Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

csshih said:
ouch! I've ruined a few reflectors just because there was a slight dust particle, smudge, etc. 🙁

I was very careful when opening the pro-I reflector, SMO is especially prone to damage.

now I've learned not to touch em at all costs!

try contacting the place you got it from?
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This may not have been a good idea but I new it could not have gotten any worse than it already is. A micro fiber cloth and glass cleaner made the reflector a lot better. It is still not good but for some reason the throw and brightness is the same as when the reflector was untouched. even though the performence is unchanged, mentaly I cant stand the messed up reflector. I Shot SBflashlights an Email, still waiting for a response.

One more thing. When the olight SR90 Intimidator ships will you get one to review. http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?p=2436131 Might burn a hole through your fence and trees with this one.😀

All 76 beamshots you did are the best I had ever seen. Very well done.😀
 
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Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

or rubberband.. i havent had any of the problems youve had...
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

Just got my Pro1 head and l2p last night. This has bested my Spear Clone. Anyone figure out how to open up the p60 for modding?
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

Hey Craig,

Not sure what your lux numbers were but these are what I get. Not too confident about setup just yet since I just got the lux meter, and not super confident on how to work it or set up, so take them with a grain of salt.

Relative Measurements @ 5 m Using Raw lux
Pro-1: 100%
DBS R5: 49.7% (of Pro-1)
RRT-2 OP: 25.3%
M20 SMO: 23.96%


Estimated lux @ 1 meter
Pro-1: 54,249
DBS R5: 27,000
RRT-2 OP: 13,749 (selfbuilt got 14,750 lux A 1m with a SMO reflector)
M20 SMO: 13,000 (for comparsion, selfbuilt got 11,400 lux @ 1m with an OP)

If someone else gets something different please let me know, and I'll give it a go again to see if I can replicate the numbers. However, just from the naked eye, the beam of the Pro-1 is just way more intense than the DBS.



Also note, that my Pro-1 has an UCL from flashlightlens.com (52.1 mm for a D mag). The DBS comes with an UCL as well as the RRT-2.



mike
 
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Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

Hey Mike,

one of reasons I have not been posting lightbox, lux, etc, readings is that my meter does not have a photopic curve response filter. This can affect the readings by quite a bit with colored lights, but I am unsure how much % "white" lights are effected. I could only find one meter that featured the filter (same one BigC is using in his integrating sphere) and I cannot afford it at this moment in time.


Thank you for posting your data 🙂
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

Hey Craig,

I'm using a Mastech 1330B. I know it has a filter, but it may not be the most super accurate.

From the spectral graph in the manual, the filter follows the photopic curve pretty closely although not exactly. Is this pretty standard for a lux meter, or do they usually have a filter that follows the curve exactly?


mike
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

hmm... do you happen to have any colored lights? you might be able to check to see if that meter actually has the filter with them.

the more exact -> the more expensive 😉 the mastech is more on the affordable side, I guess. but if it at least utilizes the filter, that's good!
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

Yes, well I have a blue 5 mm LED key chain light and an Inova UV light. How would I check?


Hahaha, I'm not too surprised the Mastech has a cheaper filter in it based on the price. Didn't think I could spend much more money on a lux meter; the purpose of this one was just to get rough estimates and compare each light for personal purposes.


What would be a better luxmeter?

I assumed that since my readings for the M20 and RRT-2 was similar to selfbuilt's, with the exception of my M20 reading being slightly higher due to having a SMO reflector and my RRT-2 reading being slightly lower due to having an OP reflector, that the Mastech would be roughly accurate. But I guess if the M20/RRT-2 is in the spectrum the meter is sensitive to, then the readings might make the meter seem accurate.
 
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hmm.... which one do you feel is brighter visually? the blue or the UV?

try doing some lux measurements at a close distance and see if the data matches.

The AEMC CA813 is what BigC is using in his integrating sphere. pricey.
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

Well the blue LED looks brighter, and according to the lux meter it shows up about 3x brighter. Not sure if that's what you meant.

Here is the response of the Mastech from the manual. The straight line is the photopic curve. Dotted line is the Mastech.
mastech1330bresponse.jpg


So it looks like the Mastech might pick up more blue, yellow, orange, and red than the human eye. Green is about the same.

I guess it will slightly exaggerate readings with lights in the b/y/o/r. Lights with more green will be perceived by it to have less output.
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

Sounds good. The uv would probably have been roughly the same without the filter. That's a pretty nice meter for the buck.
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

I received mine today and whoa! This is my best LED thrower to date, I wonder how much better it will get when the XPE R3 comes out driven with a 1 mode 1.4A driver :devil:
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

Maybe this can replace my MRV.

So basically you cannot swap out drop ins?
I was hoping that it would allow for drop ins so you have a thrower no matter and just upgrade the dropins...
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

Well, had a death in the family. That wasn't the issue though, family pettiness has really gotten to me. So, I ordered my Solorforce Pro-1 with L2P. That should pick me up 😀. Thanks to all who answered my earlier questions. Sounds like this thing is a real winner.
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

Yikes Kevin. Healing thoughts inbound. Hope the Mpro does pick you up.. if not, I believe some TI lights should be on order 😉

eyeeatingfish-- the "dropins" are swappable.-- but only with the solarforce proprietary stuff. at the moment, there is no other available dropin, though
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

eyeeatingfish said:
So basically you cannot swap out drop ins?
I was hoping that it would allow for drop ins so you have a thrower no matter and just upgrade the dropins...
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I believe the whole point of this light is that in the future, Solarforce will produce drop-ins so that the light is upgradeable. There is an SST-50 drop-in for it currently in the works.

Or you could upgrade the drop-in yourself

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Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

I received my Pro-1 head today. Amazingly bright little hotspot.

Yeah, emitter swap is easy. Removing the pressed brass ring without visual damage could be another story.
 
Re: Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-I "C" Turbohead Review: Pictures, Beamshots, and more!

Hello,

could someone please compare Masterpiece Pro-I's beam to say M6 (MN20, MN21) or M4,...? I mean the comparison especially in terms of throw and hotspot.

Thank you.

Filip
 
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