Should Arc Light be brighter than Infinity?
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The_LED_Museum
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DaveH:
I received Gen II Arc Light the other day, should it be brighter than the infinity? Or about the same?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The Arc should kick the Infinity's bunghole when it comes to brightness.
I received Gen II Arc Light the other day, should it be brighter than the infinity? Or about the same?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The Arc should kick the Infinity's bunghole when it comes to brightness.
sflate
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> I received Gen II Arc Light the other day, should it be brighter than the infinity? Or about the same? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My Arc-AAA is brighter than my infinity, but only a bit. Keep in mind that from previous posts it appears that I have a great infinity. Maybe you also got a lucky one (one of only a few from what I've been reading)
My Arc-AAA is brighter than my infinity, but only a bit. Keep in mind that from previous posts it appears that I have a great infinity. Maybe you also got a lucky one (one of only a few from what I've been reading)
Gransee
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Interesting Dave. It should be noticably brighter than the CMG. Since we all can't see the beam for ourself- why not just send it back and we will test it. If it isn't up to snuff, we'll replace it with one that is! Our address is on our website.
Peter Gransee
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sflate
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After further review...
My curiosity was sparked and I decided to try my Infinity and Arc-AAA both with fresh batteries and the Arc-AAA was very noticibly brighter than the Infinity. Because the battery in the Arc-AAA was used, this brought up another thought. Peter, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Arc-AAA's circuit suppose to keep the light at a constant brightness until going into 'moon' mode? Has anyone charted the light output verses time to see if there is a dropoff over time? Hopefully I was just using a very depleted battery. (I will check it out with VOM under load) Either way, with a new battery it blows away the Infinity now.
My curiosity was sparked and I decided to try my Infinity and Arc-AAA both with fresh batteries and the Arc-AAA was very noticibly brighter than the Infinity. Because the battery in the Arc-AAA was used, this brought up another thought. Peter, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Arc-AAA's circuit suppose to keep the light at a constant brightness until going into 'moon' mode? Has anyone charted the light output verses time to see if there is a dropoff over time? Hopefully I was just using a very depleted battery. (I will check it out with VOM under load) Either way, with a new battery it blows away the Infinity now.
Go Go Gadget Flashlight
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I seem to recall a lengthy discussion on the Arc's runtime/brightness a while back.
Now, I may be remebering wrong, but I thought the Arc started really bright, then decreased just a bit and leveled out until the battery finally gave in about 5 hours later.
Anybody else remember the thread and the results?
Now, I may be remebering wrong, but I thought the Arc started really bright, then decreased just a bit and leveled out until the battery finally gave in about 5 hours later.
Anybody else remember the thread and the results?
The_LED_Museum
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gadget:
I seem to recall a lengthy discussion on the Arc's runtime/brightness a while back.
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Well, since I was one of those who burnt up about fifteen bucks worth of batteries in these things, let's see if I can find the original topic and all of the results...
Here's one set of tests... http://www.candlepowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000425
And here's another... http://www.candlepowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000411
And another... http://www.candlepowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000468
I'm sure there are a couple more of these, but this ought to get you off on the right foot.
I seem to recall a lengthy discussion on the Arc's runtime/brightness a while back.
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Well, since I was one of those who burnt up about fifteen bucks worth of batteries in these things, let's see if I can find the original topic and all of the results...
Here's one set of tests... http://www.candlepowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000425
And here's another... http://www.candlepowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000411
And another... http://www.candlepowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000468
I'm sure there are a couple more of these, but this ought to get you off on the right foot.
sflate
Enlightened
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> Well, since I was one of those who burnt up about fifteen bucks worth of batteries in these things, let's see if I can find the original topic and all of the results... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Your $15 hasn't been wasted. That was exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks!
Your $15 hasn't been wasted. That was exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks!
The_LED_Museum
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Marked:
Didn't I read that the circuit was impoved in gen2? Shouldn't that mean more test?
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It might, but not until I actually have one of those things in my lab. :-O
Didn't I read that the circuit was impoved in gen2? Shouldn't that mean more test?
