Necro bump but ya I don't think it's happening. Too bad....
Shouldn't Lumens Factory Have a Turbo Head?
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Well, we pretty much started on it in about March of 2013.
This thread is from 2009, but we had no interest in making anything like this until almost Dec of 2012 as you can read from my old post.
It took us 1.5 years to finish this head as it undergone many design changes.
We literally had to redesign the head 3 times from ground up because of various reasons.
But anyways, here it a picture of it and it should be available soon.
So no, it was not a pipe dream. You had no idea how hard it was to make this a reality.
This thread is from 2009, but we had no interest in making anything like this until almost Dec of 2012 as you can read from my old post.
It took us 1.5 years to finish this head as it undergone many design changes.
We literally had to redesign the head 3 times from ground up because of various reasons.
But anyways, here it a picture of it and it should be available soon.
So no, it was not a pipe dream. You had no idea how hard it was to make this a reality.
Awesome. It looks great. Conte this is a turbo head supposed to be like a kt head or something similar and should take the LA designed for them. They look like http://www.lumensfactory.com/online_shop_product.php?id=53&cid=6&sid=16&page=1
Kind of like a tower with a bulb on the end
Kind of like a tower with a bulb on the end
Itmmay be m threads. We don't know yet
M threads would be kind of pointless no ? As the M series lights already come with a head.
I suppose if you have an LED unit and want to convert back to incan.
I was under the impression that the demand was for a big turbo head for the C bodies.
Funny thing is I have an M turbo head kit, but no M nor C.
I suppose if you have an LED unit and want to convert back to incan.
I was under the impression that the demand was for a big turbo head for the C bodies.
Funny thing is I have an M turbo head kit, but no M nor C.
I agree it should be c threads but they weren't sure when making it. I thought you used d26 incan drop ins yet you say you don't have a c or m light? If you have an led unit it's just a drop in. Don't need another head
Yeah, I got a D26 body, but it's not a C.
It's some chinese dealie I got off the ebays many years back.
I takes D26 but the parts are not compatible with any surefire parts that I'm aware of.
As for M, I used to have a Megalennium. So I got the adapters to put an FM3X on it. Still have those adapter parts.
Used some of them to mod Maglites to take MN bulbs.
It's some chinese dealie I got off the ebays many years back.
I takes D26 but the parts are not compatible with any surefire parts that I'm aware of.
As for M, I used to have a Megalennium. So I got the adapters to put an FM3X on it. Still have those adapter parts.
Used some of them to mod Maglites to take MN bulbs.
Timothybil
Flashlight Enthusiast
Well, the box says Seraph, and that is a C-compatible flashlight (I have the tri-mode Seraph 6 and love it). I think the big question is where the price point is going to be. Also, it would be nice if they eventually make an LED version. A head that size with one of their XP-G leds in it would be great for my Seraph. Thanks Mark for persevering.
Hey Guys,
Thanks for all the great comments and I think I will answer some questions here.
So, what thread? M
Why?
Because you can use a C to M adaptor, but it doesn't work the other way.
What is the point? M lights comes with KT4s
Not all of them, M3 (not M3T) come with the small head and not the KT4.
So this head can be an option for them.
But the main point is that this is an entirely different head.
- It is larger then the KT4, the reflectors are larger as well.
- It is entirely modular, you can disassemble it to clean and swap the reflectors from Orange Peel to Mirror Finish in an instant.
- Yes, both reflectors comes with the package. 1 Head, 2 reflectors.
- 1 thing that is similar to the KT4 is the shock dampening ring, which i think is a good design.
- With the modular design, we can and is prepared to make different reflectors in the near future for this head.
And Tim,
The head is actually LED compatible.
In fact, we have made a new line of LED tower dropins that will launch with the head next week.
They are XP-G2 S2 available in neutral white and warm 90-CRI versions.
The price will be reasonable on the head and dropins.
But this is not a sales thread, so I don't want to talk about pricing and stuff.
You can check our site next week.
Cheers.
Mark
Thanks for all the great comments and I think I will answer some questions here.
So, what thread? M
Why?
Because you can use a C to M adaptor, but it doesn't work the other way.
What is the point? M lights comes with KT4s
Not all of them, M3 (not M3T) come with the small head and not the KT4.
So this head can be an option for them.
But the main point is that this is an entirely different head.
- It is larger then the KT4, the reflectors are larger as well.
- It is entirely modular, you can disassemble it to clean and swap the reflectors from Orange Peel to Mirror Finish in an instant.
- Yes, both reflectors comes with the package. 1 Head, 2 reflectors.
- 1 thing that is similar to the KT4 is the shock dampening ring, which i think is a good design.
- With the modular design, we can and is prepared to make different reflectors in the near future for this head.
And Tim,
The head is actually LED compatible.
In fact, we have made a new line of LED tower dropins that will launch with the head next week.
They are XP-G2 S2 available in neutral white and warm 90-CRI versions.
The price will be reasonable on the head and dropins.
But this is not a sales thread, so I don't want to talk about pricing and stuff.
You can check our site next week.
Cheers.
