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Serial Numbers are pending:devil:
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What is the difference between 100wwCn and 100wwCE ? I ask because technically mine (#5718 post 245) that I purchased on Feb 3, 2009 is the Executive version as per Henry's email. I was one of the very first to get a Executive of any flavor and any WW purchased directly from Ra after that date should be Executive as well.
One difference with the Executive and Tactical firmware compared to the original Nov08 release that I know of is that it only drops one level at a time when the battery is near exhausted. The original dropped two levels or half the brightness.
I think there is no difference at all except date of purchase and version of firmware.
You're quite right, there's not really any difference between those two designations, aside from what naming convention and price structure was in use at the time it happened to be purchased. Based on programming, the standard version of the warm Clicky would have to be considered an Executive (mine's the only one I'm aware of with Tactical programming), despite the narrow beam.
However, even the firmware version isn't a definite clue to how to ID these. Enzo Morocioli's wwC was one of the first few that I'm aware of, I think he received it on Jan. 12th. This was just a little before there was such a thing as an Executive, as far as the public knew, and yet it had the updated programming with single level drops. Do all warm models have the newer version? I don't know, seems likely, maybe some others will chime in on that. Does that mean they're all Executives, even though there was no such title at the time of purchase and receipt for some of them? That doesn't seem right to me, especially since the early purchasers did not pay the lower Exec price. What it comes down to is that the only true distinction between them is date of purchase and price paid, which is, I think, a crummy way of defining a light. For that reason, I felt it better to take the liberty of ignoring some of the newly introduced naming conventions when doing so made more sense.
But I didn't want to take other options off the table entirely. The 100wwCE is on the list because I created that back when the model lineup was first overhauled and I thought there might be some official word declaring all non-Tactical narrow-beams to be narrow Executives and no longer Clicky Narrows; I wanted to be ready for anything. But there was never really any official guidance, beyond casual descriptions of the 170Cn with silver bezel and flat switch being an Executive with narrow beam (which is an accurate way to describe it within the context of the new lineup, but not necessarily a statement of how it should be designated), and I eventually decided it wasn't worth getting hung up on since the lights are basically identical and it doesn't really matter if it's a special alteration of an Executive or a continuation of a previously existing model; it's all in how you view it. And since the revised programming that you refer to as being indicative of the Exec/Tac models is found even on at least some that predate those names, there's even less (none at all) difference between a wwCn and a wwCE (or the more cumbersome wwCEn, since it gets confusing to the uninitiated if we start referring to a special narrow model as a CE, in contradiction to the main descriptions on the site; yet another naming issue to keep in mind).
I considered removing that wwCE option from my listing entirely (and I probably should), but I kind of wanted to leave the issue open for further discussion, like this. It's a tricky business, so I'd like feedback if I misstep. What do you think? Are the naming conventions I've come up with acceptable? I've tried to keep them as short, clear, precise, and consistent as possible, without stepping on old NT-EDC designations or getting ridiculously pedantic like the designations generated by the Ra custom program, but maybe I've missed something. How would you designate the ww models, as I have or another way?
I believe my warmie that I have might have been the first one made(excluding any proto's Henry may have had). I ordered mine directly from Ra in the beginning of December 08, and received it on Jan 9 2009. I have been wondering if mine really is the first of it's kind, something I could possibly verify by asking Henry. My paperwork that came with my order called mine "Ra custom, 100 lumen", nothing more
I think you were the first to register here, for what that's worth. It's at least one of the very earliest.
I thought the 100 lumen warm white was only available as a narrow beam version.
So the CE version would also be a narrow beam.
That's correct, for now at least. If that changes (and it certainly could easily enough if the warm SSC were used), maybe then will be the time for the wwCE designation to be put into use. In that case, there wouldn't be the issue of needing an "n" tacked on the end to keep things clear, or of having the same exact light in existence from an earlier period under a different name.
Here we go, I hope its in the right format, I tried my best 😉
faco.......................120EDCE......#6744
Yep, you nailed it perfectly! :thumbsup: