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Re: Icon Flashlight by Surefire

Well its about time Al(!) and he blames us for sleeping. 🙄
I guess I'll say this in closing.

I think as red blooded patriotic Americans we all want to buy USA products, that's a given, the problem in a nutshell is what choices do we have at this point in time. Sure you can choose to only buy products like Surefire but many cannot afford them. This is the problem with everything we buy. Consumers only have so much to spend and that dictates their choices. As soon as there is a vacuum in the market, demand will fill it and there starts the "problem". Just look at how many flashlights we have to choose between! Every size, shape, color and cost. A company has to constantly struggle to remain competitive within their niche because the second they start slipping with what they bring to market the competition is already one step closer to catching them and gaining market share. It is simply survival of the fittest in a free market economy and if your competition finds a way to lower their cost of manufacture by 50% you better do the same if you want to stay in business. Thus the exodus of jobs i.e. manufacturing overseas. What is happening in the United States is a shift from a manufacturing basis to one of services. The thing that scares me is with the horrible decline of our public education system the future seems a little bleak for even that.
 
adnj said:
I wonder if the Rogue 1 will take a 14500 cell.
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I don't know. I'm sure that CPF will have a great time experimenting with powering the Rogues with various different battery chemistries.
I like the idea of using LiAA's myself but then I've never really been a rechargeable-battery guy have I?
 
I think these are very pretty lights, particularly the long lanyard flange on either side. It does add to the width though, but I'm sure I could live with that. It would also lend itself to a pretty super paracord wrap option, for grip and finish.

However is it just me or does 50 lumens seem quite low for an AA light on high nowadays? Especially with various manufacturers offering 130 or 180 lumens for the same AA cell ( I.E. Fenix, Jetbeam, Nitecore, Olight, etc.). And when you have a light that is that big compared to other lights in its class, I would think you would expect more output. Even if it were for a shorter time

Maybe this is an example of reality advertising as opposed to wishes and over-exaggeration. Or even maybe they opted for a long running medium and low two-stage instead of a high and low.

And I actually like the look of the green lanyard supplied.

Can't wait for the reviews to come in, who will get one first?
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Be lucky...
 
Re: Icon Flashlight by Surefire

Sharpy_swe said:
PK ?
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Paul Kim
He's held various positions at SureFire over the last decade or so including heading up new product development, and working his way to being promoted to VP of Engineering a few years ago, and now has a new challenge and adventure creating the ICON brand and is busy designing exciting new products.
 
Re: Icon Flashlight by Surefire

Size15's said:
I've been asleep, and this news finally hits CPF. It's been online for ages guys - you've been asleep!

Anyway - the new brand - ICON - is designed and created by PK, not by SureFire.

SureFire = USA
ICON = PK

Two separate entities with two distinct missions.

I'd say its "Rogue Flashlights by ICON" rather than 'ICON Flashlights by SureFire'

But now at last the news has finally reached CPF of ICON and the Rogues.
Some people have been calling for me to post and if you want my opinion, I urge you to wait for there to be a US-dealer before jumping to too many conclusions.

Another point we may want to consider:

SureFire = tactical and outdoor market
ICON = consumer market

We Flashaholics are our own special niche and neither brand is aim at us, although we may find our paths cross here and there with each brand from time to time.

Al 😀
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You beat me here.

It was amusing reading this thread.

The first few posts were "Why does SureFire have another companies lights on it's page?"

Then towards the end it was "Surefire has been compromised."

You guys imaginations run on overdrive lol
 
Re: Icon Flashlight by Surefire

Size15's said:
Paul Kim
He's held various positions at SureFire over the last decade or so including heading up new product development, and working his way to being promoted to VP of Engineering a few years ago, and now has a new challenge and adventure creating the ICON brand and is busy designing exciting new products.
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Thanks :thumbsup:
 
Re: Icon Flashlight by Surefire

Size15's said:
Paul Kim
He's held various positions at SureFire over the last decade or so including heading up new product development, and working his way to being promoted to VP of Engineering a few years ago, and now has a new challenge and adventure creating the ICON brand and is busy designing exciting new products.
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I guess two little questions and I would understand the situation... does Paul Kim still work for SureFire and is this a SureFire funded operation or privately financed by PK?
 
Re: Icon Flashlight by Surefire

Mercaptan said:
I guess two little questions and I would understand the situation... does Paul Kim still work for SureFire and is this a SureFire funded operation or privately financed by PK?
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Yes, PK is a VP at SureFire.
ICON is a new venture for SureFire.
 
Re: Icon Flashlight by Surefire

I broke down and ordered one. 2-cell version.

They look interesting enough and PK is behind them.

I hope they are KISS, which makes them the perfect gift for non-flashaholics.

bernie
 
Re: Icon Flashlight by Surefire

KDOG3, I don't think there is any intention of trying to silence you, but we do not need the political content of that post in this thread, or indeed on this forum. Comment of that type belongs in the Underground. Please edit your post to remove it.
 
Re: Icon Flashlight by Surefire

Kiessling said:
I broke down and ordered one. 2-cell version.

They look interesting enough and PK is behind them.

I hope they are KISS, which makes them the perfect gift for non-flashaholics.

bernie
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Wait, I think I missed something! Where is the link to order these??? I was thinking my life was in need of some spider leg sex approach, but if they end up sending me a flashlight instead, I guess I won't be THAT disappointed (unlike the spiders)...
 
Kiessling thanks for biting the bullet! Im sure we are all looking forward to your review now just to wait for snail mail 😗
 
Re: Icon Flashlight by Surefire

brucec said:
Wait, I think I missed something! Where is the link to order these??? I was thinking my life was in need of some spider leg sex approach, but if they end up sending me a flashlight instead, I guess I won't be THAT disappointed (unlike the spiders)...
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Saw some on Ebay
 
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