Ra Clicky's Clip: Where art thou?

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I'm hesitant to complain about any of Henry's work because I respect the level of thought he has put into his lights, but that clip is unacceptable to me. I'll still get a clicky, but I'll have to get a 3rd party clip to go with it. For $230 (for the Cgt) that doesn't sit quite right with me.
 
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That was some hilarious post, Ante. You are quite an artiste and a jokester as well. How about some more funny faces on your Clicky?

Jeff

 
The Ra Clicky Clip appears to have the highest anti roll feature ever seen on a cylindrical light. You good almost put the light on the fridge and it will stay there!
 
Perhaps the clip can be polished up a little bit more, so you can use the clip as a signaling mirror also!!!
You have a multitudinous multitude of talents.

I think it's ugly because it looks cheap, not because it clashes with my shoes. :crackup:
What color are your shoes, if I may be a little nosy?

The Ra Clicky Clip appears to have the highest anti-roll feature ever seen on a cylindrical light. You could almost put the light on the fridge, and it will stay there!
An astute observation, mate!


 
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I got my Clicky 140-Cn today, the tint is even better than my Twisty 85-Tr, no anodizing problems, no flicker on any output, no tailstanding wobble, no problems what-so-ever. Truly perfect.

Henry and HDS work quickly, they found and fixed the problems, so no one be scared to buy one now, the Clicky is awesome.

My favorite light for EDC so far. It also happens to look and feel amazing. This is a very high-quality light and falls in line with all the other great lights Henry has produced.

Oh and the clip isn't that bad and it doesn't make the light any harder to use.

Just have the round side of the light under your fingers and the clip side facing away and it doesn't get in the way.

It's completely functional fitting on both a belt and deeply on the inside or outside of a pocket. Plus it because pretty much completely
"roll-proof" with the clip on. From a utilitarian standpoint the clip is great.

But I won't have it on my Clicky.

Looks to funky. 😀 The clip isn't a work of art, but it does work.

Thank you Henry for making a wonderful light. And everyone else, start giving this guy some praise, he worked hard on these lights, and it seems everyones only talking about the negatives.
 
Looks downright fugly to me, but looks are secondary with a light like this. I'm not sure the clip will take the place of the nylon holster my Clicky rides in now, however.
 
DN, I simply MUST know. What SORT of nylon holster?? How did you come to acquire it????????????? How can I acquire one myself???? Do you have pictures???? I really like holsters for my light, especially if it can be hooked to a carabiner...
 
That's made all the more easy for you to say that when your light works perfectly.
It cost me extra money to send this light back when it was faulty, so has turned out more expensive.
Others have had to send there's back to the states from Europe and that's not to cheap either. Henry talks about special conditions which had to be employed to notice these faults which was why they were missed in testing.
I JUST PUT A BATTERY IN AND TURNED IT ON!
What's special about that?
If you have watched my video, how could that be missed?

But as I have said before I think the design of this light is perfect. The size the UI and everything and for that I think Henry should be applauded. I have ordered a replacement and hope that this time all works as it should.
As for the clip well that up to each and everyone of you to make your own mind up. I will be looking for a 3rd party one!
 
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That was some hilarious post, Ante. You are quite an artiste and a jokester as well. How about some more funny faces on your Clicky?

Why do i sense a mountain of sarcasm hiding in the corner of this post... :laughing:
Anyways, not my Clicky, it's prime77's photo. Mine is STILL stuck at the customs. 😡

Tracking says it should be coming my way tomorrow or on friday, though. At least that's how i interpret "Send item to domestic location" status message.
 
Hey, I like that design. If you decide to produce these for the Clicky, I might be in for one.

HOWEVER, despite being painfully ugly, THE NEW CLIP WORKS FINE.

(Just one man's opinion. I'm right, though.)