Mark
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This is an led version. And an incandescent version. Just change the LA. And it appears to come with two reflectors. Maybe one is designed for led
I made my reply before seeing marks post. This is awesome . Can't wait to get one
It is the cheap HA black instead of better natural HA that would actually MATCH something, I guess that is okay if you don't mind mismatched colors. So why is it a KT4 style, I thought this thread was about a T3 style 3" turbo head lighter and smaller than the KT1/KT2 style like you promised to "sacrifice". Are the threads as sloppy as the Seraph I had a few years ago? I hope that has been improved. God damn I can only use these Lumens Factory bulbs for an hour or two at most before they darken. Such is the quality. I mentioned you need to use halogen in them, not just xenon and you blew me off. I'm not at all impressed with this turbo head.
And I told you many times M threads will kill this turbo head, but you always insisted on it because of that adapter that you think people will buy. I don't understand that reasoning at all.
cenz
Enlightened
I personally agree with you; C thread is perfect for P,Z,C body, but under the modular / compatible criteria, Im not sure C thread is reasonable.
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There were a lot of ideas floating around in this thread and they couldn't make everyone happy. I agree it's not perfect but it won't be for everyone. The black ano will match solarforce lights and there are a lot of those out there. Actually surprised they don't match the seraph Grey because that would help seraph host sales. I'm also not sure why they kept the shock isolating foam design but they did. As to the threading hopefully they include the thread adaptor to make it compatable
@ampdude. I'm not trying to single you out but you seem to be taking this as a personal insult. If their product doesn't work for you then simply don't buy one. And I've been nothing but happy with my d26 drop ins I've had and still do. I must have 12h on my eo4 and it's stillggoing strong. Same with my ho9
@ampdude. I'm not trying to single you out but you seem to be taking this as a personal insult. If their product doesn't work for you then simply don't buy one. And I've been nothing but happy with my d26 drop ins I've had and still do. I must have 12h on my eo4 and it's stillggoing strong. Same with my ho9
Juggernaut
Flashlight Enthusiast
WOW, this thread is still going, that’s surprising to saythe least, NOT bad but surprising, I really really hope these eventuallysurface, long range Incan goodness is much appreciated, or insane output from aP serious host.
I agree with vicv, there were a lot of suggestions and ideas around and we had to make a choice which to use.
We can't satisfy everyone, we can just make what we think is best.
Ampdude, no need to take it personally. I will take a few minutes to explain.
The first designs of this head was actually in HA3 natural, but the colours were not very stable and I know it is going to cause problems.
That is why we went with the black HA, we made sure it is very nice high quality black HA.
The machines and toolings to make halogen xenon lamps are actually completely different than machines that make pure xenon lamps.
So I am not actually disregarding your suggestions, it is just that we have different machines.
Lamps with the halogen has the halogen cycle to help regenerate the filament which slow the darkening process of the lamp as you understand.
But pure xenon lamps have the advantage of higher achievable colour temperature.
To combat the problem with darkening (degeneration of the filament), we use a much higher pressure on the pure xenon lamps than the halogen xenon lamps.
As to the M thread thing, I made that decision so the product can have a wider audience because M users cannot use a C thread head.
I wanted the M user to be able to use this head as well.
If you have suggestions, I am more than happy to hear them.
It is not like this is our last turbohead, we can make more and also variations of this head.
There is always room for future upgrades and new product, my friend.
The Turbohead and LED towers are released and in the Online Shop now if anyone is interested.
Cheers,
We can't satisfy everyone, we can just make what we think is best.
Ampdude, no need to take it personally. I will take a few minutes to explain.
The first designs of this head was actually in HA3 natural, but the colours were not very stable and I know it is going to cause problems.
That is why we went with the black HA, we made sure it is very nice high quality black HA.
The machines and toolings to make halogen xenon lamps are actually completely different than machines that make pure xenon lamps.
So I am not actually disregarding your suggestions, it is just that we have different machines.
Lamps with the halogen has the halogen cycle to help regenerate the filament which slow the darkening process of the lamp as you understand.
But pure xenon lamps have the advantage of higher achievable colour temperature.
To combat the problem with darkening (degeneration of the filament), we use a much higher pressure on the pure xenon lamps than the halogen xenon lamps.
As to the M thread thing, I made that decision so the product can have a wider audience because M users cannot use a C thread head.
I wanted the M user to be able to use this head as well.
If you have suggestions, I am more than happy to hear them.
It is not like this is our last turbohead, we can make more and also variations of this head.
There is always room for future upgrades and new product, my friend.
The Turbohead and LED towers are released and in the Online Shop now if anyone is interested.
Cheers,
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Justin Case
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Can the buyer specify which reflector is pre-installed in the head? Is the second reflector sealed in packaging to avoid getting foreign matter on the reflective surface while in storage? What are the reflector diameter and overall TH diameter? The LF web site for the TH says "Disassemble without using any tools, easy to clean and switch reflectors." In my experience, it is extremely easy to damage reflector surfaces when trying to clean off even the most minor specs of dust. Do you include instructions on how to properly clean a reflector? Does LF provide any cleaning kits/supplies?
