Recommend me a Flood LED light.

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With my recent purchase of my spear, I can happily say that my throw requirements out of a 'handheld' for the near future have been met. I am now in the market for a good, modern, quality handheld flood light. Here are my requirements:

-White tint LED
-NIHM AA, RCR123, cr123, or 18650 usage
-Simple two levels of output (i.e good high and 'usable' low)
-Not bigger than the Spear
 
betalight- I am looking for something that looks like a good ol' fashioned flashlight. Lol. Although the zebralight is on my wishlist already. :naughty: Got anything else?

gbone- Thanks for the suggestion. I will look that up.
 
I saw a great floody light at a recent PhotonFest. It was an Amilite Neo T5. Very good build quality and runs on a single cr123 battery. For the rechargable option you should NOT use RCR123 3.7v in it but you can use RCR123 3.0v cells in it. [BatteryJunction and AW have them in standard LiIon and in newer, safer LiPO4 chemistry. The safer LiPO4 has reduced capacity compared to the LiIon, but you don't get the annoying cell shut down which leaves you in the dark]

The beam and tint are great. Look at Doug's review of it on FlashlightReviews.
 
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Simple. Get one light for both.

An example would be the Regalight - great throw for size. Unscrew the head/reflector and you have a bare LED for all the flood you could want - pure flood at 220 lumens. I think D-mini does the same thing.

Mo
 
It's nice to have both a light with super throw when needed, and a light that is pure flood for reading and other close up work like the zebralight, but for me an absolutely GREAT compromise for EDC is a just slightly floody light like the little L0D-Q4, which has a moderately floody hotspot that will cover an area of about 1 foot at 3 or 4 feet. Folks that have bought this light just flat out LOVE it (even those that didn't think they would like the red color).

I find that the L0D's hotspot is wide enough to spread out to cover a very useful area even fairly close up, but still incredibly bright (on high that hotspot is brighter than a 100W droplight held at the same distance).

You can hold this little light only 2 feet from a paperback book and the hotspot will perfectly illuminate a full page with bright uniform light.

It's a five mode light, but the first two modes are a nice bright medium mode with more than 2 hours runtime, and a long runtime low with several hours runtime.

The zebra light is PURE flood and has multiple levels just like the original poster requested, but remember the tradeoff between a more floody beam and brightness and throw. Also the zebralight sacrifices a little on output to get a 2 hour plus runtime (even the Q5 version only puts out 66 Lumens).

Now, although it's true that 66 lumens in a standard flashlight looks pretty bright, I find that the zebralight's 66 lumens with 120 degree flood starts to thin out pretty fast.

The zebralight is more than bright enough for close up work like reading a map, and in a pinch it can also handle something like walking a path at night (if you only care about where you are putting your feet and aren't interested in looking farther down the trail). Close up it's nice and floody and bright, but don't expect to see a 'wall of light' which will light up a whole room, because more than a few feet out things get dim fairly quickly.

Remember the inverse square law, which means that things that are twice as far away only get 1/4th the light per unit area. It also means that a floody beam that is 10 times as wide will only give 1/100th the lux per square unit at any given distance.

So even though the zebra light is well made, and does what it is advertised to do, some folks are disappointed because what they really want is a light that is just as bright as their favorite flashlight's hot spot, but with a beam wide enough to create a full 'wall of light'. This of course is impossible. Given the total lumens available, you either can have a tight bright hotspot, or a larger but MUCH dimmer floody beam, you can't get both a bright beam AND a wide beam at the same time.

Anyone considering the zebralight should definitely get the Q5 version. It's only a few dollars more, and with the floody beam you need all the brightness you can get.

Another option is to simply add a diffuser to a standard LED light.

