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STANLEY (or STANLEY PMI or "STANLEY 1913") is a brand, not a company.
The trading company who originated this brand was Pacific Market International (or PMI Worldwide) which was established in 1983 by Rob Harris; their other successful brand is Aladdin. All of the current STANLEY "thermos" are made in China as stated on the product themselves, not a secret. PMI Worldwide shares ownership stakes in 1 factory in China and 2 factory sites in Brazil, so one could see them as manufacturer never mind.
In the field of vacuum-insulated steel containers (visc) for beverages, the STANLEY brand could be compared to the FENIX brand in the field of China-made flashlights. Fenix is still undisputably "the first" leading flashlight brand coming out of the chinas even if they weren't the first or the inventors or are the best marketed nowadays. Same with these beverage viscs, there are countless brand-name competitors on the US market, earlier this year Project Farm did a test of 14 popular trading branded viscs; on geman sale sites, besides STANLEY, i looked at some YETI, and KLEAN KANTEEN, and stopped caring. Similar beverage viscs can be had for 4$ shipped from AX in all kinds of finishes and colors (1005003347106615), and your local big supermarket might carry them too, viscs have become a commodity (off-the-peg ware, stangenware), they are mass-produced in the china, constructed and finished with the same technology, and perform similarly, do their jobs well of keeping cold drinks cold and hot drinks hot. And they all share the same set of realistic fails, amzn is the best place to read and see lots of fails: finish/coating chipping
or flaking off
or bubbling up
, 1D or 2D scratches
, rust formation
, denting
, beverage leaking
, deminishing performance (vaccuum leakage)
, broken plastic lids
, sweating
, etc.
However, there are two negative aspects in those hundreds of amzn customer reviews of all branded viscs which get overlooked. Let's assume that you receive your desired STANLEY/YETI/KLEAN KANTEEN/etc visc beer tumbler in perfect condition, a cherry-picked production unit to perform and look Like New for decades to come (if handled with care). Then you still can't do anything about the following two Con's:
I'll just have to accept the situation. If i really want/need to enjoy my ice-cold sparkling mineral water, then i pour it into my thicc glass tumbler as before
(and maybe i should unretire my 0.7L plastic tumbler in the meantime after all). If on a given day i'd prefer coldness over carbonation, then i'll happily pour into the STANLEY tumbler because yes viscs are outstanding at keeping cold drinks cold. You decide tho what's preferable: an ice-cold beer with near-zilch carbonation, or a room-temperature beer with normal carbonation? "stale" beer could be defined either way!
Btw if, after years of usage, one suspects that the vaccuum has vanished thru leakage, it is good to have your own performance reference from when the product was brandnew:
At 22.0°C room temperature on my wood mini cutting board, with a set of 18 dry ice cubes (made with "Café"-top aligned liquid water amount, i.e. 223g water), not topped up with wet water, and shut with red plastic lid (press fit sealing lol), it takes over 27.0h until all ice has vanished into the forming water.
Feel free to chime in and leave your own praise or pet peeves; i highly recommend reading thru the negative amzn customer reviews. You'll come to the conclusion that these viscs are not suitable for professional/commercial/restaurant use (it's a 1$ cost price cheap china product which would eventually turn sour on the restaurant business owner), are not super robust (if dropped on tiled floor, you'll see the damage like dents, scratches, or chips), and they're imho not really suitable for carbonated cold drinks. But they are great to have for all other cold (or hot) drinks, and also for viscous food stuff like yoghurt, frozen yoghurt, Ayran, geman Quark, ice cream, tomato juice, fruit juice, smoothies, soups. Just try not to leave salty sour acidic liquid residues slowly drying in there (stainless steel isn't rustproof but just stains less than regular steel).
If you do know a visc tumbler with electropolished stainless steel interior/interior finish, please let us know. It would be a game changer!! WARNING: Accelerated loss of carbonation (of cold drinks) AND the funky steel taste is common to all beverage viscs and the www (not only on amazon) should be fully aware of it, before one can issue a recommendation. Include this warning when you choose to gift a visc to friends or family.
STANLEY (or STANLEY PMI or "STANLEY 1913") is a brand, not a company.
