Stanley H.I.D. and 1365 lumen spotlights (Part 1)

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Besides getting more light, I do like the extra spill you got from the 4300k. But was it's ability to throw altered any with the swap?
 
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Mr Ted Bear, excellent work as always.

I made an animated gif from your first two shots comparing the L35 to the stock Stanley with the 8000K bulb.

I really don't need any more lights, (major understatement) yet I feel compelled to check my local Walmart for the Stanley.

If the flashaholics don't snap them all up, they might be marked down after sitting in the store for a few months.

I wonder if I could shoehorn in my 100W ballast and some LiPos?


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West Coast ------> Middle of the Country and on... Aint fair I tell ya!



My Walmart will get new stuff two years from now (and it's a Super WalMart) Well, atleast I have a little hope and can check my city across the river for one...



4300k bulb, hmm sounding better and better 😉 Should be more lumens going out the front than the 8000K for sure... Crush that return wire cover !!!


Waiting for the sun to go down :tinfoil:


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NO JOY in Santa Maria Walmart! Was hoping to pick up some more.


Mr Lips said...."That looks like a H3 bulb which should be easily changed to 4300K 😕"

Well I just happen to have two of Lips H3 Mule, 80 Watt rated, 4300K bulbs in-stock for testing in some of his other goodies. How could I resist?? THANK YOU, LIPS!!

Lips bulb on the right, Stanley 8000K in the middle, Costco bulb on left.

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I don't know if all H3's are shorter than other HID bulbs but you'll have a very difficult, if not impossible time trying to use (focus) one of the longer bulbs like the Costco bulb pictured. The glass envelope on Lips bulb measures 1 3/16" to the return wire exit and the center of the bulb chamber is precisely 11/16" in front of the metal flange.


It's fairly simple to change the bulb. I ended up shimming Lips bulb out about .075". I think the stock bulb could have used the same treatment. Originally, it had no hot spot to speak of when viewed from about 20 feet. (At 2 feet, it looks very defined and bright.) I used a 3/8" flat washer, drilled to 5/8" and then notched for the return wire. In hind-site, I'd just drill it to 11/16" and be done with it. I also had to grind off maybe .030" of the circumference of the washer. The original spring retainer works fine with some coaxing. Cut out their funky silicone filled, plastic tube bulb connectors and just use some butt connectors, covered with shrink tube for extra dielectric protection to connect your bulb. That's it. There's one hidden screw under the front black rubber bezel so pry the bezel off and remove the screw before you try to separate the halves.

EDIT: Leave it to me to find something negative in one of its positive features, the Turbo Boost instant start system. I would believe what Mr TB said the factory said..... that it's being hit with 60 Watts when the trigger is pulled. When the system cycles off after a few seconds, it's disappointing the amount of light that goes away!

The light is a bit heavy. A small Lipo would do wonders. Maybe remove the two tail-stand bars to pic up another ounce or two. But overall, it really is a terrific package for $78 incl tax.

Rala, I didn't do any longer range shots to nail down throw. But certainly the throw was increased due to the focusing I did. My guess is, they could all benefit by some focusing tweaks.

Another thought. Lips bulb is rated for 80 Watts. The light is probably hit with 60 Watts for 5 or so seconds. I wonder if a standard 35 Watt H3 will survive long-term? Maybe better to go for the so-called 55 Watt bulbs or one of Lips bulbs.
 
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Thanks had no idea that Google Maps even had that feature.....


Now as far as crushing the electrode cover....any tips???

Be careful! Gently squeeze with some needle nose a little bit at a time. It seems like a ceramic'ish material and crumbles easily. Be sure to clean the bulb with some Q-tips and alcohol to remove dirt and finger oil.
 
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So what's up with the Hi/Low Switch...I don't see a difference

And you won't see a difference with the naked eye. Only bu using a lux meter can it be confirmed that the hi/low switch works. The change is a good 20%; last night the difference was closer to 30% with near dead batteries. The change is very subtle, and occcurs over a 45-70 second time span. The human mind is constanly making adjustments, so the drop is not noticeable. You have to look real hard at the photo to see a difference
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My run time tests:

4300K bulb......................8000K bulb

Hi - 24:05..........................25:13

Low 31:12.........................31:02

About a 23% increase.
 
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While looking for H3 4300 bulbs, I found these. 5000K at $40.00 per pair with free shipping at "IntenseHID(DOT)com" They have no 4300K bulbs. Appreciate it if someone could link me to the best location to buy H3 4300 bulbs.


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Re: New Stanley H.I.D. and 1365 lumen spotlights

Has anyone in the Los Angeles area had any luck finding one? I should be home for leave from Iraq in a few days (should be home already actually, but that's a different story...) and I'd like to pick one up and carry/ship it back here. Ordering electronics from Amazon can be a huge PITA since they don't like shipping to APO so I want to try snagging one at Wally World!

Thanks!
 
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Has anyone in the Los Angeles area had any luck finding one?

I'm High Desert, just outside of LA. Mine was one of two hidden in the automotive section, near the RV supplies.

As a side note, right next to the Stanley lanterns was the multimeter section, and lo and behold, they had several Innova Equus 3320s right there on the shelf for $26-ish.
 
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I just picked one up in the automotive section of the Wally-World in Marysville Wa. There is still one more left on the shelf. The beam in mine doesn't seem to have hardly any blueish tint to it.:twothumbs.
 
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Just tore the light apart and removed the ceramic like coating over the wire and re aligned the bulb.....beam looks much better. The shadow from the coating from before is completely gone as well. lovecpf 2 more from last night....from where I am to tower is 1612' ......not bad...gonna go get more shots tonight.
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NoCal, did you try shimming it out to see if it makes a tighter hot spot?
 
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So what's up with the Hi/Low Switch...I don't see a difference

And you won't see a difference with the naked eye. Only bu using a lux meter can it be confirmed that the hi/low switch works. The change is a good 20%; last night the difference was closer to 30% with near dead batteries. The change is very subtle, and occcurs over a 45-70 second time span. The human mind is constanly making adjustments, so the drop is not noticeable. You have to look real hard at the photo to see a difference
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Awesome work MrTB. The hi/lo feature on this light is almost like a living experiment that verifies but us lumen junkies have been saying for years with regards to the inverse square rule and how the brain perceives light output. This is even more evident when you toss in the element of output changing over time. It's practically imperceptible isn't it?
 
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NoCal, did you try shimming it out to see if it makes a tighter hot spot?


yes...what BVH said.

The secondary benefit is that the wire shadow typically gets even smaller.
 
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No luck at two Walmarts by me. But they did have a spot on the shelf and a price tag up, so I'll check back again later. I've been wanting an HID to bring camping and to the beach, this one seems nice.
 
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NoCal, did you try shimming it out to see if it makes a tighter hot spot?

yes...what BVH said.

The secondary benefit is that the wire shadow typically gets even smaller.

I had no idea that this was even possible. I guess I will go over to my buddies and see what he has avail......Probably end up machining some different thickness washers just to see how tight I can get the beam....
 
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If you didn't see it in one of my posts, I ended up shimming about .075" out of the reflector using a "machined" 3/8 flat washer. You could play around with some shim stock to get it even finer. Chances are, if you turn it on with bulb unsecured but in the bore, then start to pull it out, you'll see a star/irregular shaped very tiny hot spot start to form. It won't be round. Keep pulling until is at its smallest. You also notice a very much more defined, round corona border.
 
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Curious. How does this compare with a Sam's club POB?
I've been considering an HID and these are both promising for a first purchase.
 
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