didn't do too much research into the higher end lights, because once they get to be so good, you end up splitting hairs, and one can put himself into a position of indecision.

Can't wait until tomorrow!
 

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Yahoo! Tomorrow is here today, and my light came in the mail.

You guys know your stuff! I had to wait until dark to play in the woods, and this light is everything I hoped it would be. We have a couple of inches of snow on the ground, and so it wasn't a fair test to see how good this light is, with all the relection off of the snow it lit up the area like daylight even at the lower settings. I took it to my development's detention pond and it throws usable light for farther than I can see clearly without the aid of binoculars.

I want to thank all involved who helped me make this decision. I almost can't believe that I spent about $250 on a flashlight with batteries and a charger, and I still need spare batteries (another $60). OTOH, I am so tickled with this light, I'm like a kid with a new toy!

I don't know what kind of equipment the guys on the county team carry, but I'd be willing to bet that this will set the standard for the local CERT team.

TEEJ, I noted in this thread or another that you mentioned that you carry two lights, a flood, and a thrower, I'm going to want to carry a back up light, and the mag is pitiful in comparison, do you have a suggestion?
 
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