It might, but not until I actually have one of those things in my lab. :-O
The_LED_Museum
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sflate:
Your $15 hasn't been wasted. That was exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nothing's a true "waste" when the end result is of use to somebody else.
Now, if all I did was load in the batteries and let it burn at the bottom of a toilet or tub without bothering to check in on it, now that would be a waste.
Your $15 hasn't been wasted. That was exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nothing's a true "waste" when the end result is of use to somebody else.
Now, if all I did was load in the batteries and let it burn at the bottom of a toilet or tub without bothering to check in on it, now that would be a waste.
D
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I feel compelled to chime in that my 2nd Gen Arc is also not quite as bright as my Infinity. I don't have any means of measure this but my eyes, but at anywhere from 1 - 20 ft range the Infinity edges out the ARC.
With this in mind I tested the battery life, and with a new AAA Duracell Ultra I got over 20 hours in the bright mode, compared to the expected ~5 hrs! My test was not as "clean" as it could have been (turned it off twice for long periods while I went to work, and it actually died while I was sleeping so I don't have an exact number), but the result was impressive regardless.
Before anyone says "send it back", let me say that I prefer the longer battery run for my purpose, so I'm not complaining.
Gary
With this in mind I tested the battery life, and with a new AAA Duracell Ultra I got over 20 hours in the bright mode, compared to the expected ~5 hrs! My test was not as "clean" as it could have been (turned it off twice for long periods while I went to work, and it actually died while I was sleeping so I don't have an exact number), but the result was impressive regardless.
Before anyone says "send it back", let me say that I prefer the longer battery run for my purpose, so I'm not complaining.
Gary
vcal
Flashlight Enthusiast
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DaveH:
I received Gen II Arc Light the other day, should it be brighter than the infinity? Or about the same?
I don't have a light meter, but they seem pretty similar in power. Do I need a Lithium AAA to get the power up?
TIA,
DaveH<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hello Dave,
Ditto to what KenB said.That Arc should be TWICE as bright as your Infinity, and then some...(unless you have world's BEST Infinity)
Too bad No Li AAAs yet avail, but it sure would be great if they were. Fyi-My own Arc. puts out only slightly less light than the white Photon II. (measured on two different meters)
I received Gen II Arc Light the other day, should it be brighter than the infinity? Or about the same?
I don't have a light meter, but they seem pretty similar in power. Do I need a Lithium AAA to get the power up?
TIA,
DaveH<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hello Dave,
Ditto to what KenB said.That Arc should be TWICE as bright as your Infinity, and then some...(unless you have world's BEST Infinity)
Too bad No Li AAAs yet avail, but it sure would be great if they were. Fyi-My own Arc. puts out only slightly less light than the white Photon II. (measured on two different meters)
DebtFree
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I have 2 Arc's, and they are equal in brightness and beam color. They are almost as bright as my Photon . . . and (as Telephony said) they kick my Infinity's butt! I guess a few underpowered circuits got through the QC inspector by mistake.
Can't wait for that XL!!!
Regards,
Can't wait for that XL!!!
Regards,
Mr Ted Bear
Flashlight Enthusiast
Using the eternaLight, with its 13 levels of brightness, it appears that the Infinity is appx 6-9% when compared to the eternaLight.
The ARC seems to be in the 19-24% range
The ARC seems to be in the 19-24% range
D
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Strangely enough my ARC is brighter now, clearly brighter than my Infinity. I had posted above about the ARC being less bright, but with longer battery life.
My working theory is that I was somehow stuck in the dimmer "moon" mode during my initial usage and battery life tests? I'm not sure what might have triggered the change. When I first got the ARC I put a parade of different alkaline and NiMh batteries through it looking for differences, and it was always less bright than the Infinity. Today a put a fresh AAA Duracell in for the first time since the rundown test and it was like an entirely new light
Gary
My working theory is that I was somehow stuck in the dimmer "moon" mode during my initial usage and battery life tests? I'm not sure what might have triggered the change. When I first got the ARC I put a parade of different alkaline and NiMh batteries through it looking for differences, and it was always less bright than the Infinity. Today a put a fresh AAA Duracell in for the first time since the rundown test and it was like an entirely new light
Gary
