Streamlight Twin-Task 2D review

asdalton

Flashlight Enthusiast
Joined
Dec 12, 2002
Messages
1,723
Location
Houston, TX area
Review of Streamlight Twin-Task 2D

I just got this light today, and I have some bad news and some good news. The bad news is that this 2D light is pretty mediocre, both in the LED and incandescent performance. The good news is that these problems probably won't appear in the other Twin-Task lights, because all of those other flashlights use something better than two alkaline batteries in series. Read on:

Body

This flashlight looks nearly indestructible. The walls are made from thick aluminum, and the switch is deeply recessed to prevent damage or accidental activation. The rim around the lens extends out 1/4", providing some protection if the light is dropped.

The light feels comfortable to carry, even though it is quite heavy. The barrel, bezel, and tailcap are strongly knurled. The switch is easy to use, and the "titanium" color has a pleasing appearance overall. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

LED lights

The first click of the switch activates five of the ten LEDs. These have a bluish tint, but no more so than the LEDs in a lot of other LED flashlights. In a side-by-side comparison, this brightness level seems to emit about as much light as my Eternalight Elite X-Ray, which has only four LEDs (but overdriven from lithium batteries). The LED beam of the SL Twin-Task 2D is less weighted toward the center, too.

The second click of the switch activates all ten LEDs. I would expect this mode to be twice as bright as the 5-LED mode, but for some reason it's not. Part of the reason may be that the beam becomes broader rather than simply more intense. It is also likely that the power supply can't keep up with the current demand, causing the current per LED to decrease.

Whatever the reason, the 10-LED mode definitely doesn't appear twice as bright as the 5-LED mode. It also compares less favorably to other LED flashlights. My Trek 7 running on partially used batteries equals the brightness of the Twin-Task 2D (and the Trek's whiter, too), despite the fact that the Twin-Task has three more LEDs. My Streamlight 4AA, again with seven LEDs, noticeably outshines the Twin-Task with all ten LEDs running.

The Streamlight 4AA is an overdriven light, and it is not necessary bad if another LED light is dimmer. However, the Twin-Task shouldn't show such vastly diminishing returns when the number of LEDs is increased from 5 to 10. I attribute this problem to the fact that the 2D Twin-Task has only a 3-volt battery supply, and that it probably uses a voltage step-up in order to power the LEDs. Apparently, that step-up device isn't very good. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

Incandescent light

Streamlight calls this the "xenon mode," but I'll just call it "incandescent" since it's not any brighter than what you will get from a standard 2D krypton bulb. In the case of this flashlight, the xenon bi-pin bulb serves no purpose greater than being a PITA to replace. Like the LED dimness problem, I attribute the dimness of the incandescent mode to the use of only 2 alkaline batteries. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

The faceted reflector has some advantages and disadvantages. It does avoid the "onion ring" problem when the reflector is adjusted to a broad beam, but it also prevents the light from being focused to a thin, intense beam. When I end up with is a sort of semi-focused state, having a bright center and gradually diminishing brightness outward from the center. This beam would actually be useful if the bulb were brighter /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif. As it is now, the beam ends up looking weak.

As an aside, I would prefer that this type of flashlight have a simple, pre-focused beam for maximum throw. If you want a broad beam, that's what the LEDs are for.

Conclusions

If you want to get one of the new Streamlight Twin-Task flashlights, don't get this one. I have inexpensive incandescent flashlights (Rayovac Workhorse) and inexpensive LED flashlights (Streamlight 4AA) that outperform this flashlight. The body of this light is impressive, but you should expect more power out of a light of this size and weight.

However, I expect both the LED and incandescent performance to be better in the versions that use 3 alkaline batteries, such as the Twin-Task 3C. With the 3C, the incandescent mode will be brighter due to the higher voltage, and advantages of the xenon bulb may become apparent. The LED mode won't need a voltage step-up, since the LEDs can simply be resistored down. It should be more powerful and less complicated.

I'm thinking about ordering the 3C soon, but I think that I've been buying too many flashlights lately. (As if that has ever stopped me before... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

Update:

It looks like my speculation about the effects of voltage are correct, based on data from the Streamlight web site:

Streamlight Twin-Tasks
2D 42 lumens
3C 70 lumens
3AA 46 lumens
1L 35 lumens
2L 72 lumens (!)
LS 35 lumens

So the 3AA version puts out more light than the 2D, and the 3C clobbers them both.
 
Great review asdoltan !!!

I learned alot!

HMMM ,, seems like if I get one it will difenatly be the 3C one. Seems like the idea behind the light is better than the light itself. Im with you, the 10 led's should be twice as bright as 5,,, and the regualr bulb should be at least as bright as a name brand, not cheap flashlight.

One question,,,, do you have a Propolymer 3C? If so, how do the 10 led's in it compair to the 10 led's in the twin task? Im betting its brighter just based on the batteries , as with the twin tasks.

Wonder which is brighter?,,,,, the Propolymer 3C,,, or the Twin Task 3C? hmmmmm
 
Nice review, thanks!

I am with you, I was not excited about the 2D when I read about it. Great ideaa, but it needs more power.

Streamlight is so smart on flashlight design, why didn't they realise this sooner?

Now if it were rechargable, and had a lot more power in the same size . . .!
 
Great review. Perhaps one of the simplest, straight from the heart. We need more hard core stuff like this...save us money and time. I am disaponted...not only in my spelling...but in these lights. Is there any chance for a save left? The LS is a bust...now this one? I am so tired of bullshit lights...you know...you will not win (manufacturers) if you put out crap. Not with the CPF.
 
