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Thanks for your interest Bill it is my pleasure!
UPz the MiX6 because of its metal shell causes a short and i haven't figured out a workaround yet. Will keep trying :D
IMHO, 10 is a bit low. If I didn't have the USC and I was looking at purchasing the MC3000, I'd be asking for it to allow up to 100 as well (or at least 50) so that it could also do similar cycle testing without having to be babied all of the time.
Ooh, i noticed that a firmware update has become available on the server, earlier versions are gone yikes:



It seems that the max N of CYCLE got increased from 10 to the requested 99 :thumbsup:. Testing the new FW1.07 will take some time during which i hopefully will figure out what/how 1. and 4. are in detail :shrug:
 
Well the MC3000 is on my list of must buys. I'll be watching for it's release to the general public.

Thanks kerisl for the information and updates!!
Bill

+1. We await with bated breath.

Q. Who is kerisl?
A. Ah, Kreisl, I understand. (just joining in the fun while we wait)
:whistle:
 
It's encouraging that SKYRC is doing the R&D before the MC3000 is made available. Far too often some manufactures rush the R&D so they can get the product shoved out the door as fast as possible. It seems some manufactures have decided to let the end users work out the bugs for them. Unfortunately once a product has developed a bad reputation it is very difficult to recover from all the bad press. This is especially true now with the World Wide Web!!

Thank you SKYRC!! I appreciated your due diligence in perfecting the MC3000!! I'll be looking a little closer at your other products now.
Bill
 
As every year the calendar has been very busy these first months of the year, trade fairs here, trade fairs there, the team has been touring several new or upcoming products across continents as it is mandatory for manufacturing companies to do so, see the many spring trade fairs in the US.

The pdf catalog got re-updated, you may have noticed. It will be updated another few times this year, no doubt about it.

A first test version 1.0 of the iPhone bluetooth app was posted on Apple Itunes Store, i couldn't test it because i had accidentally bent the phone :crazy: and am now dependent on my Galaxy android for which the bluetooth app isn't ready yet for distribution.

Right now the country is on CNY vacation until the end of the month. Development work will resume thereafter to meet even higher standards, the existence of professional grade German charger-analyzers, and the two related products UltraSmartCharger and uCurrent Gold did help to raise the bar. We'll see more rounds of prototyping so the launch date is still pretty vague and afaik beyond spring.

Sorry for the long wait, i'll try to help it :poke:
 
Is it me or is this charger seems that it will not be priced for the consumer market? :(

Are there any plans for a cheaper model without the Bluetooth stuff?
 
Are there any plans for a cheaper model without the Bluetooth stuff?

The product will be priced for the consumer market, don't worry. For the flagship release MC3000, pro-like features and top hiq electronic components are part of the design process to learn what the bom costs do sum up to. Production cost be no major decision maker at this stage. But yes in a second future wave, with more economic considerations in place, the efforts would be to reduce dimensions and cost in order to offer a less expensive alternative, maybe a popular compact 2-slot LCD charger without bluetooth stuff. Depending on the reception of the expensivish MC3000 there are also ideas to expand on the present specs and components in some distant future to make it even more XXX :faint: hehe.

As you can see, ideas in both directions exist. The success of the initial market release will determine the path to follow. Therefore much attention and time is taken now to ensure that the charger lives up to the expectations.

Woa. What a vacuous diplomatic post lol. Makes me sound like a politician :p
 
I also noted that users could easily expand the built-in metal heat sink plate. However that's not needed. Especially during charge 4×(2.5…3.0A) there are no temperature problems with the MC3000 and the fan usually stays off, depending on the room temperature. Generated heat becomes a factor at high discharge rates, 4×-1.0A, so the smart fan would turn on. Don't worry, the topic temperature/thermals/cooling has been fully addressed in the design of the device from the very start, and i don't expect any further changes. I tested charges and discharges at full load, and everything is cool :thumbsup:

Kreisl, I take it that even despite the fan there will be overheat protection as well?
What are the temperature cutoffs for NIMH, 16850 and other cells?

Can we adjust the cuttoff temp via the app?
How accurate is the battery temperature readings?

PS - We are now in march, any idea of release date yet? Spring is only a couple weeks away. ;)
 
Sorry for the late response. With CNY and international trade fairs and parallel product releases work had to be put temporarily :) on hold but will resume soon enough :poke:. Yes we are now in march and to take wind out of the sails lemme foresee that spring can't cut it i am confident sorry. One thing i can assure you, this won't become a rushed release or development.

Heat protection. The charger has fuses, measures 5 temperatures (4 batteries, 1 internal) and it's accurate and can be followed in real-time, +0.1°C on the PC screen, +1°C on the LCD. The user can set the internal temperature when the fan should kick in (General Setting, via LCD: {Auto|OFF|ON|20|25|…|45|50}°C ), and every stored program has a user-settable battery temperature for immediate program termination (Program Setting, via LCD, PC, or smartphone app: {OFF|20|21|…|69|70}°C or {OFF|68|69|…|157|158}°F) accompanied by a loud obnoxious warning beep ta-tü ta-tah melody.

Temperature readings. Let's keep in mind, we have 8 temp sensors, 4 warm batteries, 1 populated warm PCB, no possible thermal insulation/isolation between the 4 slots/batteries, and all stuffed within the confines of a compact charger; this means that when you discharge a single 4.35V Samsung 18650 in slot1 at max discharge rate, you are going to notice a raise of slot temperature in the empty slot4. I checked the physics, it can't be helped: heat always finds its way to wander around and distribute over the place. One cannot really guide and isolate the different heat paths and heat sources. Heat is to dissipate quickly by distribution, hence one measurement (slot1) will also affect the measurement on the other end (slot4) by a noticeable bit. In other words, while the measurements are accurate per se (+0.1°C), they don't necessarily represent with 100% accuracy "the battery temperature" —a thing which doesn't exist anyway because temperature has always been a scalar field quantity T=T(t,x,y,z)— rather than the temperature at the sensor itself, and the sensor doesn't know/care from where exactly the heating originates. In fact, on the screen you can also see the influence of warm daytime versus chilly nighttime in the 24h-plot of the 'battery temperature' reading.

In short, temperature measurements are helpful for orientation yet should be taken with a grain of sugar. They represent the heat around the tip of the sensors and not from where it originates or accumulates. :devil:
 
Thanks Kreisl for the update
If I have understood correctly, if I need realistic temperature measurement on one slot, it is better to avoid charging/discharging cell in near slot

can be a solution ?
 
Hi my friends..
hola fran y f. 😉
right now i am on the road thru china vacational tourist trip
and i also plan to visit SZ factories flashlights chargers 😱
maybe i get a chance to see mc3000 tooling site and ask
about dates and more

it's beautiful over here omg… 🌆
 
Hola amigo!!

Nice to talk with you again kreisler.

I logged in here at cpf one year ago or more...

I really love this charger.

Hope you enjoy the trip!!! Have a good holidays there!
 
Hi Kreisl,

You said,

"The user can set the internal temperature when the fan should kick in (General Setting, via LCD: {Auto|OFF|ON|20|25|…|45|50}°C ),"

I dunno, this sounds like an accident waiting to happen unless there is an automatic override. Am I missing something here?
 
i fail to see potential hazards, the prudent user would leave the general settings like that. if set to off, then he she lives in cold region and doesn't want to hear any ventilation noise. accidents through ignorance could always happen, think of plugging in US plugs. not a safe thing to begin with imho🙉
 
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