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Sold/Expired Sales Thread: USB Micro Charger for Li-Ion/Poly Cells

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Woo hoo!! Got mine today. Add me to the next group, because I'll be getting another one. 100ma again.

Question: What are the states of the LED? So far I've seen green and off. I remember reading that off means fully charged. Is green the only other state? Thanks, and it looks like a great piece of work. The case was a pleasant surprise.
 
I am thinking of picking up one of the 300ma chargers in the next batch that sabrewolf makes. However, have the odd/premature terminations that kremer and/or wapkil reported in Dec 09 regarding the charging rate been fully resolved to their satisfaction? I re-read the subsequent posts and maybe I missed something.
 
I am thinking of picking up one of the 300ma chargers in the next batch that sabrewolf makes. However, have the odd/premature terminations that kremer and/or wapkil reported in Dec 09 regarding the charging rate been fully resolved to their satisfaction? I re-read the subsequent posts and maybe I missed something.


It seems as if a few charging I.C.s from the last batch were faulty.
I am replacing those for free.. So no worries. I still use my dual-bay
that has the exact chips in them. They both charge right up to 4.2-21v
Consistantly everytime. And those were made early last year.
 
I am thinking of picking up one of the 300ma chargers in the next batch that sabrewolf makes. However, have the odd/premature terminations that kremer and/or wapkil reported in Dec 09 regarding the charging rate been fully resolved to their satisfaction? I re-read the subsequent posts and maybe I missed something.

It seems as if a few charging I.C.s from the last batch were faulty. I am replacing those for free..

Yup, I can confirm that Robert promised to send the replacement charger to me, although I haven't received it yet 🙂
 
At the risk of sounding really stupid, :nana: how do you know if the charger ic is bad?

If the charger does Not bring the batteries up to 4.18-4.20v,
Then your charger is faulty 🙁 I double checked some previous
chargers from awhile ago and they did charge completely.
So this is a problem with "Some" chips in the last batch.

And.. I just got shipment confirmation of my new batch.
I will be testing them out as soon as i get them.
So please be patient folks 🙂 And if anyone has been
experiencing the same problem as Wapkil, Please let me know.
 
If the charger does Not bring the batteries up to 4.18-4.20v,
Then your charger is faulty 🙁 I double checked some previous
chargers from awhile ago and they did charge completely.
So this is a problem with "Some" chips in the last batch.

And.. I just got shipment confirmation of my new batch.
I will be testing them out as soon as i get them.
So please be patient folks 🙂 And if anyone has been
experiencing the same problem as Wapkil, Please let me know.
Sabrewolf, I'm afraid I'm on the same boat. Last time I checked, the charger I have won't top-off cells if they're at 3.96V. 😕 Still gotta run some more charge/discharge tests to verify the behavior. 🙁
 
Sabrewolf, I'm afraid I'm on the same boat. Last time I checked, the charger I have won't top-off cells if they're at 3.96V. 😕 Still gotta run some more charge/discharge tests to verify the behavior. 🙁

The charger does not top off cells with that high of a voltage at a fast rate.
It is designed to tricklcharge batts very slowly when they are above 3.9v
Try discharging them like you said, And put em back on the charger.
As far as the datasheet is concerned, If it stops charging at 4.18-4.20,
its working correctly :twothumbs
 
I haven't asked before and since I don't have a replacement charger yet - Sabrewolf, have you already sent it to me?

In the meantime I checked how the one I have works in the 90mA version. I broke the connection to the LED when I was resoldering it 😱 but it works otherwise so I measured it:



As you see, when charging at 90mA it finishes the "fast charge" phase at ~4.1V and then switches to charging with a small, diminishing current.

There are two problems here. It took 17 hours to fully charge a battery that was half full when inserted. The charger also didn't stop charging after it reached 4.20V - it kept trickle charging the battery. I waited half an hour and when I disconnected it, the battery was 4.2015V. I don't know if it would continue charging - I didn't want to wait another tens of hours to see it. If it trickle charges infinitely, I think it would take around a hundred hours before a 14500 battery is damaged.


What worries me, is that the measurements in this post and in my previous one for 280mA current (#233) are perfectly in accordance with the IC specification, although not with what I would expect from an Li-Ion charger.

If you look at the charge profiles in the specification, the IC is expected to stop its "high current" phase at ~3.9V and ~4.1V for 280mA (DC charge) and 90mA (USB charge) respectively:



This is exactly what I and others saw here. The trouble is, that operating this way it takes around 24 hours to fully charge an empty 14500 battery at 90mA and paradoxically much longer, probably around two days, to charge it with 280mA current. For a 18650 it could be a week :shrug: According to the specification, this behavior seems to be perfectly correct so I'm not sure if my charger is really faulty or this is the way it is designed.

Maybe this IC works correctly only for smallest batteries? Sabrewolf, what do you think?
 
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The only thing i can say is that some chargers in that batch were bad..
Nothing else :thinking: I did not send your charger yet because i waited
for my supplier to refresh thier supply so i can skip the batch that
i had before. They ARE on order and will be at my house this coming
wee for Sure :thumbsup: Shipments go out shortly afterwards.

Wapkil, Please don't use that charger anymore if it does not work well.
 
The only thing i can say is that some chargers in that batch were bad..
Nothing else :thinking: I did not send your charger yet because i waited
for my supplier to refresh thier supply so i can skip the batch that
i had before. They ARE on order and will be at my house this coming
wee for Sure :thumbsup: Shipments go out shortly afterwards.

Wapkil, Please don't use that charger anymore if it does not work well.

I wasn't planing to use this charger. I modified and measured it only to see how it behaves. I have no use for a 90mA version now. Thanks for the information about shipments - just wanted to check if I should start to worry about it being lost in the mail somewhere.
 
The charger does not top off cells with that high of a voltage at a fast rate.
It is designed to tricklcharge batts very slowly when they are above 3.9v
Try discharging them like you said, And put em back on the charger.
As far as the datasheet is concerned, If it stops charging at 4.18-4.20,
its working correctly :twothumbs

Many :thanks:
Will report back whenever I get to testing this.
 
The Remaining New orders and Replacements
will be finished up this weekend and shipped
out on monday for sure.. Promise :thumbsup:
 
Next batch is getting finished up :grin2:
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All the chargers hit the mailbox tomorrow!!! Woot!!!!
So make sure you check the mail in a couple of days folks 😀
 
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