Anybody have information on the new Reactor flashlight from cmgequipment( home of the mighty Infinity )?
http://www.cmgequipment.com/newsprod.html
http://www.cmgequipment.com/newsprod.html
Reactor flashlight from CMG
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yclo
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Wow, I didn't know that CMG sells Infinity "seconds" too.
Darell
Flashaholic
For about $1 more you can get a "first" from TTS though
dano
Flashlight Enthusiast
...Closed and moved to LED...FYI, there's already a topic on this over at LED...
--dan
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www.eppes.com Thank you for the link Eppes. I think the big question on everyones mind is-
Is there a step-up?
Is it a LS led?
We know-
It runs on two AA batts.
It has no regulation.
I assume there must be a step up if its a Nachia or...it is a LS driven straight at 3 volts.
LS or not...this is the question on my mind. Can you help us with this all important question? Cmg says we will have to wait till it comes out...this makes me consider that it is not a LS...if it were, I feel they would have no problem letting us know at this point (release in less than 7 days according to them)...and are afraid to come clean and admit it is not would damage initial sales.
I beleive it is a Nachia with a high rating and a super sweet lens...but a bright, narrow, unimpressive and mostly useless light similar in performance to the Dorcy Cool Blue, Brinkman Long Life, Rebel, Impact and PAL lights, but whiter and possibly with better centering.
Hope this is wrong.
Ken...er...Dimbulb/badbeam
Is there a step-up?
Is it a LS led?
We know-
It runs on two AA batts.
It has no regulation.
I assume there must be a step up if its a Nachia or...it is a LS driven straight at 3 volts.
LS or not...this is the question on my mind. Can you help us with this all important question? Cmg says we will have to wait till it comes out...this makes me consider that it is not a LS...if it were, I feel they would have no problem letting us know at this point (release in less than 7 days according to them)...and are afraid to come clean and admit it is not would damage initial sales.
I beleive it is a Nachia with a high rating and a super sweet lens...but a bright, narrow, unimpressive and mostly useless light similar in performance to the Dorcy Cool Blue, Brinkman Long Life, Rebel, Impact and PAL lights, but whiter and possibly with better centering.
Hope this is wrong.
Ken...er...Dimbulb/badbeam
rlhess
Enlightened
The hype-page looks impressive. It SAYS it runs 10 hours at full brightness from two AAs and then slopes off from there.
That is good as what get at the beginning is what you get 10 hours later.
That is bad because the Lambda Illuminator runs for four hours intermittant and two hours continuous while maintaining approximately 60% of its light output.
So it is not as bright (by a substantial factor) as the Lambda Illuminator UNLESS the LED is substantially more efficient.
Now it may have a higher CENTER PEAK BEAM CANDLEPOWER rating but only at the tradeoff of a narrower beam. We're pretty sure it's using fewer watts.
Oh, and to claim its output remains constant for 10 hours says to me it must be regulated.
Cheers,
Richard
That is good as what get at the beginning is what you get 10 hours later.
That is bad because the Lambda Illuminator runs for four hours intermittant and two hours continuous while maintaining approximately 60% of its light output.
So it is not as bright (by a substantial factor) as the Lambda Illuminator UNLESS the LED is substantially more efficient.
Now it may have a higher CENTER PEAK BEAM CANDLEPOWER rating but only at the tradeoff of a narrower beam. We're pretty sure it's using fewer watts.
Oh, and to claim its output remains constant for 10 hours says to me it must be regulated.
Cheers,
Richard
Hmm, I really think it will be more comparable to the Brinkman Rebel or Prinston Tech Impact. Not at all in the same class as a Arc LS or LI.
I think it will/must have a step-up but, in a phone call to CMG they told me it was not regulated. The ten hours peak brightness run time is in keeping with the CMG claim of 41 hours peak run time claimed for the Infinity. This is not regulated either. Also the claim of 100 plus hours of usable light is not consistant with what we have come to expect from a regulated light...they die rather quickly after the batt volt drops below a certain level.
I would not be surprised if it is overdriven, compared to the Rebel, with the special lens filtering out the overdriven blue color.
Dis is my geese.
Detective Dimbulb...CPF
I think it will/must have a step-up but, in a phone call to CMG they told me it was not regulated. The ten hours peak brightness run time is in keeping with the CMG claim of 41 hours peak run time claimed for the Infinity. This is not regulated either. Also the claim of 100 plus hours of usable light is not consistant with what we have come to expect from a regulated light...they die rather quickly after the batt volt drops below a certain level.
I would not be surprised if it is overdriven, compared to the Rebel, with the special lens filtering out the overdriven blue color.
Dis is my geese.
Detective Dimbulb...CPF
Eppe's Corner
Newly Enlightened
Hello Dark Star:
You were asking about the very HOT,HOT
NEW !!! CMG REACTOR ???
If you have a second and slide over to
eppes.com and scroll down to the
"LED Flashlight Section", there you
will find almost everything you
wanted to know about the " CMG REACTOR ",
but were afraid to ask ?
With the newly designed Fresnel Lens and
the newly designed circuit board along
with a pure white LED , this light
will be brighter then many 4-LED flashlights
and throw further as well.
THIS LIGHT WILL BE -----
SMMMMMMMOKIN'
CMG and Tektite are, I think leading the
pack with Fresnel Lens Technology.
CMG REACTOR lights are in fact being manufactured about 20 minutes from our location, here in Illinois.
Like Tektite and Pelican, CMG products
are designed and manufactured in the
U.S.A. CMG designs and manufacturers
here in Illinois.