I have a Maglight 2AA with a teralux dropin that I have modded by replacing the stock lens with a diffuser lens made out of a circle of plastic from the bottom of one of those half height clear CD/DVD cases. The cases I am talking about are those half-thickness slim line CD/DVD jewel cases that come in sets with various colors. All of the cases have a nice textured bottom which is absolutely PERFECT as a diffuser, and one of the colors is perfectly water clear acrylic that is absolutely wonderful for smoothing out the beam to a perfect flood, without cutting down the level too much.

You can even switch between pure flood and throw because Maglights have an accessory kit available that has various colored lenses that you can drop into a hexagonal shaped no-roll head boot which installs on the lights bezel. Originally I use the diffuser disk I had made from the CD/DVD jewel case with this boot so I could remove it when I wanted more throw, but the floody beam is just SOOOO nice that I finally decided to install it permanently in place of the mini maglight's original plastic lens.

This plastic diffuser modded maglight gives a pretty floody beam without completely killing the lights throw. The mini-maglight with the diffuser lens mod is not quite as floody as the zebralight, but is brighter at a given distance as a result, and it's not only very very nice for close up tasks like reading, but will also light up things fairly well on the other side of the room.

So there are lots of options depending on how 'floody' you want vs. how bright and how much throw you need, but regardless of how you decide to go, I strongly recommend that you consider the L0D-Q4, which has absolutly jaw dropping performance in an incredibly tiny package.
 
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Simple. Get one light for both.

An example would be the Regalight - great throw for size. Unscrew the head/reflector and you have a bare LED for all the flood you could want - pure floody goodness at 220 lumens. I think D-mini does the same thing but not as bright.

Of course, your LED is not protected in that situation so perhaps someone can manufacture a small clear cover that screw over the thread over the LED.

Mo
 
Simple. Get one light for both.

An example would be the Regalight - great throw for size. Unscrew the head/reflector and you have a bare LED for all the flood you could want - pure flood at 220 lumens. I think D-mini does the same thing.

Mo
 
Just a suggestion...yet we're less than 30 days out from the SHOT show...maybe you should wait and see if something new or improved is possibly in the pipeline?
 
The cases I am talking about are those half-thickness slim line CD/DVD jewel cases that come in sets with various colors. All of the cases have a nice textured bottom which is absolutely PERFECT as a diffuser, and one of the colors is perfectly water clear acrylic that is absolutely wonderful for smoothing out the beam to a perfect flood, without cutting down the level too much.

Nice idea. I have various colored cases - need to find a clear one

Any light can be averaged out with an add on like this if you're willing to sacrifice throw..
 
This probably goes without saying, but you guys rock. All i have do is look at my control panel and walla! A wealth of useful information!

So many choices and not the money to match. Lol. But all advice will be entertained.
 
Neither have two levels of output, but my favorite flood lights are my Inova X5T and my Surefire L4. Just some food for thought.
 
I second Luminescent's suggestion of using a diffuser. I put a piece of ordinary Scotch "Magic" tape (matte finish) over the front of my P1, and it makes a very nice and floody light for walking or for lighting up the whole campsite. It reduces the total light output by only an insignificant 15%, and it's easily reversible. Of course, any diffuser works better if you start with a light that's on the floody side to begin with. A tiny reflector like AAA lights have pretty much guarantees that you won't have a small and sharp hot spot. A few AA and CR123 lights with small diameter reflector, like the Olight T20 (and, from what I hear, some of their other models), do produce a remarkably tight beam, so you'd want to avoid those. And an OP reflector, the coarser the better, will get you well on the way toward a floody beam.

c_c
 
Lumapower LM 303 is pretty floody, 2 level, small and about 30 bucks.
 
Go get yourself the ULTIMATE FLOOD.
The MULE.
Go to the McGizmo area of the forums and buy one. your flashlight use will never be the same.
truly these are semi custom flashlights and don't come cheap like asian made mass production lights. But the quality and reliability are second to none.
The newest version is available (amazing in and of itself) right now. You still need to go grab a light engine too.


