Solar Cell Batt Charger

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Ok , so here is my idea ...

Combine a DSD charger dx/sku.936

With something like this from Ebay
And hopefully you will have a solar charger capable of charging 18650 and RCR123A batts , ok anything but a RCR123A is going to take a while , but it should work ? :tinfoil:

What if one used 2 solar chargers ?

Anyhow , I figures/calculate that one day to charge the int batt then the next day to charge up a CR123A , so theoretically , and ASSuming that the specs for the solar charger are not baloney , one could charge a RCR123A per day , if the sun is shinning of course .

Any and all input welcome !
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The solar charger you linked to on eBay has a built in 1350mAh battery and the specs say that it takes 10-15 hrs for the little 80mA solar panel to charge it up. An AW RCR123A cell is rated at 750mAh so even if the RCR123A cell was hooked up directly to the solar panel it would still likely take more than a 5 hours to charge the 750mAh cell.

The DX charger wants 450mA of power for it to charge a CR123A in 1-2 hrs. The Solar panel on the little charger outputs less than 1/5 of that needed power so you would have to charge up the 1350mAh battery completely in the solar charger, plug it into the DX charger and use the power stored in the built in battery to charge the RCR123A cell which may have enough power to charge one 123A cell before the internal battery runs dry. However, you would then have to put the little solar charger in the sun for 10-15 hrs (2-3 sun days) to charge it up again before you could use it to charge another RCR123A cell.

Your best bet would be to find a 5.5v-6v solar panel that outputs over 450mA and plug the DX charger directly into that solar panel.

Another option would be to purchase an ~5 watt 12 volt solar panel and plug that into a car to USB adapter (DX sku.688) which the DX charger would work with (the DX charger wants 5.5v @450mA which is at the top end of the USB power requirements) then you would need to find the right plugs to hook the charger to the USB adapter, but I'm sure DX has them for cheap.
 
The ebay item is a 1350mAh battery with a 80mA solar panel to charge it. Using a battery to charge another battery is not, IMO, the best option.

The solar panel alone only provider 80mA which I think is not enough to charge 18650 batteries. For 16340 batteries could work but is not the best option.

You should try to get a better solar panel. You could better consider#sp8-500-16 solar panel (the last one in the first goup in the page) from plastecs which is 8 volts open circuit and 500mA short circuit. With that panel you could charge a 18650 in two days with 6 hour of full sun per day.

I bought from plastecs when the current owner's father was in charge some years ago.
 
i have a lot of these TYPE of chargers, and they are cheap and fun, and interesting, but besides what was listed above, they are pure death to the internal li-ion/poly cell inside them WHEN you get ENOUGH full sun to charge them.
the black solar cells absorb heat like a solar oven (that happens with solar cells anyways, they get really hot), and that heat translates into the li-ion cell internally in the device.

like stated above, these items are (sorta more like) portable power units for pda and phone charging/running , wherin if you USE it as a solar item continually, the internal battery does not fare well.
so ya (sorta) end up charging them with the USB , then using them as the portable power they are, and in some dire emergency you might squeak out an hour of talk time, after torturing the unit in the sun for days. which could be extreemly usefull if say your grid went down, and magically no one elses did :)

anyways, take them with a grain of salt, they are still usable items for the price , but its really a portable power pack with a battery, and some minor solar for emergency.
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some of the models of this style will REQUIRE a usb connect when the battery drops to low in voltage, the curcuit is to complex for me to understand, but it has a "logic" flaw that keeps the solar from retriggering the "protection" when low.

i am NOT trying to say anything bad about them, after all i was dumb enough to own MANY of them :cool: , it just should be noted all the problems it can have.
i have redesigned a few to Shade the li-ion, instead of pulverise it, and it still has flukey issues like the above one.
they DO work, they are neeto as heck, many of them do use premium solar cells being the glass monocrystaline, they just have inherant design flaws that should be tended to.

generally as far as charging goes, you CAN get One phone 3/4 charged (about) after 2 days of full sun, and the curcuit used is not efficent as observed by the heat output by the curcuit during boost from the 3.6v to the ~5.0-5.5v outputs that are usually below about 500ma (running off the BATTERY inside). i got some that claimed a 500ma output they barely squeak out a 300ma, and some said 800ma and barely squeak out 500ma from the BATTERY.
the solar cells i tested, the small ones (about the size of a large cell phone) run about ~80ma in full sun, and the wider bigger one, that is about 3x5 really does have a 120ma output. did i say FULL sun :) passive light landing on the cell might light up the charge light, but the quantity of charge is almost nullified by the leds own needs :) so although some might CLAIM they will charge in your bright office, they dont tell of the month required to get a full charge.

on a side note, why are they making more and more BLACK electronics, with little processor heaters in them, with the battery as (almost) a heat sinc for the processor, they got no respect :)
 
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