Some surefire questions, Al you around :)

[Rifter]

Hey my current setup is a M2+A19+KT2 with the N2 lamp. If i added another A19 and made a 4 cell light what lamps would i be able to run if any and in which heads? standard M2 or KT2? is that even possible? Thanks guys.

 

[jtivat]

The KT2 could then take the fallowing
MN60 at 225 lumens (60min runtime)
MN61 at 350 lumens (20min runtime)
N62 at 500 lumens (12min runtime)

There is no lamp rated at 12volts for the standard bezel.

 

[Rifter]

Are you trying to tell me i could run the 500 lumen lamp? correct me if im wrong but would the drain on the 123's with that lamp/load and low run time not get them hot enough to blow them to pieces?

 

[Bushman]

Rifter it will not blow them to pieces but it will get them hot enough to induce thermal shutdown. once the batteries cool off then they will be good for a nother few minutes with the N62

 

[jtivat]

That is correct with Panasonics I get about 2 1/2 minutes before shut down then once they cool they work just fine. Some have said that the SF 123's go about 3 minutes.

 

[Rifter]

hmmm, i do not need that much light and like a one hour runtime, how does the MN60 compare to the N2? i have tried with my current setup the MN16 and it just does not have anywhere close to as tight and perfect beam of the N2. The MN16 just sucks IMO, the N2 throws just as far and has 3 times the runtime, with a better beam. So how does the MN60 hold up?

 

[jtivat]

The MN60 is my favorite. It throws a little farther than the N2 and puts out about twice as large a beam. It is very comparable to the M6 with the MN20 IMO.

 

[Rifter]

thanks guys, i may just have to grab some more A19's.

 

[Bushman]

Dan at www.tacticalwarehouse.com can fix you up in short order with the A19's He would have to order them as he did mine, but he is great to deal with and is a long time board member on the old surefire board.

 

[Size15's]

Rifter, I was off earning for an A2 & L1...
Sorry(!)

I've not got anything significant to add at this stage.

Respectfully,

Al

 

[Rifter]

Al, i would like you opinion, which lamp is better, the N2 or the MN60? and does anyone know how many degree's the beam is on the N2/MN60?

Edited to add: What is the differnce between the MN series and the N series? all i know is the N2 produce a tighter beam than the MN16, im just worried the MN60 will be just as big of a dissapointment as the MN16 was.

 

[Size15's]

MN have a different (longer) negative spring contact that is designed for the Millennium setup. N lamps do with in the Millennium setups but SureFire don't always official suggest the Classic N lamps for Millennium Systems (especially WeaponLights)

Which lamp do I think it better?

The N2 beam looks better (very round beam)
The MN60 puts out more light in a larger beam - beam is subrounded usually though. Not a big deal compared to the MN11 or MN15 for example.

Of course, the N2 in an M3T over an MN60 in the M4 - I would take the M3T for compactness and easier to use (CombatGrip, no so bezel-end heavy)

The N2 in the 9PT compared to the MN60 in the 12PMT - If I'm using a 3" TurboHead, I may as well get the most light out from it as possible give the option of those two lamps; so I'd go for the 12PMT.

I love the MN16 beams. I have three SureFires with them in right now (two M3T's and a 9P+KT). The MN15 was whiter compared to the N2 but the MN15 beam shape was not how I like it.

I use the MN61 in my M4, M4Z and 12PMT. I find the MN61 gives me the best output/beamquality/runtime 'ratio' of the three, four-cell Lamp Assemblies.

The N2 lamp is pretty robust. I find when field-testing that straight filaments remain focused and last longer then curved filaments. This is a general observation based on the bulbs I have and the bulbs I've ruined.

I'm finding it difficult to pick between the N2 and MN60 because they are for different models. However, I do like the N2 beam from practically all TurboHeads I've ever tried it with (this is to do with the N2's filament I'm sure)

Al

 

[brightnorm]

Originally posted by Rifter:
Hey my current setup is a M2+A19+KT2 with the N2 lamp. If i added another A19 and made a 4 cell light what lamps would i be able to run if any and in which heads? standard M2 or KT2? is that even possible? Thanks guys.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Rifter,

If you have an opportunity to try out the unit described below I believe that you will be pleasantly surprised.

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Brightnorm

 

[Rifter]

I have seen and read all the posts about it, i could not however justify the cost over the KT2, the KT2 does all i need it to.