I have a question about the Refresh Mode on the MC3000 - how is this defined?
On the BT-C3100, for example, I'm confused about the meaning of Test Mode and Refresh Mode and both are different from my BC700 Refresh Mode.
Using mostly the WWW for gathering the following unconfirmed info, please correct me if some details are wlong:
BT-C3100 so-called "REFRESH MODE":
discharge - no rest - full charge - no rest - full discharge - no rest - full charge - no rest - full discharge - no rest - final full charge,
or short:
D > nR >
C > nR >
D > nR >
C > nR >
D > nR >
C, that is
3 cycles.
BT-C3100 so-called "TEST MODE":
charge - no rest - full discharge - no rest - final full charge,
or short:
C > nR >
D > nR >
C
BC700 so-called "REFRESH MODE":
discharge - no rest - full charge - no rest - full discharge - no rest - full charge - … - full discharge - no rest - final full charge,
or short:
D > nR >
C > nR >
D > nR >
C > … >
D > nR >
C, up to
20 cycles.
BC700 so-called "TEST MODE":
charge - no rest - full discharge - no rest - final full charge,
or short:
C > nR >
D > nR >
C.
NC1000 so-called "REFRESH MODE":
discharge - no rest - full charge - no rest - full discharge - no rest - full charge - … - full discharge - no rest - final full charge,
or short:
D > nR >
C > nR >
D > nR >
C > … >
D > nR >
C, up to
unlimited cycles.
NC1000 so-called "TEST MODE":
charge - no rest - final full discharge,
or short:
C > nR >
D.
NC2500 so-called "REFRESH MODE":
charge - 1hr rest - full discharge - 1hr rest - final full charge,
or short:
C > 1hr >
D > 1hr >
C.
C9000 so-called "REFRESH & ANALYZE MODE":
charge - 2hr "rest" - full discharge - 1hr rest - final full charge,
or short:
C > 2hr >
D > 1hr >
C.
Charge Manager so-called "CHECK MODE":
discharge - no rest - full charge,
or short:
D > nR >
C.
Charge Manager so-called "CYCLE MODE":
charge - no rest - full discharge - no rest - final full charge,
or short:
C > nR >
D > nR >
C.
Charge Manager so-called "ALIVE MODE":
charge - no rest - full discharge - no rest - full charge - no rest - full discharge - no rest - final full charge,
or short:
C > nR >
D > nR >
C> nR >
D > nR >
C.
Akkumaster C5 distinguishes between
service pause and
cycle pause, which i find interesting. The so-called "DISCHARGE-CHARGE MODE":
discharge -
service pause - final full charge,
or short:
D > R >
C.
Accumaster C5 so-called "CHARGE-DISCHARGE-CHARGE MODE":
charge -
service pause - full discharge -
service pause - final full charge,
or short:
C > R >
D > R >
C.
Accumaster C5 so-called "FORMING MODE":
discharge - no rest(?) - full charge - no rest - full discharge - no rest - full charge - … - full discharge - no rest - final full charge,
or short:
D > nR(?) >
C > nR >
D > nR >
C > … >
D > nR >
C, up to
20 cycles.
ALC 8500-2 Expert (
discontinued?) so-called "DISCHARGE/CHARGE MODE":
discharge - no rest - final full charge,
or short:
D > nR >
C.
ALC 8500-2 Expert so-called "TEST MODE":
charge -
delay - full discharge -
delay - final full charge,
or short:
C > R >
D > R >
C.
ALC 8500-2 Expert so-called "REFRESH MODE":
discharge
- delay - full charge
- delay - full discharge
- delay - full charge
- delay - full discharge
- delay - final full charge,
or short:
D > R >
C > R >
D > R >
C > R >
D > R >
C, that is
3 cycles.
ALC 8500-2 Expert so-called "FORMING MODE":
charge
- delay - full discharge
- delay - full charge
- … - full discharge
- delay - final full charge,
or short:
C > R >
D > R >
C > … >
D > R >
C, up to
N cycles.
ALC 8500-2 Expert so-called "CYCLE MODE":
charge
- delay - full discharge
- delay - full charge
- … - full discharge
- delay - final full charge,
or short:
C > R >
D > R >
C > … >
D > R >
C, up to
unlimited cycles.
Every maker of charger-analyzers (BC700, NC1000, NC2500, C3100, C9000, a.o.) seems to have his own notion of what a REFRESH
and or a TEST MODE should do, and these similar modes share that they are nothing but special cases of a
CYCLE program, would you agree? With the MC3000 the definition of its so-called "
REFRESH" mode
for both NiMH and LiIon chemistries becomes clear when you're in SPV (Slot Programming View) and look at the parameters
CYCLE MODE,
NO.OF CYCLES and
REST TIME. This way one does not need to look into the operator's manual to learn what
REFRESH on the MC3000 means:
C>D>C pattern (fixed), with
1 cycle (fixed), and rest time as you wish from
{0|1|2|…|239|240}min. And if you wanted to emulate BT-C3100's TEST MODE, you would run MC3000's
CYCLE MODE (instead of
REFRESH MODE), pick the pattern
C>D from the array of cycling options, set
NO.OF CYCLES to
1, and
REST TIME to
0min.
It is interesting that the Maha employs a 2hr "rest" after CHARGE. That's because it
continues to charge the battery with a top-off current. Even such Maha-behavior could be emulated with MC3000's parameters and options by adjusting the SPV parameters
TARGET VOLT and
TRICKLE CHARGE. Well, except for the different rest times.
But wait. If you really wtf needed different rest times between charging↔discharging routines, then you could set 2 different
CYCLE programs (
PROGRAM[01],
PROGRAM[02]) and run them in immediate sequence:
C > 2hr >
D > 1hr >
C
=
CYCLE pattern
C>
D (w/ 2hr rest and
TRICKLE in between)
+ CYCLE pattern
D>
C (w/ 1hr rest in between).
Q. How does one run several PUP's in immediate sequence or even loop them?
A. What's a PUP?
Q. A PUP is krisel's short for predefined user programs PROGRAM[01], PROGRAM[02], etc. So how?
A. Either manually, or possibly also through a more sophisticated version of the PC Link software in future.
Q. I see. Thanks you.
A. That was not a question, try again, duh.