Rotten Ron
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This country would be a better place if all the people who dont like this country were gone.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I tend to agree. If I had been paying attention to this thread earlier, I may well have done the dirty deed. But hey, maybe we've moved past that and can have some civil discussion now?Originally posted by Wits' End:
It seem to me that if flames can lock a thread on a hot topic like Pro-Life. Flames should lock this thread also. But I'm just a Flashaholic
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">When did God tell you this? How did he tell you, burning bush, bolt of lightning, sent an angel, how? Thanks for the heads- up no one here had received the official word.Originally posted by Onyx:
Please don't invoke God into this discussion. God did NOT instigate your nation's leaders, nor do you have Him on your side on the war.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">We are aware of them but the U.S., best described as the 911 force to the world can't do it all! All the peace lovers can work on those two countries. They can shower them with flowers and love to stop the genocide.Originally posted by EMPOWERTORCH:
The war seems pointless because there are far worse things going on in Africa (Zimbabwe) and the former Yugoslavia (massive ethnic cleansing etc...) that we should be all aware of...it would appear that the war is a way of these nations hiding their dirty linen.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Dave---Let's be nice to Spain, please.Germany, France, Spain, Australia and others let me say we are busy at the moment but if you remain on hold we will get to your issues just as soon as we can.[/QB]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Oh my goodness, oil has 100% to do with it! How the heck did we get here to begin with? Gulf War I was because as Iraq was amassing its troops on the Kuwaiti boarder to settle a century old land dispute, the US saw it on our spy satellites, sent our diplomat to ask Saddam what the scoop was, he told us, and we didn't say NO!Originally posted by darell:
I'm not implying that the pending war is exclusively about oil. But is there anybody who thinks that oil has _nothing_ to do with it? Hope not.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes they do. And it just so happens that the majority of these OPEC countries are headed by Kings, Dictators, and various Fascists. Now isn't that irony at its best?!Originally posted by darell:
Countries with energy (let's call that energy OIL) hold some cards, do they not? There are contries that wouldn't even be blips on our RADAR if it were not for their oil reserves. These countries effect our foreign policy in a way that would be laughable (I mean if it weren't so scary) if we had no need for the carrot that they dangle in front of us. My feeling is that if we didn't need energy from elsewhere, we wouldn't get into some of the jambs that we keep falling into.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well Ron, again your ignorance of this country and its history have gotten the best of your eloquent writing skills.Originally posted by Rotten Ron:
This country would be a better place if all the people who dont like this country were gone.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Max... I think that's pretty much what we'd all like to see. It's sure as hell what I would like... if I had a choice. But how long are we supposed to give him? He's had 12 years already! He has thumbed his nose at us and funded terrorist groups that are running around the WORLD raising hell! Yes people, this is a WORLD issue!!!I'm in favor of disarming Iraq. If Saddam is willing to do it volutarily, I suppose that will suffice. That's the pledge we made. Personally I'd rather see him deposed. The world, the middle east, and the Iraqi people would be better off without him.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Seems to me that the UN is the one bullying everyone into backing down. We're doing what we agreed to do. We are standing behind our word and the word of the UN. Where is everyone else who signed up for the same thing? How good is your word now?His blatent violation of the conditions require that the UN act to enforce their own terms, otherwise UN declarations are not worth the paper they're written on.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Rush??? I think we're creeping along....Originally posted by Josh:
I really link Bush needs to move slower and think a little on the repercussions of rushing in to things. I'm not saying NO WAR, I am saying think and plan and act accordingly.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Max... I think that's pretty much what we'd all like to see. It's sure as hell what I would like... if I had a choice. But how long are we supposed to give him? He's had 12 years already!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Frankly I thought this "last chance" round of UN inspections was an indulgence that neither Iraq nor the UN deserved. It was my greatest fear that Iraq and the inspectors would play hide and seek all winter long and then we would have missed our opportunity to attack in favorable weather conditions.Originally posted by Sasha:
Max posted this:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'm in favor of disarming Iraq. If Saddam is willing to do it volutarily, I suppose that will suffice. That's the pledge we made. Personally I'd rather see him deposed. The world, the middle east, and the Iraqi people would be better off without him.