SkyRC — IFA 2014 — MC3000 charger-analyzer
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I prefer the black texture filled with white ink (on keyboards I prefer PBT DyeSub keycaps or PBT doubleshot keycaps).
If I have to choose between texture and white ink I would prefer the texture because it would wipe away in 10 or more years of use.
If I have to choose between texture and white ink I would prefer the texture because it would wipe away in 10 or more years of use.
HKJ
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Not if done correctly, my computer keyboards last years before the white marking is worn off, a charger would probably last more than 100 times as long.
I clearly prefer white ink. It is easy to see and if done properly, it will last.
I have a 30+ year old calculator with inked buttons. The ink is still there.. all of it. Same was the case for my former 8 year old pc keyboard, and many remote controls.
The black 3-D texture however is very hard to see it seems, right from the start.
I have a 30+ year old calculator with inked buttons. The ink is still there.. all of it. Same was the case for my former 8 year old pc keyboard, and many remote controls.
The black 3-D texture however is very hard to see it seems, right from the start.
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KeepingItLight
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White ink.
Phlogiston
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Speaking as someone who is legally blind, but still has some residual eyesight, I prefer the white ink for maximum contrast.
You can certainly advocate textured buttons for blind people, but I would point out that tactile recognition is easier with raised textures, not recessed ones, because your skin will pick up raised shapes more easily, especially when the shapes are small.
For relatively few buttons arranged in a row like this, blind people with no residual eyesight would usually count buttons from one end.
Of course, the ideal arrangement would be raised textures painted with white ink, but SkyRC have already pointed out the difficulty of reliably mass-producing that sort of combination.
You can certainly advocate textured buttons for blind people, but I would point out that tactile recognition is easier with raised textures, not recessed ones, because your skin will pick up raised shapes more easily, especially when the shapes are small.
For relatively few buttons arranged in a row like this, blind people with no residual eyesight would usually count buttons from one end.
Of course, the ideal arrangement would be raised textures painted with white ink, but SkyRC have already pointed out the difficulty of reliably mass-producing that sort of combination.
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gf has nail polish in all colors maybe even GITD to fill in the recesses, no? :shrug:
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White ink or even silver would work.
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White ink.
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Thank you all for the vivid participation, the tally gives, recessed vs. white ink,
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So I checked the "white ink" on the buttons of my old NC2500 charger. With a q-tip and some aggressive solvent i managed to dissolve the white paint yikes. Showing this to them, the product manager responded that the MC3000 buttons don't use white ink/paint technique but some new laser-engraving technique and that it would be impossible to dissolve the white symbols chemically. Laser-engraved white symbols are said to be long-lasting, won't rub off, won't fly away
. In my review, I'm going to test the aggressive solvent on the MC3000 buttons, then we have re-confirmation by me.
Anyway you guys win, they're going ahead with the white symbols.
"Good news, everyone!" — Mass production has started!! Days ago actually. I saw proof, a sea of soldered PCB's
. Completion will still take days/weeks but the point is that production is happening right now. Fi. nal. ly.
3 : 12
So I checked the "white ink" on the buttons of my old NC2500 charger. With a q-tip and some aggressive solvent i managed to dissolve the white paint yikes. Showing this to them, the product manager responded that the MC3000 buttons don't use white ink/paint technique but some new laser-engraving technique and that it would be impossible to dissolve the white symbols chemically. Laser-engraved white symbols are said to be long-lasting, won't rub off, won't fly away
. In my review, I'm going to test the aggressive solvent on the MC3000 buttons, then we have re-confirmation by me.Anyway you guys win, they're going ahead with the white symbols.
"Good news, everyone!" — Mass production has started!! Days ago actually. I saw proof, a sea of soldered PCB's
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What he said - Finally!!
Julian Holtz
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laser engraving
Actually, the laser engraving technique is quite old, and state of the art in keyboard manufacture for a long time. Think of all the different layouts of the same keyboards for different countries and all. There are special plastic materials which change their color upon laser impact. Way more durable than ink, as it is the plastic itself changing color. Have a vid:
So what do you guys think, is a $30 price reduction reason enough to preorder the charger over waiting until the reviews are out?
Actually, the laser engraving technique is quite old, and state of the art in keyboard manufacture for a long time. Think of all the different layouts of the same keyboards for different countries and all. There are special plastic materials which change their color upon laser impact. Way more durable than ink, as it is the plastic itself changing color. Have a vid:
So what do you guys think, is a $30 price reduction reason enough to preorder the charger over waiting until the reviews are out?
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gyzmo2002
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Not for now. This charger has an application (mc3000) that has not been fixed for iPhone and probably for android too. It doesn't open. When you release something, everything should be working.
I will wait the review and hope that the appli will be fixed.
Edit: I have just found another appli for SkyRc charger (charger link). This one seems working. Wich one will be use?
I will wait the review and hope that the appli will be fixed.
Edit: I have just found another appli for SkyRc charger (charger link). This one seems working. Wich one will be use?
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kreisl
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Re: laser engraving
Those who are not willing to pay full price even if it got good reviews could consider the buy now ('Now or Never'). It's safe to assume that shoppers will be hard pressed to find a similar price after the promotional period, unless they go over ebay Make An Offer or ask an obliging dealer for a personal discount via friendly email, a practice which has become very common in the past 1-2 years in our scene.
The current GB/HKE price is as low as it will ever get
Programmers are working on improved app versions day in day out. I am more interested in PC Link software and manual operation. Much fun and satisfaction either way! :thumbsup:
Those who are really willing to pay full price solely under the condition that it got good reviews should wait then. Full price is a lotta money. I will be curious about what reviewers can find out which SKY was not aware of already. If there are noteworthy quirks or bugs which i can reproduce and agree with, then i'll submit for firmware refinement.
Those who are not willing to pay full price even if it got good reviews could consider the buy now ('Now or Never'). It's safe to assume that shoppers will be hard pressed to find a similar price after the promotional period, unless they go over ebay Make An Offer or ask an obliging dealer for a personal discount via friendly email, a practice which has become very common in the past 1-2 years in our scene.
The current GB/HKE price is as low as it will ever get
Programmers are working on improved app versions day in day out. I am more interested in PC Link software and manual operation. Much fun and satisfaction either way! :thumbsup:
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