Solarforce L2 / L2P forward clicky.

[Wiggle]

Ordered L2-S6. This'll go great with my L2P /w Masterpiece Pro-1 head, one mode spotters are awesome with forward switches Now I just hope they release an 18650 extension in HAIII so I can get rid of the non-matching one I have now.

 

[mandrake]

I don't have any problem with the stock boot, nor do I have a problem trimming the post. If I can remove the guts from the S6 switches that I have on order and put them into my L2P hosts, I am a happy guy. I had not read the fact that this would work before just now.
I will report back here once I have my new switches in hand and can give it a try.

I like the 16 MM boot better myself, too bad they are so rare...

Of course my original problem was trying to get something to work with the McClicky plus brass in the L2P...

Phil

Phil,

I really don't see the over all problem with the stock boot... Just cut the center nipple/button if the mod requires it! Or is there a reluctance to do that, just to be able to roll-back the procedure?

Well, any how, the switch from the S6 transfers to the stock L2P tail-cap with no problem, and without cutting the 16mm boot - personally I think it works better with this, than with the 14mm one (it's not so stiff anymore).

 

[LV426]

I will report back here once I have my new switches in hand and can give it a try.

Sorry... But wasn't that what I just wrote, that it works? :thinking:

 

[mandrake]

No reason to be sorry!
And no reason to get your feelings hurt!
We have already seen that there is some variability in the switch housing on L2P hosts. Not only that Lots of good folks at CPF have been able to get things to work that I can't.

When I get the guts transferred and working on my light, I will be happy and we can broaden the database for others to refer to when I report back here.

Sound good to you?

Phil

Sorry... But wasn't that what I just wrote, that it works? :thinking:

 

[fishx65]

Just picked up a Solarforce Skyline1. It's got a very cool tailcap that changes the level by keeping it pressed (infinitely variable). It functions with my 6P and L2 if I hold it on the bodies but the threads won't fit. Would be awesome to make my single mode R2's infinitely variable. Are these tailcaps available for the Surefire 6P and Solarforce L2? If not, possible to mod the L2 tailcap?

Has anyone even seen a tailcap that functions like this? It works like a regular clicky but if you hold it down it lowers or increases the level.

 

[LV426]

No reason to be sorry!
And no reason to get your feelings hurt!
We have already seen that there is some variability in the switch housing on L2P hosts. Not only that Lots of good folks at CPF have been able to get things to work that I can't.

When I get the guts transferred and working on my light, I will be happy and we can broaden the database for others to refer to when I report back here.

Sound good to you?

Phil

No feelings hurt here, Phil! 🙂

Since I'm Swedish, and working in Denmark having to express myself i English (and often get linguistically confused), I just had to check that it's not just me and "the Greekish guy" that understand each-other (Europeans alike)! 😉

Reg. the swapping of switches, just remove all from the stock L2P tailcap (- the boot) and replace with the "stuff" from the S6. Good luck!

 

[kosPap]

guys would you do me a favor to post a photo of the S6 insides (all parts spread out?)
(boy this sounds like a phrase taken from a horor movie)

BTW who is the "the Greekish guy" ?

 

[mandrake]

If you would care to let me know who that source is, perhaps I could contact them and ask them if they would let me know when they get stock again. Or maybe I can just watch their web page.

Thanks,
Phil

regarding the tailcap I was about to PM you a link of a source of black ones but they are sold out.

 

[LV426]

All the "insides" of the S6

 

[mandrake]

I looks like they are taking up that extra shoulder length with that thick white washer. I am curious, do you have a stock L2P switch boot to compare to? Is the post in the S6 boot noticeably longer?

I hope to have a couple of S6 switches in hand to look at, depending on the postal system, pretty soon. I just would like to know.

Phil

All the "insides" of the S6

 

[ElectronGuru]

Time for an update...

We've decided not to take more time right now to develop a complete solution package for Solarforce tailcaps.
What we can offer is a kit for the Ultrafire C1 tailstanding cap, alone and/or preinstalled in new C1's.

Would either of these options be of interest?

Thanks,
Dan

 

[gunfighter]

Time for an update...

We've decided not to take more time right now to develop a complete solution package for Solarforce tailcaps.
What we can offer is a kit for the Ultrafire C1 tailstanding cap, alone and/or preinstalled in new C1's.

Would either of these options be of interest?

Thanks,
Dan

I'll ask the dumb question; will a modified Ultrafire C1 tailcap fit on a Solarforce body and essential solve this forward-clicking problem? Or are you suggesting we'd need to buy Ultrafire bodies instead to get what we want?

My specific interested is in getting a forward clicky on my 1xCR123 Solarforce L2M, so I still might be out of luck as I don't think Ultrafire makes a P60-sized light running a 1xCR123

 

[LV426]

I looks like they are taking up that extra shoulder length with that thick white washer. I am curious, do you have a stock L2P switch boot to compare to? Is the post in the S6 boot noticeably longer?

Swapping the innards, and using the stock 16mm boot, the post is uncut but it is trimmed down (from the factory) on the boot of the S6 - so it's shorter on the 14mm boot.

 

[mandrake]

Dan,

Sorry if I am a bit slow. Now I get the part about you folks not pursuing a Solarforce switch solution. What I am not sure of is what the Ultrafire switch kit gets me, unless I have an Ultrafire C1. Now is the idea that I could buy the whole tailcap with McClicky installed and just screw it on to my L2P as a forward clicky solution? Ok I get that too if that is what you are saying. But what would the Ultrfire kit by itself do for me, unless it would fit into the current L2P tailcap assembly. Is that the thought here? Does the C1 use a 16mm boot and is it included in the kit you are offering?

