SF M3T to Devastator?

[ianb]

Is there a conversion to do this and add a 123 cell to an M3T?
thanks, Ian /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[kakster]

There's a cell extender, i think the part number is A19, which adds one cell length to certain existing bodies. Im pretty sure it fits on the M3, but unfortunately its only available in black HA. If you can live with this, it should work fine, with the correct bulbs (MN60, MN61 and N62).

 

[Nerd]

Don't even bother with the MN60 or the MN61, just go straight to the N62. It's a 500 lumens options for pla... eh.. lighting things up really well for short burst of 2-3 mins. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Size15's]

I agree, the N62 rocks!

The A19 comes only in Black and putting one on an M3T body means you can't use the CombatGrip...

Shame there aren't any A19's in HA.

 

[ianb]

Okay, thanks, so it is possible if not pretty! So I guess if I got 3 A19's I could get the 20 minute run time of the M6 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

thanks for the replys, Ian /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[kakster]

The M6 runs its 6 cells in 2 parallel strings of 3 to give 9 volts with double the capacity of the M3. I dont think there's a SF bulb in circulation that'll take 18v.
But you would have a really long bar of aluminium to play with.

 

[ResQTech]

Nice sneaky link there Al...

 

[ianb]

aha, well least I didn't waste my money. I do like the combat grip so maybe I'll just save up for a couple of years and do it properly and get an M6,

thanks for your help,

thanks, Ian /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Topper]

I purchased and blew out 2 N62 lamps in A dang near heart beat
With my M4 w/2 A19's running three 168s Pilas the MN60 & MN61 has worked great Blew the N62 Real fast I am confused.
Topper /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Size15's]

I think it's to do with how the bulb and batteries interact under load - the N62 is a very specialised Lamp Assembly that is really harsh on the four SF123A.

I post links like that all the time but most people don't seem to comment.

Al /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Topper]

Hi Al sorry if the link offended you not my intent its been there awhile and I consider Jon A friend even though we have never met. If that was An English dry sense of humor?
Alrighighty then. I AM size seven's I guess that makes me the underdog😀 As for the bulb I had to try it. I did try them in A M4 w/4 Surfire 123A. I have 2 M4's one of them runs on 3 Pila's 168s w/ 2 a19's one runs 4 SF 123's I bought 2 N62's Both blew in a heartbeat. I am in Arkansas So A heart beat here my mean something different there.
No harm intended.
Topper /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[kakster]

It might have something to do with the Pilas having lower internal resistance than CR123s. This could mean that while the voltage is pretty close, the bulb is drawing way too much current. Try asking in the electronics forum, im sure the folk in there could tell you.

 

[Topper]

Hi kakster I will not try that anymore. It failed both on Pilas and SF 123's At thirty bucks a pop I am about done testing /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/broke.gif I am not up on the internal stuff I just like stuff to work.
Topper /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Size15's]

I'm sorry, I didn't realise that the N62 failed on SF123As pretty much instantly fresh out of the packet! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

I hope you called SureFire? I'm sure they'd sort you out a new N62. It is the most expensive SureFire Lamp Assembly so to suffer the loss of one to experimentation must have been hard, but the N62 should function fine powered by four SF123As.

Please let me know how you get on with SureFire.

Thanks

Al

 

[Topper]

Hi Al,I did not get them directecly from SF I got them on line from A dealer that can no longer sell Surefire items.
Hey you live and learn, just becasuse I did not fair well
does not mean They are all bad. I have had Great results with the MN60 & MN61 with SF123's as well as Pila's 168s as in 2 in the M4 & 3 in the M4/2 A19's. I would not be comfortable hitting up SF for replacements on the N62's
Topper /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Size15's]

You should call them at least about the N62 lost to SF123As in the M4. I would.

Al

 

[oldgrandpajack]

The N62 was designed to be used in the 12PM and 12ZM, which have a collar between the bezel and the body. This adds resistance.

The M4 has no collar between the bezel and body. This should have less resistance.

Could this be the reason for blowing a N62 in the M4, with 123A's?

If so, the M3T plus the A19, might be better for the N62. This combination should have similar resistance to the 12PM and 12ZM.

oldgrandpajack

 

[Topper]

Oldgrandpajack, I have the L6 and have A19's KT1's and could put this together I do not wish (Or Have) the money to
buy another N62 to check it out. I have no doubt you are on the right track on this. I also have no doubt I can not afford to try it. Best of luck to those that do. I have blown too many lamps of late /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/broke.gif
Topper /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Prolepsis]

I am getting two new N62 from another CPF friend (being shipped as I type). Will try my LAs with new SureFire batteries in my M4 and report back.

 

[ianb]

so...if I use my m3t(L6+KT4) does this have the required resistance to not fry the N62 or am I missing something? Also on a sub point the oval nature of the beam pattern(MN15/16), are there any alternative bulbs to give a less oval nature and the high power?

thanks, Ian /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif