Sold/Expired Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III. ENDED!

[ARC mania]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

Happy New Year to all!!!!!!

Yes, the switch in the re-designed tailcap is a McClicky. I chose this switch because it has a louder clicking noise (compared to the current switch.) has a longer stroke and can handle a lot of current. The so called "King's Crown" version tailcap uses the old Kroll switch. This switch tends to melt under-load, does not work well with multi function converters and I've hand lots of problems with it in high powered lights. Once the switch is pressed, it seems to have a tactical mode but when pushed until it clicks, the light will go out and when released, the light will be in the next mode. What we want here is a switch that works plus handle the current of high discharge 18650's. The old "King's Crown" tailcap can not be made to use the McClicky or my original custom switch. Also the redesigned tailcap can not be made to the newer SF-III due to the width of the threaded portion of the tailcap.

Another thing I have to mention is that if the black SF-III is made with the old 3pc design, using the McClicky switch, in order to use 18650's, you would have to unscrew the head to insert the battery. If you use CR123's or RCR123's, you can just remove the tailcap to insert the batteries. I hope everyone understands. There are lots of details involved in building this light with some on the inside being pretty critical or this light just doesn't work out.

The reason I chose to go with HA III black for this limited run is not to worry about mis-match. In the past I've gone through hell and back with natural as there were always only a 60 to 70% chance of matching. Plus, I am doing this because in the history of the SF-III, HA III black was never made.

If all agrees to the 3pc design, you will be able to play lego with the older first generation SF-III 🙂

I plan to set the cut-off date on the 11th of January and will put this on the first post.

Here are some pictures of a pimped out older SF-III for your enjoyment. The two reflectors: one on the left is for flood beam and the one on the right is for a spot beam. I can offer both reflectors. You can change them to your liking.

ARC mania

 

[E-J-J]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

:twothumbs It is very cool.

:twothumbs It is attractive terrible shape.

:twothumbs It is a really attractive light.

Happy new year. lovecpf

 

[Olaf_S]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

Hi Mike,

i do not know, if i understoood your last post correct.

Is the tailcap shown on your last pictures in post #61 the only tailcap you will make ??

I have no problems with the new tailcap, you made with the actual natural "new" SF-III.
Handling for me is perfect and also the design is very well.


So

i want my black one with this "new" tailcap (from the last SF-III run - in black)

and

i understand it as a option, to get one extra tailcap with another design (pictures #61) to choise and change the tailcaps with the light.
Correct so ??

*****************

If i can order one as a extra, it will be o.K. for me.
But my first choise beetween the "new" tailcap and the tailcap from pictures #61 - i do like (compellingly) the little "new" one from the actual SF-III.
The tailcap for those, with tender man hands 😀

Greetings
Olaf

 

[TranquillityBase]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

Happy New Year to all!!!!!!


Another thing I have to mention is that if the black SF-III is made with the old 3pc design, using the McClicky switch, in order to use 18650's, you would have to unscrew the head to insert the battery. If you use CR123's or RCR123's, you can just remove the tailcap to insert the batteries. I hope everyone understands. There are lots of details involved in building this light with some on the inside being pretty critical or this light just doesn't work out.

The reason I chose to go with HA III black for this limited run is not to worry about mis-match. In the past I've gone through hell and back with natural as there were always only a 60 to 70% chance of matching. Plus, I am doing this because in the history of the SF-III, HA III black was never made.

If all agrees to the 3pc design, you will be able to play lego with the older first generation SF-III 🙂

I plan to set the cut-off date on the 11th of January and will put this on the first post.

Happy New Year to you too

Mike, going back to the original three piece design sounds great!

If the barrel was made separate from the head there would have been conductivity issues, a bad thermal pathway causing a shutdown during usage and would lead to a much higher percentage of mismatch in anodizing.

Have you solved the conductivity, and thermal pathway issues?

 

[ArsMachina]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

Mike,

going back to the old three piece design is a very good idea!

Will you also go back to the old, smooth knurling, as those pictures are showing???

Jochen

 

[Elakazam]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

Hey Mike,

I´m a little bit confused:

will the "old 3pc design" for the new + upcoming, black SFIII have the the same dimensions like the older, larger, original SFIII?

Or will it be smaller sized, like the actual SFIII from the last run?

🙂

Thanks!

 

[karlthev]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.






Karl

 

[GhostReaction]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

ok now I m confused to what I ll be getting for this HAIII black SFIII.

The anti-roll tailcap works like a charm for what they supposed too.
But if it could have BOTH the anti-roll AND the 'king crown' cut out slots it will truly be a one off special edition 🙂

The 'King Crown' tailcap is and have always been the signature of the SFIII.
without the cut out at tail cap the SFIII looks err.. different.

Mike, the Black HA that you ll be doing for this special run will it be matt black or glossy?
I m really hoping for ROUGH grit black HA III, very tactical feel and look. One that I could take for special ops ninja commando mission.

