Surefire’s 2010 New Lights Discussion

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I think we're fixating on the wrong things. I somehow doubt that using loctite on the threads makes a light any cheaper. I think that Surefire is simply working with lower margins than usual on these new lights. They are clearly aimed to take a chunk out of the pie with regards to sub-$100 tactical and utility lights.
 
I try again here...

I'm interested in the Stratum but I'm not sure I like the beam.

The spill seems extremely wide but very dim, is my impression wrong?

The central spot doesn't seem very bright, so my fear is many lumens are lost in a wide but poor spill. :thinking:

I have a Streamlight TLR-2 with a K2 TFFC and I love its beam, but the beam of the Stratum looks different in the pics.

I waited a long time for a Surefire like this, but can't they use an XP-G?! :ohgeez:
 
veleno said:
I try again here...

I'm interested in the Stratum but I'm not sure I like the beam.

The spill seems extremely wide but very dim, is my impression wrong?

The central spot doesn't seem very bright, so my fear is many lumens are lost in a wide but poor spill. :thinking:

I have a Streamlight TLR-2 with a K2 TFFC and I love its beam, but the beam of the Stratum looks different in the pics.

I waited a long time for a Surefire like this, but can't they use an XP-G?! :ohgeez:
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I kind of agree with you in regards to the beam profile of the Stratum. I find the spill too wide to be of much use. In fact the spill is so wide it hit the ceiling and floor directly before one's feet when one is pointing it perpendicularly forward in relation to one's body. The flood is so wide that it makes spotting things further downrange a little difficult as I believe the iris in our eyes would have narrowed slightly to adjust to the amount of spill that was put out. Personally, I wouldn't say the spill is that weak, that's contrary to what you see in beamshots because cameras has poorer exposure latitude thus making it impossible to capture the brightest bright to the darkest dark as what our eyes are capable of doing. I would rather Surefire keep to the traditional P60 style parabolic reflector, but then again I believe they have their own reasons for utilizing the current reflector in the Stratum.
 
These 4 new models look pretty compelling. Why would you buy a 200 lumen China light for this sort of money when you can get a Surefire?

Can't wait to check these out,

James...:thumbsup:
 
Those look fantastic, I hope at least one still has that TIR optic. More affordable lights from SF, can't wait. Lets hope these models don't go the way of the Optimus.
 
veleno said:
I try again here...

I'm interested in the Stratum but I'm not sure I like the beam.

The spill seems extremely wide but very dim, is my impression wrong?
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pjandyho said:
... Personally, I wouldn't say the spill is that weak...
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I have the Z2-S which I believe shares the same reflector and emitter as the Stratum, and the spill is not very dim. Wide, absolutely, but dim, no.

My Z2-S thread has several pictures of the beam ...
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=276572
 
I wonder how these compare to the Stratum and how SureFire expects them to fit into their line of products?

At 200 lumens on high and half the retail price of the Stratum, I am not sure what advantage the Stratum has over the GPX Pro, except a third level?
 
Bucky said:
I wonder how these compare to the Stratum and how SureFire expects them to fit into their line of products?

At 200 lumens on high and half the retail price of the Stratum, I am not sure what advantage the Stratum has over the GPX Pro, except a third level?
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Agreed. I wonder if the G2L and 6PL will still be around by the end of next year.
 
red02 said:
Those look fantastic, I hope at least one still has that TIR optic. More affordable lights from SF, can't wait. Lets hope these models don't go the way of the Optimus.
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They will have deep reflectors, no TIR

GarageBoy said:
I'm curious about the threading
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Heard the heads might be loctited, we'll see when the actual production units come down the line.
 
angelofwar said:
It was probably the same for those of us that were around when all ya had to choose between was a 6P and a 9P, then "C2" was all the talk...
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Good point, looks like I'm not going to have to buy up all the G2Ls and G2Zs after all.
 
Bucky said:
I wonder how these compare to the Stratum and how SureFire expects them to fit into their line of products?

At 200 lumens on high and half the retail price of the Stratum, I am not sure what advantage the Stratum has over the GPX Pro, except a third level?
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That was what I was thinking too. And I wonder what would the resale value of the Stratum be like with this 2 new models out in the market. Not that I really bother since I don't sell off my SF lights but I am sure there are others out here that wants to know.
 
ypsifly said:
I'm wondering what the lenses will be made of? I'm not a fan of lexan, but I won't let it stop me from at least checking them out.
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I think Surefire has already stopped using Lexan for a few years. The G2 I bought two or three years ago seems to be the last batch being offered with a Lexan. If I am not wrong about it, Surefire is using boroflot glass windows instead of pyrex.
 
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Gearbuyersguide on youtube has a video of the new G2X and 6Px from the outdoor retailer show
 
What's the link? I couldn't seem to locate that. Had typed in Gearbuyersguide, outdoor retailer show, 6PX, G2X on Youtube's search but I don't any video on that.
 
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