Anyway if you really want a flood light... somthing which is very good for close up work then you can't make a wrong turn here.
Yaesumofo
 
I second Luminescent's suggestion of using a diffuser. I put a piece of ordinary Scotch "Magic" tape (matte finish) over the front of my P1, and it makes a very nice and floody light for walking or for lighting up the whole campsite. It reduces the total light output by only an insignificant 15%, and it's easily reversible. Of course, any diffuser works better if you start with a light that's on the floody side to begin with. A tiny reflector like AAA lights have pretty much guarantees that you won't have a small and sharp hot spot. A few AA and CR123 lights with small diameter reflector, like the Olight T20 (and, from what I hear, some of their other models), do produce a remarkably tight beam, so you'd want to avoid those. And an OP reflector, the coarser the better, will get you well on the way toward a floody beam.

c_c

The scotch tape trick is a always a good dodge in a pinch, but I found that it cut the beam down more than I wanted and still didn't make the light floody enough. I hear the 'satin' style scotch tape they have available for wrapping Christmas presents is better, but I haven't had a chance to try it.

I have tried about 20 different kinds of plastic and various other materials, but none of them worked as well as the textured plastic on the bottom of these Jewel cases. It's basically a kind of low cost version of those 'micro-lens' type diffusers that are now used commercially on rear projection screens and the like.

On the cases I have, the circular area around the CD/DVD spindle only has a frosty texture on one the outside (the inside is glossy smooth), but the four corners outside the disk circle are frosted on both sides.
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Here's the type of Jewel Case you will need -

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I used the material from the interior area where it's only frosted on one side, and the performance is really incredible. When I permanently installed the diffuser lens in place of the original lens, I left the shiny side out so it would seal with the maglight bezel's o-ring better. The thickness and durability of the replacement diffuser lens is at least as good as the original maglight plastic lens and the textured surface gives it this really cool eerie kind of 3-D look that you have to see to appreciate.

As I mentioned before, if you have one of the mini-maglight accessory kits that comes with colored lenses and with the hexagonal protective rubber boot that goes on the lights bezel, you can just cut your diffuser lens to match the size of the drop-in color lenses that are used with the accessory kits bezel boot.

It not only works incredibly well, but it's the most totally cool looking light when you look into the lens that I have ever seen (no kidding), and I would think any self respecting flashaholic would want to check it out for that reason alone.
[FONT=&quot]Lately, I have seen that these colored Jewel Cases are now sometimes offered in smaller sets (at HIGHER COST) that don't have the clear ones I used, but if you can find one snag it (or perhaps one of your friends has one, and you can trade another case for it).

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After you cut a disk of this material and install it in the light here's how it looks with the light turned off and turned on -
(the photos don't quite do justice to the cool 3-D appearance you get)

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Here's the obligatory white wall beam shot -
(this mini-maglight has a Teralux side-emitter drop-in and before the diffuser was installed the beam looked really really ugly)

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Here is a shot of the light in a typical close up work shot. Notice how you can get in really close (the light is just visible at the left side of the shot) and still light up a nice wide area while preserving a reasonable amount of throw (the camera metered on the bright center area and darkened the exposure a little. In real life the beam is even brighter and floodier than it appears here) -

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Need a lantern style flood? Here's another idea. Just find a small white plastic bottle that can be cut down to fit tightly over the end of the light (this one is an asprin bottle) -

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As you can see from the images, you can get very professional results, that look and work every bit as well as the commercial products. For example, my simple little aspirin bottle diffuser gives a nice lantern style flood, but doesn't look nearly as comical and silly as the Fenix commercial product.
 
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Yaesumofo is right, if you can afford it, get a Mule, in a 1-level setup if necessary.

The L0D Q4 is a nice general purpose small edc but I wouldn't describe it as a flood light. It has a hot spot like most other lights.

The H50 has a nice flood beam but its UI is annoying for a handheld light. it's better as a headlamp, which is left on for longer periods.
 
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