Hope I was of some help.
Have a bright one.
Gary
Eppe's Corner
[email protected]
You were asking about the very HOT,HOT
NEW !!! CMG REACTOR ???
If you have a second and slide over to
eppes.com and scroll down to the
"LED Flashlight Section", there you
will find almost everything you
wanted to know about the " CMG REACTOR ",
but were afraid to ask ?
With the newly designed Fresnel Lens and
the newly designed circuit board along
with a pure white LED , this light
will be brighter then many 4-LED flashlights
and throw further as well.
THIS LIGHT WILL BE -----
SMMMMMMMOKIN'
CMG and Tektite are, I think leading the
pack with Fresnel Lens Technology.
CMG REACTOR lights are in fact being manufactured about 20 minutes from our location, here in Illinois.
Like Tektite and Pelican, CMG products
are designed and manufactured in the
U.S.A. CMG designs and manufacturers
here in Illinois.
Hope I was of some help.
Have a bright one.
Gary
Eppe's Corner
[email protected]
mc
Newly Enlightened
What led is used in this? Is it just focused with a lens?
Gary, thanks for the previous post.
Mark
Gary, thanks for the previous post.
Mark
I've heard every one of the features listed as marketing hype before on other flashlights.
Regular white LED's as the "first true white LED's" (as opposed to a mix of red yellow blue chips) BTW Luxeons aren't pure white either.
10 hrs at full brightness:
Unfortunately "Full" brightness isn't the same as peak brightness.
One LED brighter than four: Over driven and focused into a narrow beam. Its totally possible with one 5mm LED.
For $30 I think we have a Brinkmann Rebel in an aluminum case.
Maybe it at least has a better rank (whiter) LED?
Regular white LED's as the "first true white LED's" (as opposed to a mix of red yellow blue chips) BTW Luxeons aren't pure white either.
10 hrs at full brightness:
Unfortunately "Full" brightness isn't the same as peak brightness.
One LED brighter than four: Over driven and focused into a narrow beam. Its totally possible with one 5mm LED.
For $30 I think we have a Brinkmann Rebel in an aluminum case.
OT
Ok I went to eppes corner and here is what they have to say about another CMG product the Infinity task light:
"Custom Made Circuit Board Regulates
the Energy Flow for More Brightness
and More Battery Burn Time."
OK, So we know this isn't true is it. Hell it defies the laws of physics.
It's not as bad as the Campmor add copy:
"Utilizing the LED technology, the Task Light is a virtually indestructible, extremely bright light. Operating on one AA battery with a 41 hour burn time ..."
Extremely bright? It's damn near the dimmest white LED light you can buy!
Ok I went to eppes corner and here is what they have to say about another CMG product the Infinity task light:
"Custom Made Circuit Board Regulates
the Energy Flow for More Brightness
and More Battery Burn Time."
OK, So we know this isn't true is it. Hell it defies the laws of physics.
It's not as bad as the Campmor add copy:
"Utilizing the LED technology, the Task Light is a virtually indestructible, extremely bright light. Operating on one AA battery with a 41 hour burn time ..."
Extremely bright? It's damn near the dimmest white LED light you can buy!
brightnorm
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rlhess:
......So it is not as bright (by a substantial factor) as the Lambda Illuminator UNLESS the LED is substantially more efficient......
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
An LED substantially more efficient than either the Luxeon or Nichia would be a genuine technological breakthrough, something that would be revolutionary more than evolutionary. Has anyone here, including Peter Gransee and others heard so much as a whisper about such a product?
It would certainly be a major step in the right direction because IMO at this stage in the development of LED's increased efficiency is more important than the ever-escalating lumen war using energy gobbling Luxeons or Nichias that are pushed, shoved and kicked at the expense of runtime.
By now we know the energy demands of luxeons and Nichias, we know the energy capacities of all types of AA's (and other sizes) and we know the inescapable math of the brightness/runtime tradeoff, regulation or no regulation.
So, along with most of us, I remain skeptical of this new product, though it might be interesting to play with a Luxeon that is just running at cruising speed for a change, although I'm probably doing an injustice to Peter Gransee, whose LS is most likely the best compromise between brightness and runtime currently available(or at least partly available!)
I've just ordered the Reactor and skeptically
but with ever-hopeful Flashaholic eagerness
await its arrival.
Brightnorm
......So it is not as bright (by a substantial factor) as the Lambda Illuminator UNLESS the LED is substantially more efficient......
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
An LED substantially more efficient than either the Luxeon or Nichia would be a genuine technological breakthrough, something that would be revolutionary more than evolutionary. Has anyone here, including Peter Gransee and others heard so much as a whisper about such a product?
It would certainly be a major step in the right direction because IMO at this stage in the development of LED's increased efficiency is more important than the ever-escalating lumen war using energy gobbling Luxeons or Nichias that are pushed, shoved and kicked at the expense of runtime.
By now we know the energy demands of luxeons and Nichias, we know the energy capacities of all types of AA's (and other sizes) and we know the inescapable math of the brightness/runtime tradeoff, regulation or no regulation.
So, along with most of us, I remain skeptical of this new product, though it might be interesting to play with a Luxeon that is just running at cruising speed for a change, although I'm probably doing an injustice to Peter Gransee, whose LS is most likely the best compromise between brightness and runtime currently available(or at least partly available!)
I've just ordered the Reactor and skeptically
but with ever-hopeful Flashaholic eagerness
await its arrival.
Brightnorm