The trading company who originated this brand was Pacific Market International (or PMI Worldwide) which was established in 1983 by Rob Harris; their other successful brand is Aladdin. All of the current STANLEY "thermos" are made in China as stated on the product themselves, not a secret. PMI Worldwide shares ownership stakes in 1 factory in China and 2 factory sites in Brazil, so one could see them as manufacturer never mind.
In the field of vacuum-insulated steel containers (visc) for beverages, the STANLEY brand could be compared to the FENIX brand in the field of China-made flashlights. Fenix is still undisputably "the first" leading flashlight brand coming out of the chinas even if they weren't the first or the inventors or are the best marketed nowadays. Same with these beverage viscs, there are countless brand-name competitors on the US market, earlier this year Project Farm did a test of 14 popular trading branded viscs; on geman sale sites, besides STANLEY, i looked at some YETI, and KLEAN KANTEEN, and stopped caring. Similar beverage viscs can be had for 4$ shipped from AX in all kinds of finishes and colors (1005003347106615), and your local big supermarket might carry them too, viscs have become a commodity (off-the-peg ware, stangenware), they are mass-produced in the china, constructed and finished with the same technology, and perform similarly, do their jobs well of keeping cold drinks cold and hot drinks hot. And they all share the same set of realistic fails, amzn is the best place to read and see lots of fails: finish/coating chipping





However, there are two negative aspects in those hundreds of amzn customer reviews of all branded viscs which get overlooked. Let's assume that you receive your desired STANLEY/YETI/KLEAN KANTEEN/etc visc beer tumbler in perfect condition, a cherry-picked production unit to perform and look Like New for decades to come (if handled with care). Then you still can't do anything about the following two Con's:
- the steel smell/taste of the drink!
If you come from plastic bottles, ceramic mugs, or glass tumblers, you'll hate the metallic taste up in your nose. At least in the first week when your nose/brain needs to get accustomed to the smell. If your beverage has an even stronger aroma, then your nose cancels out the steel smell, but with mineral water the water just tastes disgusting (during your first week with the brand-new product)! (even though the drink goes down the mouth and throat, you know that it's the nose which makes us taste the drink, doht you?)
- the accelerated loss of carbonation in the drink!
this aspect is massive, if your cold drink comes with carbonation (kohlensäurehaltig: sparkling mineral water, Pepsi/Coke, beer, club soda, sparkling wine, champagne, fizz water, etc). maybe other users aren't aware because they enjoy the beer foaming AND chug their beer within minutes, fine. but for slow drinkers, it's a horror and my personal #1 disadvantage of the STANLEY beer tumbler and all other viscs. It seems though that most buyers use the viscs for hot drinks like coffee (which has a stronger aroma AND is not carbonated); me, i never drink coffee.
I'll just have to accept the situation. If i really want/need to enjoy my ice-cold sparkling mineral water, then i pour it into my thicc glass tumbler as before
Btw if, after years of usage, one suspects that the vaccuum has vanished thru leakage, it is good to have your own performance reference from when the product was brandnew:
At 22.0°C room temperature on my wood mini cutting board, with a set of 18 dry ice cubes (made with "Café"-top aligned liquid water amount, i.e. 223g water), not topped up with wet water, and shut with red plastic lid (press fit sealing lol), it takes over 27.0h until all ice has vanished into the forming water.
Feel free to chime in and leave your own praise or pet peeves; i highly recommend reading thru the negative amzn customer reviews. You'll come to the conclusion that these viscs are not suitable for professional/commercial/restaurant use (it's a 1$ cost price cheap china product which would eventually turn sour on the restaurant business owner), are not super robust (if dropped on tiled floor, you'll see the damage like dents, scratches, or chips), and they're imho not really suitable for carbonated cold drinks. But they are great to have for all other cold (or hot) drinks, and also for viscous food stuff like yoghurt, frozen yoghurt, Ayran, geman Quark, ice cream, tomato juice, fruit juice, smoothies, soups. Just try not to leave salty sour acidic liquid residues slowly drying in there (stainless steel isn't rustproof but just stains less than regular steel).
If you do know a visc tumbler with electropolished stainless steel interior/interior finish, please let us know. It would be a game changer!! WARNING: Accelerated loss of carbonation (of cold drinks) AND the funky steel taste is common to all beverage viscs and the www (not only on amazon) should be fully aware of it, before one can issue a recommendation. Include this warning when you choose to gift a visc to friends or family.
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