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tebore said:
It scares me how much you guys are bothered by off centered reflectors/emitter.
I wouldn't call the pictures of the emitters off center they're well within any kind of mass production tolerance. Most importantly it doesn't affect the beam.

Step back and take a look, you have to use very good macro shots under intense magnification to even see the hundreds of a inch of the emitter peeking through the reflector.
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Yeah. I bought a brand new high end car the other day, it was all bumped up. It can't be seen from a small distance though, and most importantly it doesn't affect the performance of the car in any way so I was totally OK with that... 😉 "But, but, the flashlight is a tool!" Ok, ok. I bought a brand new high end truck the other day, it was all.... 😉

tebore said:
You guys kill me and that's why it's so much fun to be here. :crackup:
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I did say I was OCD about this kind of thing didn't I 😛
 
paxxus said:
Yeah. I bought a brand new high end car the other day, it was all bumped up. It can't be seen from a small distance though, and most importantly it doesn't affect the performance of the car in any way so I was totally OK with that... 😉 "But, but, the flashlight is a tool!" Ok, ok. I bought a brand new high end truck the other day, it was all.... 😉


I did say I was OCD about this kind of thing didn't I 😛
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An off center reflector isn't like a bump in a new car it's more like the defroster vent grill in the dash popping up once in a while and you have to pop it back in. It's annoying but doesn't affect any real aspect of function.

^^ True story, my boss has a Jaguar and his vent grill keeps popping up. He brings it in the dealer and they pop it back in for him. It happens a few times and they finally tried some glue. Now that's gotta suck.:ohgeez: Price doesn't determine quality, all those satisfaction reports by Jag owners are proof of that. :crackup:
 
luxlover said:
I am with you there. But know that with the front end arrangement of parts on the Twisty and Clicky, it is very hard to center a reflector around an emitter. The reason is that the reflector is part of the head assembly, and screws into the head from the front. The emiitter is fixed on the light module which is glued to the head from the back.

You may be able to impliment a slight improvement by tightening or loosening ever so slightly onto the head, the assembly that is integral wth the reflector, before threading the SS bezel onto that assembly. The reflector is not an independent part that can be freely rotated and positioned around the reflector, like those on the NovaTac and EDC lights.
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I see. Yes, I was able to center the emitter on my NT by shifting the reflector around before tightening the bezel ring.

I hate to say it, but for some reason I've only seen this problem on more expensive non-china lights. Go figure...
luxlover said:
I will be hoping for you, that your light is to your liking.

Jeff
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Thanks. I think the golden dragon LED will be more forgiving in this regard.
 
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paxxus said:
:duh2::sick2::green:

I admit that I'm totally OCD about off center emitters - it bugs me, BIG time. Hopefully mine will be better in this regard...
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Erm... You guys DID notice the shot is at an angle, not perpendicular to the surface of the emitter, right? You're just pulling SN's leg?
 
orcinus said:
Erm... You guys DID notice the shot is at an angle, not perpendicular to the surface of the emitter, right? You're just pulling SN's leg?
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Hmm... You could be right. My apology if my ramblings were unfounded.. It's that OCD thing - it messes with my brain.. :crazy: :nana:
 
you guys are geeks!!!!!!!!!:ohgeez:

....but seriously can i get a reading of the current draw off of an AW RCR, and some IS numbers......please....please....please....please!!!!! JK:crackup:


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Received my new HDS yesterday.
As always Henrys lights outstanding. Build like a tank. I like extended length, fit very nicely in hand. Seoul in mine have yellow corona over slightly blue hot spot, look like U2, have to be over 100Lm at 350mA. I am not see noticeable difference between Clicky and U2 Seouled HDS60.
Also old HDS clip will fit nicely with little modification.
Enjoy you Ra lights. 🙂

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Russki said:
Received my new HDS yesterday.
As always Henrys lights outstanding. Build like a tank. I like extended length, fit very nicely in hand. Seoul in mine have yellow corona over slightly blue hot spot, look like U2, have to be over 100Lm at 350mA. I am not see noticeable difference between Clicky and U2 Seouled HDS60.
Also old HDS clip will fit nicely with little modification.
Enjoy you Ra lights. 🙂
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Congratulations! I like the way the low profile pan head socket screws blend with the clip and body. Nice choice of hardware.

Don't forget to post in SaturnNyne's Clicky Registry here..... http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2701704#post2701704

The #5326 I see looks like it is a 140C, judging by it's company with the other 140Cs already on the list. Is it?

