Possible new lathe. What do ya think?

[Mirage_Man]

New lathe on it's way. What do ya think?

I've been saving for a new lathe and this is the one I have my eye on. It's identical in every way to a Clausing or Harrison M300 Tool room lathe. In fact it's made in the same factory. I've searched and searched for an American lathe in good condition but it's nearly impossible in my area. Anyway, what do you think? The pictures show a combination of a Clausing and the one I'm thinking of getting a Precision Matthews. Again they are identical except for the paint and the compound will have a t-slot rather than the post that the other does. The pictures show a metric machine mine would be an English model.

 

[Anglepoise]

Spindle through hole diameter.......????

 

[Mirage_Man]

Spindle through hole diameter.......????

It's 1+9/16"

Here are the specs...


Machine Standard Features and Equipment:

·ISO 9002 Certified Manufacture
·High Maximum 2500 RPM Spindle Speed
·Large Spindle Bore 1 9/16"
·Heavy Duty Camlock Spindle D1-4
·Heavy Duty Precision Guide Ways Hardened and Ground
·Heavy Duty Main Motor, 2.2 KW, True 3HP
·12 Spindle Speeds, Low 40 RPM High 2500 RPM – Best range in its class
·Machine Cuts Inch Threads and Metric Threads
·Threading and Feed Rate Change is Done Without Changing Gears, and minimal change is required for threading (only very coarse to very fine threads need a change)
·Spindle is Balanced, Hardened and Precision Ground
·Spindle is Supported by High Precision Tapered Roller Spindle Bearings
·All Gears and Shafts are Hardened and Precision Ground
·Guideways Induction Hardened and Precision Ground
·Automatic Lubrication System in Headstock and Feed Box
·Machine Made with Inch Leadscrews (main screw 4 TPI)
·2 Year Warranty on Parts on machine

[FONT=&quot]Specifications: [/FONT]


Model #PM-1340T

Max. Swing Over Bed 13"
Max. Length of Work Piece 40"
Max. Swing Over Cross Slide 8-1/4"
Max. Swing in Gap 19"
Width of Bed 8-1/2"
Spindle Bore 1-9/16 , D1-4
Taper of Spindle Center M.T.# 5
Spindle Speeds 40-2500 rpm / 12 steps
Feeds (Inches per revolution) 0.001-0.080 IPR, 36 kinds
Inch Threads 2-56 TPI
Metric Threads 0.2-14 mm
Max. Travel of Top Slide 3-1/2"
Max. Travel of Cross Slide 7-1/2"
Diameter of Tailstock Quill 1 5/8"
Max. Travel of Tailstock Quill 4-5/16"
Taper of Tailstock Quill Center M.T. # 3

Main Motor 3 HP, 220V, 3 phase
Coolant Pump Motor 1/8 HP, 220V, 3 phase
Net Weight, approx. (w/o accessories) 1745 LBS
Overall Dimensions, LxWxH 81" x 38" x 55"






Standard Equipment (free) for precision Lathe Model # PM-1325T & 1340T:

·Wedge Type Quick Change Tool Post Set with 5 Holders
·6" 3-Jaw Chuck with Set Reversible Jaws
·8" 4-Jaw Chuck with Set Reversible Jaws
·12" Face Plate
·Steady Rest
·Follow Rest
·Removable Gap
·Foot Brake
·Halogen Work Light
·Coolant System
·Full Length Splash Guard
·(2) Dead Centers
·(1) Reducing Sleeve
·Thread Chasing Dial

 

[Anglepoise]

Specs look very nice.

 

[SafetyBob]

Brian, ask the company you are buying it from if they can give you a couple of customer's names and phone numbers so you can ask "real" machine people how they like this exact lathe; if they think it would be good for you, and just the overall impression of the lathe.

From what I can see, looks pretty good. Yes, it would be VERY nice to have a new lathe too. Been thinking about it myself, but that would mean I might have to get really serious about making something for money to hopefully offset the cost (something like fun and work put together). You know, like you are starting to do now!!

Critical thinking also leads me to bore size. I like my D1-6 size, haven't been limited by that as I recall. I know tool room like will generally be small so if you can live with that, then OK. I just measured my D sized flashlights, just barely enough room to stick a D M@g into it.....

Lastly, I am most concerned with electrical. Find out who makes those motors. That would be one of my first questions for a machine shop user with this lathe....any problems with those motors? I think my GE 5 HP 3 Phase motor I have in my lathe was old when I got the lathe....call me stupid, but I haven't even looked at the stupid thing in......13 years. And it replaced the cheap China motor that was in it from 1980 probably around '85.

