Received BatMax Samples

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Well after asking these guys for samples I received 4 today:

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If you ask me these look like simple stickers, they feel like a simple sticker, the thickness is like a simple sticker, it bends like a simple sticker...

But hey, I want to give these guys the benefit of the doubt, I'm willing to send a couple of these to the gurues of this forum /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Contact me via PM so we can arrange how to ship a sticker.


Pablo
 
I have had some discussion with Pablo on how to test this thing out.

I have a Sony 18650 Li-Ion cell that is showing signs of high resistance. I use the cell in an U2 around the house. The run time is a bit on the short side, but it works well.

My plan is to attach the sticker and see if I can shake some Ions loose.

I will run it through several cycles and see if there is any improvement.

Any other suggestions for the test are welcome.

Tom
 
I can't help but feel that these are kind of like "laundry discs" since the "technical overview" is more than a bit light on explaining the principle at work. It's really short on explaining what powers the device.
 
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SilverFox said:
Any other suggestions for the test are welcome.

Tom

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I would suggest that one of the controls be surrounded by chicken bones and subjected to incantations under the light of a full moon to see if this is equally efficacious /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Now, if it was one of those new paper thin super capacitors and connected to the battery terminals, I could understand, since the cell phone surges could be supplied by the super cap, and it is an effective means for extending battery life.

But this.......ahem.

Did I say I'm scratching my head vigorously???
 
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Doug S said:
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SilverFox said:
Any other suggestions for the test are welcome.

Tom

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I would suggest that one of the controls be surrounded by chicken bones and subjected to incantations under the light of a full moon to see if this is equally efficacious /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Also, be sure to test its effectiveness on warding off vampires.

I expect data entries as such:

...
Feb 6, 2005; 10:00; 32hrs: No vampire attacks.
Feb 6, 2005; 12:00; 34hrs: No vampire attacks.
Feb 6, 2005; 14:00; 36hrs: No vampire attacks.
...

Conclusion: Effective at warding off vampires.
 
Well... since I received those in my office I made no sales. So maybe is not a bad idea to give away the last one too /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Silverfox: mail is on the way
Wptski & LED Asap: will be mailed on monday


Pablo
PS: BTW I wasn't abducted by aliens neither, so I may end keeping it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crackup.gif
 
All right... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

You all have seen the discharge graph from my tired old Sony 18650. That is going to be my test mule.

Doug suggested the reduced capacity was due to internal resistance...
but - just a minute... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
I believe there are vampire bite marks on it. Wow, this sticker may just work after all. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin07.gif

Newbie, if I mix a solution of blood and chicken bones and apply it under a full moon do you have any idea what I can expect for efficiency? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yellowlaugh.gif

What's that...

[from the distance] "Smoke and mirrors" [chanted softly]

Won't you all be surprised when that 600 mAh cell test out at 1200+ mAh after 10 cycles with the BatMax... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nana.gif

YES

Tom
 
Tom, you're missing the really needed virgin for sacrifice at the altar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crackup.gif

Without that the Gods inside batmax won't revitalize the sony battery.


Pablo
 
Hi All,

I suggest you find two batteries to test with. One as a control, the other with the "BatMax" miracle sticker. Don't stick them in the charger at the same time, but put them both through the same tests under the same conditions.

It seems to me that you might get a bit of a performance boost just from the battery cycling alone. So you don't want to start endorsing the miracle sticker just because some standard battery cycling brought some life back to your cell.

I'm sure you already thought of that, but I hadn't seen it mentioned, so I figured it should be said.

pb
 
I also suggest that you stick a strip of dutch tape on the contol cell so it's fair to batmax /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
 
this sounds strangely similar to those stickers that boost cell phone signals. Do they work? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif Dunno, don't have a cell. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
greenLED:
No.

In order to easily improve cell phone reception, you can either add directionality to the antenna (with the attendant challenge of keeping the antenna pointed at the tower), or - shockingly - increase transmission power at both ends.

Since a "passive amplifier" does neither, don't expect any miraculous leaps in efficiency. It's going to be tough to improve on the efficiency of existing omnidirectional antennas on cell phones without an apparatus substantially larger than the phone itself.

[tangential]
It might be possible to improve the outgoing signal with solid-state antennas that have electrically tunable directionality like they use for radar on Arleigh-Burke class destroyers... but that's an interesting challenge in itself since you need to tune for 3 axes and be able to reliably determine the diretion of RF from the tower.
 
Looking for a virgin... Hmmm this is going to be fun.

The sacrifices I make for science... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin07.gif

Here is what I have so far.

2 Sony 18650 Li-Ion cells that are very similar in performance.

Both cells have been cycled at least 10 times and cycling does not seem to have that much effect on Li-Ion when used at normal loads. The RC people find some performance improvement from cycling, but they are running at 10-25 amp (or more) loads.

Both cells will be run in my U2, and charged on my Universal Li-Ion charger.

I will do a comparison discharge on my CBA before starting, and after every 5 cycles.

I figure 20 cycles should be enough for the magic to do its stuff.

Tom
 
I should add that while I have two similar cells, I will be putting the BatMax sticker on only one of them.

The other will serve as a standard for comparison.

Both cells came from a cell phone battery pack that I got a few years ago. It never worked because of a bad connection inside. I saved the cells and just started using them when I got my U2.

Doug says that they are rated around 1200 mAh, but I am getting less than that.

Tom
 
Update:

I received the BatMax "device" from Pablo yesterday. It looks like a sticker...

I put it under my pillow and slept on it. I figure sleep recharges my batteries, so I might get a bit of a benefit from it.

Well, if any of my ions got re-arranged, I missed it...

It still looks like a sticker.

Where is my magnifying glass...

At any rate, the testing has started.

Tom
 
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I put it under my pillow and slept on it. I figure sleep recharges my batteries, so I might get a bit of a benefit from it.

Well, if any of my ions got re-arranged, I missed it...


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It kept vampires away, didn't it? So stop complaining!

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