I bought a McClicky plus brass from you recently, and as I and others found out, it will thread right into the L2P. The only problem is finding a proper boot, or at least a boot with the proper dimensions and *COLOR*.
How would the C1 kit be any different than what I purchased from you? What would it include besides the McClicky and brass ring adapter?

Just out of curiousity, keeping in mind that the current McClicky plus brass for the Surefire fits in the L2P, could you let us know what else was invloved in developing a complete solution for the L2P? I am thinking it has to be more involved than simply sourcing a proper boot. What am I missing?

Thanks in advance for any info that you can share.
As I indicated, I was just a bit confused by your note. There was much left unsaid, or so it seemed to me.

Phil

Time for an update...

We've decided not to take more time right now to develop a complete solution package for Solarforce tailcaps.
What we can offer is a kit for the Ultrafire C1 tailstanding cap, alone and/or preinstalled in new C1's.

Would either of these options be of interest?

Thanks,
Dan

 

[LV426]

I bought a McClicky plus brass from you recently, and as I and others found out, it will thread right into the L2P. The only problem is finding a proper boot, or at least a boot with the proper dimensions and *COLOR*.

Phil,

I'll have to ask you once more: what is the problem with using the stock L2P boot with the McClicky-kit from Oveready?!

 

[mandrake]

I think I have already answered this in a previous post here, but what the heck, I will get my post count up ...
🙂

With either of the L2P tailcaps that I tried the stock switch boot did not have enough travel to make the switch work properly. This was not just a matter of adjusting how far the McClicky was threaded in by using washsers or O rings. Fully seated the switch was always on. Adding washers could get momentary on to work, but there was not enough travel to click the switch all of the way for constant on. Alek (thank you again sir) kindly sent me a 16 mm boot from Shiningbeam that is maybe a millimeter deeper (has more travel) and it works fine (but it is glow in the dark green).

BTW, trimming the post in the boot is not the answer. I have a 16 mm boot from a Raidfire Speer that is the same depth ast the stock L2P boot, but with NO post at all. I still could not get the McClicky to work with it, no matter how I adjusted how far it was threaded into the tailcap.

Phil

Phil,

I'll have to ask you once more: what is the problem with using the stock L2P boot with the McClicky-kit from Oveready?!

 

[LV426]

Thanks Phil, I've missed your previous post!

 

[ElectronGuru]

I'll start with a disclaimer: I'm not that familiar with SolarForce threading and what will work with what. My understanding is that UF C1 tailcaps work with Solarforce setups as is and are indeed already purchased by Solarforce users to gain tailstanding ability. I am not suggesting that anyone buy more than a tailcap.

The basic issue is that Ultrafire and Solarforce tailcaps are designed to work with relatively large switches (switches not built for the application they are used, that are then mounted to circuit boards, making them even taller). This design requirement means that these tailcaps have XL end-pockets. Combined with threading that stops 3/4ths the way down, the relatively thin McClicky kit leaves a gap between the top of the switch and the bottom of the boot. A gap that must be filled for the switch to work. There are 2 basic approaches to accomplish this. One is to push the boot itself down. The other is the bridge the distance while still compressing the boot against the top, with the use of washers. Fill to little and the boot flops around, fill to much and you get permanent momentary.

My hope with the time we had was to design a new brass ring, one optimized for the shallow threads + deep cap found in these tailcaps. But our few hands are now very busy with larger projects and this engineered solution has become impractical for now.

I'm considering the C1 option as a way to fill the void, as it were. I can buy 100 of these at a time, preinstall the current McClicky kit, and sell them as ready to install onto Solarforce and Ultrafire bodies. Its not an ideal solution, as the finishes won't match, but it will at least give the functionality, with minimal extra cost or wait.

My question was and is, is this something folks would like?

 

[kosPap]

guys I am loosing contact with this thread...so many thinks mentioned here adn I am kind woozy (not easy losing afriend by cancer every 10 days)

I wil give a collective answer and nott qoute anyone...

DAN be very quatious with the UF C1 tailcaps..there are 2 version with similar threads....2 out of 3 I had to force screw on my C2 body...

The ones found in the tape switches seem to be Ok and are lock-out too...you can dig up a members FWD swicth service on the C1 (marketplace)

Regarding the Mcclicky kit...it seems that making a loner brass adapter must be the solution....anotehr one is to get the L2 tailcap case seen here http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/820/keepu.jpg

And trim it to length the mcclicky demands....Because this case/spacer has a rim where the switch button AND the bootie post come into. So they are practically always in contact. My guess i guess.....

Mandrake PM me your postal address

PS I am sorry but I feel very well by Solarcorce copying me!

 

[mandrake]

I have a bunch of Solatforce and a couple of other Chineses hosts that would benefit from a good forward clicky. Depending upon what the final pricing would be, I would likely check out at least one or two. Worst case I will have the McClicky switch to use somewhere.

Would you think that you would still look at doing something specific for the Solarforce lights in the future?

Phil

I'm considering the C1 option as a way to fill the void, as it were. I can buy 100 of these at a time, preinstall the current McClicky kit, and sell them as ready to install onto Solarforce and Ultrafire bodies. Its not an ideal solution, as the finishes won't match, but it will at least give the functionality, with minimal extra cost or wait.

My question was and is, is this something folks would like?