LLCoolBeans, I'd have to agree with what you are saying and I knew Henry must have had good reasons for this design. I think there is a bit of over-reaction on the looks factor but if it's not comfortable to hold or activate the switch easily then it's going to be begging for a secondary clip design. For now the Arc clip may work for some although I personally don't like bezel up only clips. I just placed my order for the Ra Clicky and I'll probably try putting my prototype bezel up/down clip I did in stainless steel on it for now. This one in SS:

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Why do I sense a mountain of sarcasm hiding in the corner of this post... :laughing:
Anyways, not my Clicky, it's prime77's photo. Mine is STILL stuck at the customs. 😡

Tracking says it should be coming my way tomorrow or on Friday, though. At least that's how I interpret "Send item to domestic location" status message.
Not even a mole hill of sarcasm in my post. Notice the addition of the letter "e" in the word "artiste?" That is a compliment.

Let me get this straight.....you stole, I mean "borrowed", prime77's cartoon? Are you some kind of international pirate? :crackup: Yes, now I remember that customs has had it since last Monday. Why so? Can you call customs for elaboration on the delivery notice?

Hey guys with customs problems. Move to the USA, and get your shipments on time. We will be waiting for you.

Jeff


 
I'm afraid I agree with the naysayers. When I opened the package with the clip my first thought was "What the...!?" It looked like a cheap generic clip, not what you would expect for a light that costs as much as the Clicky. But I attached it, and found immediately that it does in fact interfere with the use of the light. Oh sure, you can get around that, but why should you have to? No longer can I just pick up the light and use it. Now I have to pick it up the right way, and it's uncomfortable to hold.

I also dislike the bezel-up carry, because I have to flip the light over every time I take it out or put it away. That's inefficient, and I've already dropped the light once because of it.

Second, the clip, on the light, is surpassingly ugly. Utilitarian objects can be beautiful (like the Clicky itself), but this clip is neither. It interferes with the utility of the light; it's too big; it's clunky; it's a shiny fingerprint magnet screaming "Notice me" when it should be dull and unnoticeable on your belt or pocket. Can anyone look at a picture of the light with this clip on it and honestly say the clip looks like it belongs there? The clip looks like an afterthought, or maybe the light came with the clip, rather than the other way around.

Compare the image from PoliceScannerMan with the HDS clip at
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=217201&page=2
to one of the images with the Clicky clip (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=217201&page=3). Which clip looks like it goes with the light?

Having said all that, the clip does at least work as a clip. It holds the light securely (if you don't drop it while you're putting it on or taking it off). I'm not sure that's enough to justify the downside though. I'll be looking for an alternative.
 
That's made all the more easy for you to say that when your light works perfectly.
It cost me extra money to send this light back when it was faulty, so has turned out more expensive.
Others have had to send there's back to the states from Europe and that's not to cheap either. Henry talks about special conditions which had to be employed to notice these faults which was why they were missed in testing.
I JUST PUT A BATTERY IN AND TURNED IT ON!
What's special about that?
If you have watched my video, how could that be missed?

But as I have said before I think the design of this light is perfect. The size the UI and everything and for that I think Henry should be applauded. I have ordered a replacement and hope that this time all works as it should.
As for the clip well that up to each and everyone of you to make your own mind up. I will be looking for a 3rd party one!

+1 on nearly everything mentioned by Kam.

I have to ship my light to Henry for repair - the costs are about 45$ (including insurance). This roughly is 1/5 of the original price.

Sure, there is one special condition with my light (the blinking after a long uncooled runtime test) but anything else (dim locator flash, flickering on low levels with RCRs) could have been checked properly prior to shipping the lights (and these issues are present on many lights...).
Note that Henry says the following on his website: "We have designed the most advanced electronics on the planet." (take a look at "Clicky Details") - I don't think so... Because my Clicky flickers... 😛

Nevertheless Henry told me he is expecting being able to fix all my issues - and to return MY special light to me. I hope he is right... Otherwise I'm finished with Henry, HDS, RaLights or however you may call it. Buying a new light and having to send it back for repair because of "careless" quality control is a NO GO!

Besides all I hope my descriptions (of the specific issues) and returning my light helps Henry to prevent other from buying a faulty Ra Clicky.



And not to write more off topic:

I think I'm just leaving my Clicky (when it's back) without the clip. I hope to find some "blind screws" (screws without heads) to make my Clicky a smooth round pipe - which feels just perfect in my hands and in my pocket. I don't think I will lose my Clicky - my pockets are deep enough and this big big clip is no real option 🙂 Or I can get one of the old Arc/HDS clips (or a custom one?) I haven't made up my mind yet.
 