 

[Flyhigh]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

The two reflectors: one on the left is for flood beam and the one on the right is for a spot beam. I can offer both reflectors. You can change them to your liking.

ARC mania

Hi Mike,

I've just recieved a SF-III from the latest run, it's a wonderful light and I will surely be buying more of your lights, funds permitting.

I'm wondering if you will be selling the reflectors, new tailcaps and Ti bezels seperately and if they'll fit the latest run, the OD one?

Cheers

K

 

[ARC mania]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

Give me 24 hours to post answers to all your questions. I'm trying to recover from not getting enough sleep from getting all the earlier SF-III's out the door plus getting together with the inlaws......🙁 Just not enough hours in a day.........

ARC mania

 

[delboy]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

I dont have a problem with 3 piece design ,however i do not like the new tailcap (anti-roll ) :sigh:

In my opinion it may look ok on normal SF-III but on combat grip it is horrible .

Can the people who ordered this LE black version order both reflectors ?

Del

 

[ARC mania]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

I am going with the older 3pc design on both combat and standard grip SF-III's. The dimensions will be the same as well. I will be able to offer both tailcaps for the combat grip, just need to know which one. Please post on this thread if you have already pre-paid. A bit of bad news is that the old king's crown tailcap can not be made for the standard grip unless a Kroll switch is used. The problem with this switch is that the thin spring inside is like a hotwire filament, too much current and it melts the plastic threaded area. Also, this switch does not work with multi function lights. So I will only offer the anti roll switch. The other bit of bad news is that by going with the 3pc design, TNC is asking for $30.00 more per light so the best I can do is cover half this amount so the SF-III will be $15.00 more. Pre-payer's need not to worry. To all on the list, let me know if this design change is OK so I can proceed.

Yes, I will offer both reflectors. If you need a spare reflector, narrow or wide angle, the price will be $10.00. I will offer titanium bezels, just don't have a price yet, which will also fit the latest run. I will make a few spare tailcaps but they will be HA III black and will only fit the older 3pc SF-III's. If you need a BA, that will be possible. Please understand that I can't do a small run of only 3 or 5pcs as there is a MOQ for the ano plus natural or OD is extremely difficult to match.

I apologize I haven't caught up with all PM's but am getting there.

ARC mania

 

[delboy]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

ok now im really confused .......

Does 3pc design mean that they are going to be longer than the last run and if so by how much ? as i liked the short light .

i have preordered a combat grip and i dont like the new square tailcap so whatever the other is and im hoping its similar to last run tailcap(combat)

i also thought titanium bezel was included for this limited edition run ,

Del

 

[Henk_Lu]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

I'm confused as well... :duh2:

I simply want my light as good as possible! That must be easy for the maker I think and best for me!

Spare reflector? I wouldn't use it, I need the best one for the Ostar 15W installed. Best means a universal beam, which will probably be achieved by the standard one, I fear the one for flood will make a Mega-Mule out of the SF-III... :candle:

I also understood a titanium bezel is installed reading the first post. I would perhaps want such a bezel for my last run light, if it has the same inscriptions like the standard bezel has.

 

[blitzlicht65]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

The same here - Confusion.:thinking:

What is available?

1.) Combat body with anti-roll tailcap
2.) Combat body with standard tailcap (like these from the last SF III-run)
3.) Standard body with anti-roll tailcap
4.) Standard body with standard tailcap

The old Kings Crown is not available for both bodys?

The newest run (black SF III's) have titanium bezels?

Is this so right?

 

[Elakazam]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

...another and yet another...confusion all over the place!

...and another try: which dimensions will the new SFIII-light have:

A.) larger, old, original, SFIII style size?

or

B.) shorter, newer, like the last SFIII-run size?

Thanks in advance!

 

[ArsMachina]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

And what about the knurling?
Old style or new style?

Will the HAIII black SF-III look exactly like the old SF III except it will be black and has another switch ?

Jochen

 

[delboy]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

i am starting to sorta wish i hadnt pre ordered this light as,

it looks like it may be bigger than the version i ordered it from (last run but black)

i really do NOT like the new style tailcap at all .

it was suppose to have a titanium bezel that was engraved not lazer this time.

i was happy with it being the same as last run but black/ti bezel .....anything else and it wont be the light i preordered 😡

Del

 

[ledcarry]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

I am also not pleased with the way this light is changing into a different design. I was going to try and get in on this final run too. I wanted one just like the last run only in black with engraved titanium bezel. But now, with the longer light and different tailcap, it's just not going to work for me. I will just keep my last run model in olive drab HA III.


JM

 

[AaronM]

Re: Pre-payment for the HAIII black SF-III.

For those who prepaid, don't like the the design changes to this black SF-III and would rather have a short non-combat grip SF-III in HA-III natural finish with Ostar SMT: Contact me to see if we can work something out.

My light will come with the stock aluminum bezel, but you can keep your crenelated Ti bezel as I have a smooth Ti bezel I would rather use.