Princeton Tec: Rage and Blast Review

kb0rrg

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The forums are dominated by SureFire lights, so I would like to take a minute and review a couple of non-SureFire lights for those of us who have yet to get one (I am soon to make my move though), or for those who can still find a use for a "regular" light in our lives.

The Princeton Tec, Rage and Blast are really the same lights and have similar construction, features and performance with the exception that the Rage uses 4AAA while the Blast uses 2AAA. The only other difference is that the Blast has a clip on the side. Both are waterproof to 2000ft or something…past 300ft and I don't care anymore, I won't be alive to notice
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. Needless to say the design is clean and simple. On the down side, the bulbs appear to be very specialized and almost the same price as the light. I guess it is easier to just get a new one when it goes, but that is not how I like to do things. I get a little attached to my lights
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The beam quality on both is good, no ring or wedges, just a little blotchy. Both require 2 hands to turn on and off.

Blast. ($8-12) This has 2 AAA side by side. This can't quite keep up with my 2AA mag with a nextstar bulb in terms of power, but is very close. It is non-focusable with a generally wide beam and a hot center. It carries easily in my pocket everyday. It has a clip in the side, which I find to be useless. It won't fit on a belt (at least securely) and the light is too short for "spyderco style" carrying. It is more comfortable to hold in the mouth than a mini-mag due to the plastic case and the flat sides (I love headlamps and I hate biting lights, but sometimes you got to do it).

Rage: ($15-20) I love this light. This uses a 2 x 2 configuration for the AAA's. It is very bright. While on one of my "flashlight walks" in the woods I attracted the attention of a couple of officers. While we were "discussing" my situation, I was also paying close attention to their SL Stingers. I can honestly say that my Rage held its own against a light 3x more expensive (not sure about the state of their charge though). The singer could probably beat the Rage, but it was much closer than I was expecting. I was tempted to ask for a head to head comparison, but I just wasn't a good time
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. It can't quite keep up with my 3D mag with a xenon bulb for brightness. It is non-focusable with a generally wide beam and a hot center. This light could really use the clip that is on the Blast. I carry it on my belt in a holster. This is the one I use when I really gota light stuff up and I don't have my 3D. This is my first non-focusable light and I was not sure if I was going to like that feature. I have to say that the focus is nice, but I rarely miss it.

Both lights have a bit of trouble in fog or smoke since they really light up the particles and reduce the visibility. I figure this is due to their wider beams. The SL Pro-polymer 2AA ( a review soon ) was not nearly as affected, but it has a very tight beam.
 
thanks for the review kb0rrg. What do you think about the tec40 ? How is it in comparison to the sl propoly 4aa / UKE 4aa ?
I cant await your review of the sl 2aa. (i have 2 of them!).
 
yeh i also can't wait to see how it would compare to the tec 40 ans 4aa/2L
 
Sorry, I don't have any 4AA lights to compare with. I do have a new SL propoly 2AA that I will review soon.
 
I was afraid that that might cause confusion. Spyderco is a brand of folding knife that invented a clip on the side so that it could be carried in the front pocket, with the clip on the outside. It keeps the knife safely inside the pocket, but keep it from dropping into the bottom of the pocket. This method has beens frequently coppied by other knife makers. It seem like it would work good for lights too. I don't have any SF's (yet) but it looks like the E2 or D2 would work with is method. maybe someone else can explain it better.
 
Comments regarding the Princeton Tec Blast...
I like this light. I don't own a Rage. The Blast never use to have a clip on it. My old one's don't have any. My new Blast has the clip and I find it annoying to hold now since I am so used to the older ones without them. Agreed the clip is no good for carrying on your belt but...slide it onto the front of the brim of your baseball cap and it stays in place real well acting as a headlamp. I don't know if that was Princeton Tec's intention for the clip but it is the only real use for it that I have found. I have found that the beam quality is very even with very few dark spots. It is smoother and more spread out with a larger area of light than the pen light types such as the UKE 2 AAA (another one of my favorites)because it gives a wider more even display of light that is more useable.

I too am a surefire fan. Nothing beats those lights as long as you are willing to pay for the quality up front for the light and for the batteries it uses. I have not yet bought a Surefire E1 for $40+ dollars because of the Blast. The Blast is waterproof, inexpensive and easily replaceable. Batteries are inexpensive and available everywhere. I have bought several bulbs for mine and you are right they cost half as much as a new light. Brightness is good with fresh batteries but dims off quite bit around the half life. But that is the beauty of the Blast...just replace the inexpensive AAA batteries often and you have a great bright light.