Asdalton, have you experimented in driving the 2D TT light with 3 Cs to see if it made any noticeable difference? Or is the incandescent locked to 3V...? 2Ds looks like it's grossly underdriving the light...
 
The light straight from Streamlight may be a failure, but there's nothing CPFers can't do to make it "better"...
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
 
I'll second Falcon's sugestion on the 2D to 3C conversion. It might work quite well without resistoring at all. Perhaps a change in the bi-pin bulb if necessary.
 
Jeese guy`s, I say we hook it up to a well charged car batt...that should make it shine...if only for a moment. Then return it of course...defective. So far Streamlight is once again proving that crap is crap...even if called by any other name...still poop. I`m cancelling my order. Maybe they will get the idea...maybe not...as long as CPF still exist...you will loose...we don`t trade dollars for crap. Asdalton, if I were you I would return this light...just tell them you are not happy with the performance. Simply pathatice...like my spelling.
 
[ QUOTE ]
FalconFX said:
Asdalton, have you experimented in driving the 2D TT light with 3 Cs to see if it made any noticeable difference? Or is the incandescent locked to 3V...? 2Ds looks like it's grossly underdriving the light...

[/ QUOTE ]

I tried this last night with 3 partially drained C batteries, and it does improve things quite a bit. The problem is that I had to use aluminum foil and tape, because the barrel is too short to accommodate all three batteries (even if I remove the tail spring). Any suggestions?
 
asdalton, that's what I'd do as well, just use foil, or aluminum washers as spacers... You can try a maglite's coil and see if it works, or can be shortened to work.
 
[ QUOTE ]
KenB said:
Is there any chance for a save left? The LS is a bust...now this one? I am so tired of bullshit lights...you know...you will not win (manufacturers) if you put out crap. Not with the CPF.

[/ QUOTE ]

Someone posted a positive review of the Twin-Task 1L today (on the LED forum). This is good news, because the 1L is another 3-volt light, but one that appears to work well.

I'm optimistic for this line of lights as a whole. The design of the body is a very good sign, for one thing, and all of the lights except the 2D have lumen ratings that are reasonable for their size. The LS version is bright, and whatever color problems may occur are already a well-known issue with the Luxeon LEDs. (Streamlight could be more selective, but that would also raise the price.)

As for the 2D, it seems to me like one of those "compromise" designs that ended up with the worst of everything. They didn't want to make a huge, heavy light containing three D batteries, so they settled for two batteries and ended up with a light that was still heavy but also dim.

I just placed an order for the 3C this morning, and I expect to see it on Thursday or Friday. My 2D will be sent back next week.
 
Great review....

I am also disapointed... when I first saw the twin tasks, I really liked the design, and still do.

I hope someone will post a review about the 3C version soon. Im betting it is alot better.

My Propolymer 3C should arrive by Wensday. I will be posting a review for it as soon as I can. But I might wait till I come back from a camping trip Im taking that following weekend so I can get a "real world" review for it.

P.S. anyone know the lumen rating for the Propolymer 3C?
 
[ QUOTE ]
jtice said:
My Propolymer 3C should arrive by Wensday. I will be posting a review for it as soon as I can. But I might wait till I come back from a camping trip Im taking that following weekend so I can get a "real world" review for it.


[/ QUOTE ]

Based on my experience with the SL 4AA ProPolymer (7 LEDs) flashlight, I expect the 10-LED ProPolymer to be quite impressive. It may even equal the output of some Luxeon lights. My SL 4AA appears about 1/2 as bright as my BadBoy and my Arc LSL-P, both of which contain above-average Luxeons.

I don't really have a use for the 3C ProPolymer right now, and I have been holding off on getting one because of the momentary-only tail switch. (I really hate twist-on lights.) I know that the newer version has a click-switch, and maybe I'll eventually get the 3C ProPolymer if it gets a great review.
 
asdalton....

I am pretty sure the 3C I ordered is the newest version... it better be. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I also like the click buttons better than the twist kind,,, mainly cuz the twisting requires 2 hands.

WOW.... I am gonna have to get one of those Arc LS's, damn they sound nice,, and BRIGHT !!. I cant believe that much light comes out of something so small.

Do you know how much brighter the Premium is compaired to the Standard?
 
I think the 9.5 hour xenon runtime is their big selling point on the 2D TT light.
 
Actually, I think the design philosophy from Streamlight was to create a family of flashlights that were all basically the same design but used whatever the purchaser wanted as their selected cell. We purchased several 3Cs several years ago for my ex-wife's preshool emergency kit because we were also purchasing a couple C-cell flourescent lamps and a couple of Weather Radios that also used C-cells. We wanted to standardize on a single battery size and that worked the best. It also happens to be one of the best of the TT family. I'm not a big fan of the 'focusability' of the incan side, but it was a nice light.

I currently own a 2L TT which I use as a vampire and all around emergency kitchen drawer light. The only really irritating thing about this model is that since there is only one stage of LEDs, the switch seq. goes 'xenon, led, xenon, off', where the first xenon is replacing the low power LED selection on the other models. It doesn't light up and throw light my G2 with the LF HO-6, and the LEDs are kinda blue, but as a general purpose & emergency light it is worth the money. Like I said, I mainly use it as a vampire to finish off the low cells from my G2, and for that use it works real well.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top