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Sold/Expired Sales Thread for the Black Edition PhD-M6 custom battery pack

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Sweet, I like teaser pics.

Here you go - and thanks much for the order 🙂

Yours are the first packs that I am formally testing with both the AW black cells and the new IMR cells:
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Will
 
Sweet! Thanks for the teaser pics.

Is there any advantage to running IMR 17650 vs. AW 17670 protected cells?

The most power hungry bulb I'm using is the WA1185.

The most used bulb will be the WA1318 (1331).

Also considering the MN61.

-Ed
 
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Sweet! Thanks for the teaser pics.

Is there any advantage to running IMR 17650 vs. AW 17670 protected cells?

The most power hungry bulb I'm using is the WA1185.

The most used bulb will be the WA1318 (1331).

Also considering the MN61.

-Ed

So far I have found two data points worth mentioning:
1) The IMR cells don't sag as much (less internal resistance), so they drive the higher voltage bulbs (for ex. at 10.8v) better, but they have less capacity. So while the AW cells will sag a lot and don't operate at 10.8 at all, the IMR cells will operate at this level for a small amount of time. Not a big deal, but worth mentioning it.

2) Usage with high current bulbs (like with the MN21). With the AW cells, even with the soft-start, the MN21 is still marginal, and as the cells get used more and more, eventually the integrated cell protection triggers (specifically the short circuit protection), and one of the 3x cells in the pack will open circuit, so there is no operation possible. You remove the cells from the pack, re-assemble, and the cells "might" or "might not" trigger again. At this point I consider the AW cells "done with" for MN21 usage. Still, those "used" cells still work with bulbs that have a smaller current draw (like the MN61), and in fact, my three sets of "retired" AW cells get used exclusively with the MN61 now.

BUT with the IMR cells, since there is no cell protection, this does not happen - so if you are using the MN21 a LOT, I would use the IMR cells instead of the AW cells, even though the IMR cells have lower capacity - you are not hurting the IMR cells as much as the AW cells 😉

Will
 
Yikes. I wasn't really planning on using the MN21. But now I'm just going to avoid it completely. Not worth the expense of killing such expensive cells.

Like I said before, my favorite bulbs are WA1185 and WA1318. Also thinking of the MN61.
 
Yes I bought two sets of three of AW's 17670 cells and one set will no longer power the MN21 due to one cell being unable to sustain the current and thus triggering protection. I think as long as you're draining at 2C or lower, the AW cells are still the better choice.

I'll continue to use the MN21 with my IMR 17650 cells though because that bulb is just so much fun!
 
Seems that the Surefire MN61 and the Lumens Factory HO-M6R are pretty comparable to each other in terms of brightness and runtime.

Which one would work best with the PhD_M6 pack?
 
Seems that the Surefire MN61 and the Lumens Factory HO-M6R are pretty comparable to each other in terms of brightness and runtime.

Which one would work best with the PhD_M6 pack?

I don't own/have the HO-M6R, so no hands-on experience.

I do however have and use the MN61 (at 9.2V) in my second M6, and I like the combination of output vs. runtime that I get.

Will
 
I heard that the MN61 has a significantly whiter tint than the warmer color of others, like MN20 and WA1185.

Is that what you are seeing with your bulbs?
 
I heard that the MN61 has a significantly whiter tint than the warmer color of others, like MN20 and WA1185.

Is that what you are seeing with your bulbs?

It all depends at what voltage you drive each bulb - all other things being equal, the one bulb being driven at the higher end of the recommended voltage range will likely appear whiter, while the other bulb being driven at a lower voltage will appear warmer/more yellow.

Will
 
I was going to drive the MN61 at the recommended voltage.

My 2 PhD-M6 Packs arrived safe and sound. Got them loaded up in my two M6's now.
 
Hi,

As a complete newbee on this forum, i was wandering if you can still deliver the custom battery pack for the M6.
If so, can you give me a price for it, including shipping costs to Belgium?

THanks in advance.

Best regards. Ben.
 
Hi,

As a complete newbee on this forum, i was wandering if you can still deliver the custom battery pack for the M6.
If so, can you give me a price for it, including shipping costs to Belgium?

THanks in advance.

Best regards. Ben.

Yes, I still have them for sale. All of the pricing information is on post #1. Pricing for the first pack is $150 plus shipping (2nd pack is $100). Shipping price to Belgium depends on the service type (first class vs. priority). I recommend priority, which is about $15 for 1 or two packs.

I would need to know what 4x voltage points you want. Post #1 has a lot of good information on typical sets of values, as well as a link to a spreadsheet with many popular bulbs and the recommended voltage for each bulb.

Will
 
Yes, I still have them for sale. All of the pricing information is on post #1. Pricing for the first pack is $150 plus shipping (2nd pack is $100). Shipping price to Belgium depends on the service type (first class vs. priority). I recommend priority, which is about $15 for 1 or two packs.

I would need to know what 4x voltage points you want. Post #1 has a lot of good information on typical sets of values, as well as a link to a spreadsheet with many popular bulbs and the recommended voltage for each bulb.

Will

I've send you an email for more info.
 
Update: I gotten enough orders that I made a new batch of 10 controller/regulator boards:
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Those of you who ordered this last week and this weekend, should get your packs finished this week 😉

Will
 
Will,

Just a quick note to let you know that I received the M6 battery packs today! They are a true marvel of engineering! It just goes to show what we in America can still do when we put our minds to something we are passionate about. Cheers to you and your business partner on a job well done :twothumbs. I'm going to be ordering an M6LT so when I get it you'll be hearing from me again (soon!).

Thank you Will and thanks to the Forum for the vast amount of information that is available to all who seek the light!

M1Garand
 
Will,

Just a quick note to let you know that I received the M6 battery packs today! They are a true marvel of engineering! It just goes to show what we in America can still do when we put our minds to something we are passionate about. Cheers to you and your business partner on a job well done :twothumbs. I'm going to be ordering an M6LT so when I get it you'll be hearing from me again (soon!).

Thank you Will and thanks to the Forum for the vast amount of information that is available to all who seek the light!

M1Garand

Thank you for your kind words - many thanks also go to Eric who designed and manufactured the custom battery carriers for this project 😉

Will
 
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