As for the Stinger flashlights the officers had (as well as Surefire 8 series)...I have them as well. I have used them extensively for years. They are really in a different class than your Rage. If you are going to use a light all night day after day, the rechargable flashlights are the only way to go. You can't match them for size, brightness and economy. Also, it can be carried comfortably on their belts riding unobtrusively with all that other stuff they have to carry until it is needed. You can't do that with a 3D mag! ( Note: Have a regular C or D battery powered light as a backup as a minimum.) The Officers would go through a set of batteries every night/two days in your Rage and not get the performance.

For your first Surefire light for occasional use I would recommend the new E2 to start you off. (You'll probably end up with more once you get hooked!) Smaller than your rage and the output is AWESOME!
 
kb0rrg: i dont have any PrincetonTecs yet, but i have the Streamlight proPoly 2aa. How would you describe the beam quality of the Rage in comparison to the ProPoly 2aa ?
 
They are not really comparable. The PT Rage is a much wider beam while the SL ProPoly 2AA is very tight. The rage has good room filling ability. The PT is not so good in fog or smoke. The SL 2AA's tighter beam doesn't light up the particales of smoke/fog/dust in front of your face.

The SL 2AA might be able to see further, but I'm not 100% sure that is true. The overall output of the rage is far greater than the SL 2AA.

The Rage seems ot have a smoother beam, but again, the beams are so different that they are really incomparable.

IMO the SL PP 2AA is too tight 90% of the time. The Princeton Tec it the right focus 90% of the time. A little tighter would be nice.
 
could any that have the Sl4aa,rage and tec40
do a little review or take a shot on the different beams of it??
 
Form the website,
Blast : 1W (watt)
Rage : 2W
Tec 20: 2W
Tec 40 : 4W

does it mean that the rage give off as much light as the tec 20??
and Tec 40 twice the output??
hoe abt uke 4aa???
how much light do u think it will give out??
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spidey82:
Form the website,
Blast : 1W (watt)
Rage : 2W
Tec 20: 2W
Tec 40 : 4W

does it mean that the rage give off as much light as the tec 20??
and Tec 40 twice the output??
hoe abt uke 4aa???
how much light do u think it will give out??
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4W on AA batteries
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I think it could maintain its full brightness only for less than 15 minutes of continuous use. May be lithium or rechargable could help.

Alan Chan
 
Photo shots of 4AA flashlights. I hope this gives an idea on how bright flashlights are.

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20 feet from the door
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the beam of the uke4aa is at first impressive, but if i flashlight is used to illuminate things 20-30 or more meters away, i my opinion the streamlight 4aa is maybe better. i know empirical from the propoly 2aa that the beam reaches very far (ca. 40-60 meters). my propoly 2aa is now 4 months old and i can't say how durable it is. The Reflector Unit of the uke4aa
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seems more durable then that of the propoly 2aa/4aa. the batteries in the 2aa rattle a lot, more than in a minimag.
 
just got my rage todae.
nice little light.
Like the feel of it as it is flat and have a dent in the body for comfort.
the light output is rather ok.
close range is fine..
today finally saw an E1 wow its small
E2 should be a battery longer rite??
now i am tempted.
 
The streamlight scorpion looks way better to me. Tremendous light output. Just way more lumens. I was planning on a scorpion for a bikelight backup (and an E-2/beam spreader and an M-2 for grins). I think my selection is good. Now which has better sidelight. A P-60 surefire with a regular bezel, a big deep bezel or a turbo bezel or the scorpion.
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Throw back the small beams, keep the big ones.

StJoe the biker
 
stjoe since the Scorpion can be changed from spot to flood, it might be the best choice, as long as the lamp holds up. It is also the cheapest. Worth a shot anyway.

Brock
 
As much as we like small lights in the SF form why mess with such an expensive option to operate. If you want a light to use on your travels on the bike why not opt for a rechargeable?
 
2d - Nice photos - with the Tec 40 - you should really show the beam with the wide beam reflector - you have the narrow beam in the photo. With the wide beam - you won't beleive it! I think that they are coming standard with the wide beam now rather than the narrow.
 
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