Surefire’s 2009 New Lights Discussion

[Sgt. LED]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

The Vampire looks to have an A2 tailcap? So it's what 2 level white and after a ring twist a 2 level IR?

 

[dcjs]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

The Vampire looks to have an A2 tailcap? So it's what 2 level white and after a ring twist a 2 level IR?

That's what the catalogue states, I think I posted the output values in the initial post.

I saw the LX2, AZ2 and M3L at the booth today, no Invictus to be seen.
The M3L is using a combination of a smooth reflector and a diffusion film on the inside of the lens to produce a fairly tightly focused, but not really pretty (I'm a picky ******* though) beam. No donut to be seen.
LX2 had some serious throw, more than the AZ2 which was not even as bright as my PD-s. Remember though that these are protos and the production versions may differ.

Picked up a few sets of catalogues but no post office at the hotel and no time till I get home next tuesday.:shakehead

 

[Federal LG]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

David

Any new model powered by just a single CR123 ?

1x CR123 ?

 

[DaFABRICATA]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

SOMEONE POST SOME PICS ALREADY!!!

A LINK...SOMETHING!!:hairpull:

 

[Federal LG]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT














Yeah... the wait is killing me too!

 

[e2x2e]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

A2L sounds awesome...(I'm assuming that means A2 LED?)

 

[Sw1tch]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

A2L sounds awesome...(I'm assuming that means A2 LED?)

I'd assume that would be the LED version, going by Surefire's naming scheme. (G2 and G2L, etc). A2L is definitely at the top of my to-see list. I need some pics and detailed specs of this thing!

 

[brighterisbetter]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

There are two LED headlamps, one of which can take either 3xCR123 or 2xAA alkalines.

NOOOOO!!!!! PLEASE say it isn't so. Oh well, at least there's no mention of an alkaline handheld, IMO that would be disastrous.

I'm honestly a bit surprised that the L4 isn't receiving an update, or is the LX2 intended to phase it out? :thinking:

 

[danpass]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

I want to hear more about the A2L Aviator. I have always liked this light, but it has become a little too long in the tooth for my liking. Only 60 lumens, and not very efficient. An absolutely fantastic light in it's day though! It just needs a little updating and I will be looking to buy.:twothumbs

Well I'm no flashlight designer but making it a LED main with LED minis (if that is indeed the case) seems very odd considering the two stage LEDs (and the Kroma) that SF already has out. I'm looking forward to hearing more about it as well.


:shrug: :thinking:




Perhaps the OP can reveal the specs for the A2L that are











IN THE CATALOG IN HIS HANDS

😗



.

 

[Kiessling]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

It is about the second beam shape, not the luminous flux. Low flood and high throw. Like the A2 or McGizmo's LunaSol.

 

[Size15's]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

NOOOOO!!!!! PLEASE say it isn't so. Oh well, at least there's no mention of an alkaline handheld, IMO that would be disastrous.

I'm honestly a bit surprised that the L4 isn't receiving an update, or is the LX2 intended to phase it out? :thinking:

We have a long thread on the Saint for ages and ages - primary power source intended to be three-SF123A batteries. Backup power source two-AA batteries.

No mention of an AA-powered handheld? :thinking:


The L4 has received an update. We have a thread on that as well.
Whether the LX2 or whatever is destined to replace the L4 (L4A) if SureFire release it is another matter.

 

[brighterisbetter]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

The L4 has received an update. We have a thread on that as well.
Whether the LX2 or whatever is destined to replace the L4 (L4A) if SureFire release it is another matter.

True, I had forgotten about that when making my post, thanks for the reminder. 🙄

What I said about a AA Alkaline handheld is that I'm glad SF hasn't ventured there. My opinion is in line with this post taken from the "2008 Wishlist" thread:

Please.... PLEASE!! Paul Kim and the mighty powers at SF. Do not release any AA lights. You guys will be warranty replacing battery acid damaged parts in an on-going futile effort to maintain your customer support, and will have to pass the business expense on to customers by further raising prices (worst case scenario).

 

[276]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

I never really took an interest in the A2 but i like the sound of an led version.

 

[Size15's]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

What I said about a AA Alkaline handheld is that I'm glad SF hasn't ventured there.

I believe SureFire's brand is based on the SF123A battery and there is no need for an AA-powered flashlight to have SureFire on it as SureFire have enough to be getting on with.

Al

 

[roadie]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

#134 post still no pics?

we need pics

are the surefire booth there giving out the 2009 catalogue? or freebies?

 

[Shawn L]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

Specs for the A2L
Output: Hi: 120 lums Runtime 2hrs
Lo: 10 lums Runtime 15hrs

Weight: 4.3 oz w/batt
Length: 5.4"
Bezel: 1.13" diam
There is one big led and 4 small led's.

My photobucket is messed up.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

When I saw a Chinese manufactured copy of the A2 that had an LED instead of an incan bulb, I thought that was kind of funny. If you want an LED with a high and low level, why not just get a multi level LED light?

On the other hand, McGizmo has made some lights like this that are brilliant. He has a cooler higher powered LED with decent throw in the center, on the outside of the bezel he put multiple high CRI LED for pure flood. I like that he put them outside of the reflector so the LED beams don't distorted like they are with the A2.

 

[danpass]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

A2L: 120 lumens for 2hrs

wow

 

[flash_bang]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

wow

yeah, you'd think with all this time they could get more out of it.....

 

[Mercaptan]

Re: New Surefire LED lights at SHOT

When I saw a Chinese manufactured copy of the A2 that had an LED instead of an incan bulb, I thought that was kind of funny. If you want an LED with a high and low level, why not just get a multi level LED light?

On the other hand, McGizmo has made some lights like this that are brilliant. He has a cooler higher powered LED with decent throw in the center, on the outside of the bezel he put multiple high CRI LED for pure flood. I like that he put them outside of the reflector so the LED beams don't distorted like they are with the A2.

Beam shape. With the reflector you get a tight beam for throw, but by using small 5mm (or smaller) LEDs you get pure flood. It makes sense for the purposes of the light, a close-in flood and a spot for distance.

I would love to see pictures of the A2L. I would also love to see it hit stores. I hope it arrives at dealers soon as the amount of innovation in this (relative to the UB2, UA2, etc.) is much less.