Ra Clicky (HDS Systems EDC) - Part 10

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zenlunatic said:
Guys.

I have a Ra Clicky 120 lumen (older) with a flush tail.

I'm planning on ordering a high CRI sometime this month. I do like the flush tail. However, if I go for the raised tail, if I don't like it, can I take the flush from the older and replace the raised on the CRI?
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u can switch battery tubes, so yes. IIRC, the older model ( I have an older flush compartment) cannot be unscrewed. I have a newer tactical button tube that I interchange regularly.🙂

Also, does the raised work so you can partially press and it will have a momentary on until you release (believe this is called forward clicky?) without clicking?

Thanks.
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yes, you have to enable the momentary function regardless of type of button.:wave:
 
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I think I learned something new today, maybe someone can confirm? All Clicky lights are essentially the same the only difference between them is the LED? True or false?
 
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That depends on what context you meant by "same". If you are looking at stock form from HDS then you have the tactical version and the executive version with different interface programmed in it but generally they are the same. Tactical could be programmed like the executive and vice versa. In this regards, I would say they are the same with the emitters being the only difference. Then there are the different bezel and lens materials coupled with either a flushed or protruding tail cap which makes them different. From what I see, the only similarity from light to light is the circuit board and even then it is calibrated based on the efficiency of individual emitters.

So yes, generally they are the same if what you meant was the circuit board allowing you to program the light anyway you want it, tactical to executive and vice versa.
 
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I ran the 170cn at the 85lm setting using a primary Duracell 123.
The battery was pretty new, used a bit in a surefire for testing but for the most part good.
I got 2 hrs 21 minutes before it stepped down a level. It was left on overnight and when checked the next day it was on the lowest level. I don't know how long it lasted at the levels between 60lm and 0.08lm but the light was still on 24 hrs later (granted it was so low I would find that level unusable).
 
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pjandyho said:
That depends on what context you meant by "same". If you are looking at stock form from HDS then you have the tactical version and the executive version with different interface programmed in it but generally they are the same. Tactical could be programmed like the executive and vice versa. In this regards, I would say they are the same with the emitters being the only difference. Then there are the different bezel and lens materials coupled with either a flushed or protruding tail cap which makes them different. From what I see, the only similarity from light to light is the circuit board and even then it is calibrated based on the efficiency of individual emitters.

So yes, generally they are the same if what you meant was the circuit board allowing you to program the light anyway you want it, tactical to executive and vice versa.
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By same I mean if you take a Clicky 120, Clicky 170 or a high CRI Clicky all with executive programming, internally they are the same light just the LED is what would differ correct?
 
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JWRitchie76 said:
By same I mean if you take a Clicky 120, Clicky 170 or a high CRI Clicky all with executive programming, internally they are the same light just the LED is what would differ correct?
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Yes you are right although the 120 lumens version (older version) may be slightly different in the circuitry. I understand Henry did some refinements in the latest version if I recall reading this somewhere. Otherwise it is the same.
 
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Hi Ho! Is it the general consensus that this "new light in August" will be a different design than the Ra Clicky as opposed to an upgraded version of the Clicky? A whole new design or upgraded Twisty would not interest me much but I don't want to buy a Clicky now only to discover I should have waited for the improved one.
 
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pjandyho said:
Yes you are right although the 120 lumens version (older version) may be slightly different in the circuitry. I understand Henry did some refinements in the latest version if I recall reading this somewhere. Otherwise it is the same.
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Thanks. The reason I ask is because I am interested in having Tekno Cowboy mod a Clicky with a warm XPG emitter for me. I was going to order my wife a new Twisty but I think I will just pass my high CRI light on to her and buy a Clicky 120 EDC for this mod based on price. She really does enjoy the high CRI Clicky anyways.

John Frederick said:
Hi Ho! Is it the general consensus that this "new light in August" will be a different design than the Ra Clicky as opposed to an upgraded version of the Clicky? A whole new design or upgraded Twisty would not interest me much but I don't want to buy a Clicky now only to discover I should have waited for the improved one.
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I may be wrong John but from what little has been leaked the new light, if there is one will be a headlamp. Thus it'll probably be smaller and more floody? I believe still using a 123 battery? So the current Clicky and Twisty offerings with be the light of choice for EDC with the headlamp being added to the lineup? But like I said I could very easily be wrong here.
 
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JWRitchie76 said:
All Clicky lights are essentially the same the only difference between them is the LED? True or false?
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Essentially, they are all similar in how they are made. I have three Clickys (140CW, 170CN, 100 High CRI) and they are all different in some way.

The 140's tail cap cannot be removed and the reflector is glued on. It also has a slightly different UI than the newer models (changing brightness settings)

I am able to remove the tail cap from the 170. When I try to remove the bezel, the reflector comes off as well.

On the high CRI light, the reflector is not glued on so it can be easily removed. Also, the rubber button attaches differently to the tail than it does with the 170. (it fits into a groove in the tail cap)
 
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JWRitchie76,

As time goes on, we continue to make small improvements in the design. Inventory considerations do play a part in controlling when each improvement is phased in to any particular model. As a rule, the more expensive models get the upgrades before the less expensive models - which partially justifies the price difference.

So the LED is the obvious difference in the specifications. There are other more subtle differences that may or may not exist on any particular day. 🙂

Henry.
 
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Just placed an order for a 140 narrow, with a black stainless steel bezel and executive programming!

Can't wait for it to get here! It's replacing my HDS EDC B42XR which I've just sold.
 
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HDS_Systems said:
RedBike,

If you read the older posts, you will see you are not the only one with that opinion. Hence the newer clips and several other modder designs. 🙂

Henry.
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Thanks for that, Henry. Doesn't seem like there are any 3rd party vendors at this point. Would be happy to look at the newer HDS clips as a possibility. Are there any photos of them on your site? Couldn't seem to locate any.
 
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redbike said:
Thanks for that, Henry. Doesn't seem like there are any 3rd party vendors at this point. Would be happy to look at the newer HDS clips as a possibility. Are there any photos of them on your site? Couldn't seem to locate any.
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redbike said:
Thanks for that, Norm. Still fugly, and it leaves the screw holes bare, but at least I know what it looks like.
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There's a guy in the marketplace that is giving away set screws that fill the holes. I think you have to pay shipping, which is basically an envelope and stamp. He had to buy them in bulk, couldn't find them in smaller quantities, hence the give-away.
 
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I've been using my edc 120 with the new clip for a few days now, and find it to be a vast improvement over the old one, at least for my bezel down pocket carry needs. The old clip is one of the primary reasons I got rid of my 140. The Ti clips that were offered on BST were nice, but to get to bezel-down, the clip was too thick for my liking. New clip= much better! May have to give the 170 another look now...:grin2: Functional trumps fugly for me, at least in a pocket clip. I kinda liked the Novatac one anyway.
 
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I am *most likely* going to order a 140 tomorrow with the new bezel down clip. I'll have to order a screw set from "dad" in the marketplace...
 
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I would be able so source the blind screws locally - the dimension and pitch were posted in a searchable place. I know I'm gilding the lily here, but what I'm after is a a (somewhat) refined clip that requires screws to attach it. You know, something approximating the beauty of the light itself. "Functional beats fugly" - I like that and agree - surely though the clip deserves at least a portion of the care that went in to designing the light itself. I'll shut up about it now. Thanks, all, for your input 🙂.

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