I also like the plastic chip guard/splash shield versus that metal one on the first picture.

Overall, looks like a very nice machine that should serve you well. You will love that coolant pump, the nice shield to keep the chips and junk from slinging against your wall like now, and NOT having to compensate for using a heavily worn machine (like we are doing now).

Gotta ask, you getting this around the Tampa area or have you found something that the rest of us need to be alerted to?

Bob E.

 

[Mirage_Man]

Bob, I will ask to get some names and numbers. That's a good idea.

Yeah I am doing what I have been specifically to fund the new lathe purchase.

While it would be nice to have a larger bore size than 1+9/16" I would have to jump up considerably in price. Most of what I do is with the smaller diameter stuff so it shouldn't be an issue.

The motor? That's a good question. The machine has a two yr. warranty so hopefully any issues would show up in that time. If I have to replace it in 5 yrs. so be it.

This is something that will be shipped to me. The only local guys sell junk and or really expensive stuff. Not to mention having to pay tax on top of shipping!

 

[Mirage_Man]

Here's a cool video I found centered around a Harrison M300 which is the same machine. If you're using IE right click and save it to your desktop so you can watch it a little larger.

 

[gadget_lover]

Once again, I'm envious.

Let us know how you like it.

Daniel

 

[Mirage_Man]

Once again, I'm envious.

Let us know how you like it.

Daniel

Well I haven't jumped yet. I still have quite a few more pennies to save before I can afford something like this. Also if a cream puff piece of American iron presents itself between now and then that's affordable I may go that route. We'll see.

 

[wquiles]

Here's a cool video I found centered around a Harrison M300 which is the same machine. If you're using IE right click and save it to your desktop so you can watch it a little larger.

GREAT video. Not only about your possible new lathe (really nice by the way! - how much is it?), but also as a starting video for "anyone" about to use a lathe. Everything except using a file on a moving chuck at the end, is spot-on safe and proper

Will

 

[TranquillityBase]

Good lathe me want too

 

[wquiles]

Here is an old one from the 80's or sale:
http://www.emachinetool.com/used/catalog/single.cfm?DestinationCategory=Engine%20Lathe&ProductID=13249

Will

 

[Mirage_Man]

Here is an old one from the 80's or sale:
http://www.emachinetool.com/used/catalog/single.cfm?DestinationCategory=Engine Lathe&ProductID=13249

Will

Dude, a brand new one ain't much more than that. That's one of the reasons I'm leaning towards a new machine. The used machinery dealers are outta their freak'in minds in the way they price even worn out hunks of steam'in doo..

 

[wquiles]

Gotcha - new one it is. That is a very nice machine for sure

Will

 

[PEU]

Here's a cool video I found centered around a Harrison M300 which is the same machine. If you're using IE right click and save it to your desktop so you can watch it a little larger.

Very good video even if you arent after that lathe

Last week I visited a machining expo here in Buenos Aires, this same lathe w/different brand was around $5000+taxes (10.5%)

Good luck!


Pablo

 

[Mirage_Man]

Very good video even if you arent after that lathe

Last week I visited a machining expo here in Buenos Aires, this same lathe w/different brand was around $5000+taxes (10.5%)

Good luck!


Pablo

What brand was that? Is that dollars?

 

[PEU]

What brand was that? Is that dollars?

This one (WM330) was u$d4500+tax if I recall correctly, if you want the exact price I can make a few calls http://weiss-europe.nl/product/25-lathe.html

it looks the same as the model you posted. There were plenty of similar models


Pablo

 

[Mirage_Man]

This one (WM330) was u$d4500+tax if I recall correctly, if you want the exact price I can make a few calls http://weiss-europe.nl/product/25-lathe.html

it looks the same as the model you posted. There were plenty of similar models


Pablo

Pablo,

I looked at the link you sent but as far as I can tell those aren't really the same animal. The specs are completely different. TBH those look like the Chinese imports that everyone like Enco, MSC etc.. are selling.

 

[PEU]

Ah, I tought that the lathe you were showing was chinese Different beasts?


Pablo

 

[Mirage_Man]

Ah, I tought that the lathe you were showing was chinese Different beasts?


Pablo

It is made in China but it's the same as a Clausing Colchester or Harrison not your typical Chinese garbage. Clausing moved their production there a few years ago. Just because it's made in China does not necessarily mean it's automatically junk. The Clausing and Harrison list for around $10K.

Here are links to the Clausing/Harrisson website showing each variation of the same machine.

The Clausing and the Harrison.