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For everyone that is looking for a solution to plug the holes for clipless carry, all you need are common 4-40 "set-screws".

HERE's a link for an example.



I'm unsure of the depth of the hole but you could easily measure that to get an appropriate length. Also, any hardware store or HomeDepot/Lowes would have these. You can get a hex style or a straight slot for all yous OCD types!


I guess I'll add a final thought. It's a damn shame about that clip. I've decided that ALL future EDC flashlight purchases will be made or broken by the friggin' clip. To put so much effort and hard work into bringing a flashlight of the Ra Clicky's caliber to market and then give it a clip that seems inversely proportionate is unforgivable.
 

Let me get this straight.....you stole, I mean "borrowed", prime77's cartoon? Are you some kind of international pirate? :crackup:
Nonono, i borrowed his Clicky photo to make the cartoon 🙂

Yes, now I remember that customs has had it since last Monday. Why so? Can you call customs for elaboration on the delivery notice?

I rather wouldn't. Rule #1 of dealing with customs - the less you ask them, the less they ask you. :crackup:

I'll see if the mailman will be bringing it tomorrow.
If not, i'll probably phone in to check what's up.
 
The Ra Clicky Clip appears to have the highest anti roll feature ever seen on a cylindrical light. You good almost put the light on the fridge and it will stay there!
Not only is it a fantastic anti-roll feature, it's also an impact-absorbing bumper! I dropped my Clicky yesterday (partially because of the clip) and it landed clip down and sat there balanced solidly upon it. :thumbsup:

Perhaps the clip can be polished up a little bit more, so you can use the clip as a signaling mirror also!!!.
Not much polishing necessary for that, mine is already sending out distress signals every time light hits it. One of these days I'll be walking down the street and find a miniature coast guard chopper circling my waist.

I attached it, and found immediately that it does in fact interfere with the use of the light. Oh sure, you can get around that, but why should you have to? No longer can I just pick up the light and use it. Now I have to pick it up the right way, and it's uncomfortable to hold.
That's exactly how I feel. Of course you can put up with it and find a workaround with a little effort, but we don't buy lights of this caliber because we want to have to put effort into working around design flaws when we use it. Good design is about working well, and a clip that demands an unreasonable amount of thought when you use the light for its intended purpose is not working well. And it hurts my dewicate wittle hands.

It holds the light securely (if you don't drop it while you're putting it on or taking it off).
I've dropped my Clicky twice so far; once because I was careless and distracted, once because the retaining end on the clip caught my pocket just enough to pull it from my grip.

I've decided that ALL future EDC flashlight purchases will be made or broken by the friggin' clip. To put so much effort and hard work into bringing a flashlight of the Ra Clicky's caliber to market and then give it a clip that seems inversely proportionate is unforgivable.
That might not be a bad policy. I've long recognized the importance of a clip being well-designed, but at the same time I kind of trivialized it by thinking that making a decent clip isn't that hard. After all, plenty of us normal user laymen have come up with very functional and well thought out designs. But maybe I was wrong. If you like and use clips, the design certainly can be a make or break it issue; I'm still trying to give the clip a chance on mine, but I've found that I've started reaching for other lights and avoiding the Clicky until I leave the house and slip it into my pocket. It's a great light, but when I have access to my entire arsenal, I'm more and more tending to grab something else. In a way, the clip has broken the deal for me.

orcinus and Armed Forces, great photos. 🙂
 
Top 10 Benefits of the "Ra" Clip
  • Signal low flying aircraft without any battery consumption
  • Fix your make-up; you better look good if your going to been seen with one.
  • Butter Knife
  • Tactical Reflector, with a small Photon allows you to see around corners.
  • Shopping bag carrier.
  • Very fashionable with black patent leather and Roseanne sized silver jewelry.
  • Theft protection; "That sure doesn't look like a $200 light."
  • Multipurpose opener with integrated carpenter's straight edge.
  • Clothes Pin
  • Works in the dark.
 
^^ :crackup:


That's some good material Standard.
I started cracking up at butter knife and I'm still lmfao.
 
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