Jeff

 
DiscoverEDC,

Since there are only 4 presets, the answer has to be no. That said, if you are willing to give up one setting, there are two possible ways. The first way you mentioned, is to enable Momentary and set the turn-on setting (i.e., Force Setting, Primary by default) to be tactical strobe. The second way is to turn on Momentary and set the High setting to tactical strobe. The second way requires a click press and hold to operate but will not interfere with your regular turn-on setting.

LuxLover,

Your discussion on the centering is incorrect. You may want to take a look at the cut-away diagram on the details page to see how parts actually fit together. As Tebore said, there are normal production tolerances and the extremely minor misalignment shown in the photo - which is as bad as it gets and is measured in single digit mils - has no visible affect on the beam. The misalignment is caused by the LED manufacturer's tolerances - which are large compared to the machining tolerances.

Henry.
 
But there really isn't any misalignment in that photo!
Come on, people, am i the only one who can see it's not a straight-on shot? :crazy:

Edit: I'd swear the reflector opening looks elliptical. But maybe it's an optical illusion...
 
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orcinus said:
But there really isn't any misalignment in that photo!
Come on, people, am i the only one who can see it's not a straight-on shot? :crazy:

Edit: I'd swear the reflector opening looks elliptical. But maybe it's an optical illusion...
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Not misaligned enough to matter in the topic of reflector/emitter centering.
 
orcinus said:
But there really isn't any misalignment in that photo!
Come on, people, am i the only one who can see it's not a straight-on shot? :crazy:

Edit: I'd swear the reflector opening looks elliptical. But maybe it's an optical illusion...
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I'm with you Orcinus. When using super macro, the slightest camera angle will manipulate aspects of perception. SaturnNyne just needs to be a little more exacting. :poke::tinfoil:

I'll just say that I'm not worried about an emitter being misaligned in the Clicky. There were no distinct reports of that type of problem with the Twisty, and so I'd say the process for building these lights is well refined.
 
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Enzo Morocioli said:
I'm with you Orcinus. When using super macro, the slightest camera angle will manipulate aspects of perception. SaturnNyne just needs to be a little more exacting. :poke::tinfoil:
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While it is true what you said with super macros. In these cases and pictures and with what the pictures are used to explain, the misalignment and their degree of misalignment do not matter. They show what is present. I'm not saying that the misalignment may or may not be over or under emphasizing the issue.

The pictures just show the issue. The people who are bothered by it will be bothered regardless of the degree of seriousness of the issue.
 
HDS_Systems said:
LuxLover,
Your discussion on the centering is incorrect. You may want to take a look at the cut-away diagram on the details page to see how parts actually fit together. As Tebore said, there are normal production tolerances and the extremely minor misalignment shown in the photo - which is as bad as it gets and is measured in single digit mils - has no visible affect on the beam. The misalignment is caused by the LED manufacturer's tolerances - which are large compared to the machining tolerances.

Henry
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Henry,
I know how they fit together. Did you forget that I am Luxlover, the "Disassembly Kid?" I dismantled the head of my Twisty entirely. The head and light module are the only parts that cannot be separated, since you glued them together.

I am thinking that I have optimized the centering of my reflector around the emitter on the Twisty from it's default factory condition. The only thing I can think of based on the construction of the head, is that the centerline of the reflector's thru-hole is not coincident with the centerline of the reflector's threads. This is a possibility. If this is what has happened, rotating the reflector a little will exhibit a change in the relationship of the reflector to the emitter. This is why I mentioned it to paxxus.

Regardless of my idea, I do agree with you and everybody here who has stated that a small lack of concentricity between reflector and emitter would have no effect on the beam pattern.

Jeff


 
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orcinus said:
But there really isn't any misalignment in that photo!
Come on, people, am I the only one who can see it's not a straight-on shot? :crazy:

Edit: I'd swear the reflector opening looks elliptical. But maybe it's an optical illusion...
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Ante,
It would be impossible to detect an eccentricity in the picture using the emitter as a focal point, unless there was another circular item near it that you know is circular and appears to be elliptical. I have looked at Saturn's image many times, and beside my joking about the color, I see nothing out of the ordinary about it!!!

Like I said in my previous post, it may be that the centerline of the reflector's thru-hole is not coincident with the centerline of the reflector's threads. This is surely a possibility! Since a camera's lens does funny things to objects, it may very well be an optical illusion!

Jeff


 
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