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Lots of 'em...doing all the specification, design, development, eng, marketing, and support, and doing the Mfg. Eng. for those lines...and, as you say, overseeing the offshore lines carefully. [EDIT: Probably overseen as carefully as the ones AAPL uses to manufacture the phones used by a high % of the people reading this (although not me personally).] 'Course, this photo is just the head office.

Only thing I see that really stinks is 140lm low setting. Idk what they're thinking, hope that is a typo and 40lm is correct output.

It's probably not a typo. Remember, SL is known to do their product specification, development, and 'Beta' trialing making heavy use of LE and other professional segment focus groups, and those levels are probably exactly what they were requested to deliver...which of course doesn't guarantee they got it right:)
 
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After stepdown she runs a nice flat curve. Only thing I see that really stinks is 140lm low setting.

Byk, are u joshing about PRC as origin, lol
I kinda like the 140 lumen low idea. Likely a nice throwey spot without all of the spill.

Not kidding about avoiding it though. Nope, not gonna do it.

I surmize it'll be like the Stinger LED where it starts on high and you hold the button down to change settings and two clicks to get the strobe to work since it doen't mention ten tap.
 

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I like that its 3000K. That's uncommon. Is there any other American flashlight company that sells a light with anything but cool white?
 

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I like that its 3000K. That's uncommon. Is there any other American flashlight company that sells a light with anything but cool white?
Depends on how one defines 'cool'. My Elzetta Alpha Gen 3 is 4500K on the money, and I don't consider that 'cool'. Not much cooler than some of the gas-filled incan bulbs. Compared to a candle or vacuum incan bulb, I guess 4500 is very cool though. I'd bet 3000K is a real outlier for a U.S. manufacturer with more employees than I can count on one hand. That said, I bet people who love their Stingers and want the advantages of one that LED tech brings, but that looks more like their old incan Stinger will love this new one. They may get good ROI on their fairly minimal effort on this one, 'cause there are apparently a lot of Stinger fans out there. I've never had one other than the 2020 (which doesn't really count), but I do get why people dig them.
 

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& some other fancy-schmancy ones.

Depends on how one defines 'cool'. My Elzetta Alpha Gen 3 is 4500K on the money, and I don't consider that 'cool'.

I was thinking more along the lines of Surefire, Maglite, Coast, etc., as opposed to companies like Zebralight, Peak, etc. I guess I should have specified more than 50 employees.
 

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I was thinking more along the lines of Surefire, Maglite, Coast, etc., as opposed to companies like Zebralight, Peak, etc. I guess I should have specified more than 50 employees.

Of the established U.S. companies of any size, I know Maglite has at least dipped their toe into the water of warmer CT &/or higher CRI, but I'm not very familiar with their line. I don't think they've done it with a model that fits my needs. Mr. Bykfixer could answer that one.

Otherwise yeah, this new Stinger model is probably an outlier, and that's exactly why it's noteworthy. Time will tell whether it sells or flops. If it sells, we may see that spectrum perhaps make its way into a ProTac or similar in the future. It's on SL's radar, as I think they've also already gone that direction with a 'work light' or two(?), but I think this is the first conventional handheld 'tube' light for market segments like those targeted by the Stingers, ProTacs, Strions, etc. I don't think others like SF, ASP, etc. have gone in that direction (yet). Warmer CTs and higher CRIs don't seem to be a priority to the major suppliers of lights with features targeting LE, TAC, MIL, Security, industrial, or other 'professional' market segments. This will probably change, especially where CRI is concerned.
 
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Aren't high CRI lights used by EMTs? I remember something from years ago about they'd continue to use incans because LEDs didn't show colors on the body accurately.
 

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Of the established U.S. companies of any size, I know Maglite has at least dipped their toe into the water of warmer CT &/or higher CRI, but I'm not very familiar with their line. I don't think they've done it with a model that fits my needs. Mr. Bykfixer could answer that one.

Otherwise yeah, this new Stinger model is probably an outlier, and that's exactly why it's noteworthy. Time will tell whether it sells or flops. If it sells, we may see that spectrum perhaps make its way into a ProTac or similar in the future. It's on SL's radar, as I think they've also already gone that direction with a 'work light' or two(?), but I think this is the first conventional handheld 'tube' light for market segments like those targeted by the Stingers, ProTacs, Strions, etc. I don't think others like SF, ASP, etc. have gone in that direction (yet). Warmer CTs and higher CRIs don't seem to be a priority to the major suppliers of lights with features targeting LE, TAC, MIL, Security, industrial, or other 'professional' market segments. This will probably change, especially where CRI is concerned.
Maglite put out a "spectrum" series a few years back (018-ish?) a blue, a green, a red and a warm white were made in solitaire, aaa minimag, aa minimag and XL50.
Aimed at hunters, CSI types, photographers, astronomers and others they were a fairly limited distributed niche flashlight that sold about as well as pocket warmers in the Sahara desert.
The warm solitaire is 36+/- lumens, the minimags in the 50's lumen output and iirc XL50 at 200 lumens.
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Left is incan. Right is spectrum warm.

From what I can tell they were a limited run so once they're gone that's it.

Some big Maglite fans have been asking Tony to include a spectrum warm version of ML series lights for a couple of years now. Maybe this "color rite" effort by Streamlight might cause him to re-think the idea. From what I understand Tony still runs Maglite day to day operations.
 
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Some incan Strion love
Left the 'improved grip' version with a (iirc) 150 lumen TeraLUX upgrade. It's definitely brighter.

Right is the original version. I think the 60 lumen number is probably acurate a full charge. It can focus like a minimag.

These were great in their day.
 
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