SureFire 9P + Malkoff M30 + AA/18500

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I want to be able to use SureFire 9P with the Malkoff M30 module, which I understand is designed for 3V versus higher 9V of Surefire 9P.

I also want the flexibility of using 2xAA, whether Lithiums L91 or NiMH or 2x18500 in the same lite if it gets bored out.

Question, I assume I won't be able to use 123A cells in the same lite with the M30 module? Because 3x123A will generate too high a voltage?

If so, that would be OK as long as I could use 2xAA cells or 2x18500 cells. Any other options with the M30 module?

How many lumens am I am looking at?

 

[Rat6P]

The M30 operates between 1v-4.5v.
Of course if you use 3 x cr123(in series) with the M30 it will go
1-4.5v means you can use any batteries you like, as long as it dosnt exceed 4.5v!!

With 2AA the M30 will not run at its potential brightest, But it will still be very bright and run in regulation. When run on a Lithium AW for example the M30 has been reported to have more output than the M60.(just slightly). I know when I run it on 4.2v it is my brightest light.

If you intend to use AA batts in a cr123 tube you will have to use a tube spacer of some sort, regardless of whether you bore it out for larger cells.
I'm afraid you just cant pop em in and go......unless you would prefer a maraca.

Read this

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=194879

 

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How would SF 9P with Malkoff M30 perform with 2xAA NiMh cells?

Lumens and runtime.

Would it outperform Fenix L2D Q5 (2xAA cells)

Say Maha Powerex 2700 mAh or Eneloop, and of course Energizer L91 cells.

 

[Chrontius]

I think you've just built the nicest 2-AA light EVER CONCEIVED but I can't speak to lumens and runtime without knowing the actual wattage of the module. I'd imagine it would be running pretty close to its full potential on Eneloop, L91, or other high-current NiMH though.

 

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That's real good news. I imagine that 9P is an incan by default and you just put in the M30 module?

 

[Sgt. LED]

Quite close to an hour and a half on the AA options.

Buy the M30, buy the 9P, unscrew the bezel, dump out the P90 incan and the 3 CR123 batteries,charge your NihM's, insert 2 wrapped Hi capacity NimH's or 2 primary lithium AA's, put the M30 on top, and put the bezel back on.

Using 2 17500's or 2 18500's will supply the M30 with too much voltage and burn it up.

1 17500 is ok 1 18500 is ok 1 18650 is ok 1 17650 is ok 1 RCR123 is ok 1 CR123 is ok for the M30.

I think I gave you this info in 2 threads last night and now you have created a thread for it yourself. So I have typed it in again for you. I hope you make the purchases soon and enjoy using the light.

 

[kramer5150]

With all the really nice Cree 2AA lights available now, this one should top them all.

 

[Chrontius]

That's real good news. I imagine that 9P is an incan by default and you just put in the M30 module?

Yep.

Alternately, you could feed it the R30 incan module from the 3P, which is the same form factor as the P90 lamp. Not sure why you'd need to, but the option's there.

 

[Sgt. LED]

Yeah I got an extra one of those if anyone wants it.
TOO DIM & YELLOW.

 

[sawlight]

Yeah I got an extra one of those if anyone wants it.
TOO DIM & YELLOW.

Not bitter are we:devil:

You're saying the M30 is too dim and yellow, or the 3P running it is too dim and yellow?
I'm kind of likeing this idea, just for the vesatility aspect.

 

[Bullzeyebill]

Not bitter are we:devil:

You're saying the M30 is too dim and yellow, or the 3P running it is too dim and yellow?
I'm kind of likeing this idea, just for the vesatility aspect.

The Surefire R30 lamp assembly is too dim and yellow. This LA runs with a 3 volt CR123, and with two AA nimh's would really be too dim and yellow.

Do you understand he was not talking about the M30?

Bill

 

[sawlight]

The Surefire R30 lamp assembly is too dim and yellow. This LA runs with a 3 volt CR123, and with two AA nimh's would really be too dim and yellow.

Do you understand he was not talking about the M30?

Bill

No, I did not. That is why I asked, thank you for clearing that up.

 

[Sgt. LED]

Yeah thanks bill! I would never speak ill of my M30.

I love the M30, and could not remove the R30 incan from the light fast enough.

 

[pete55555]

Not sure if this helps but I put an M30 in my C3 by using two of the blue battery spacers (surefire) and one battery. Works just fine.

 

[Bullzeyebill]

Not sure if this helps but I put an M30 in my C3 by using two of the blue battery spacers (surefire) and one battery. Works just fine.

I have done that myself. Works great. You will be pulling almost 1 amp from that CR123, just so you know. Try the 2AA setup in your C3. It will be same brightness, and cheap to use.

Bill

 

[Rat6P]

Another option is a 4xcr123 cell light. (with M30)
That is put an extender on your C3 or 9P and you can use 3xAAA.
Done it with my 6P + 2 extenders. It is brighter with the 3AAA than the 2AA, but I expect the runtime might be lower.
It makes the light quite bright too. My M30 is definately brighter on 3AAA.
That said I prefer the 2AA profile. 3AAA is quite long.

 

[Sgt. LED]

The M30 ought to be a regular item don't you think?

 

[Bullzeyebill]

The M30 ought to be a regular item don't you think?

I think we should leave it alone as a speciality item that we can order from Gene. Otherwise we will be competing against each other to get one. You know what is like to try and order an M60 in any format. You have to be right there, ready to order, or you miss out. In fact I wish all of his items were individually ordered. We would expect some delay, but would not have to fight to get one when he announces new arrivals via email.

Bill

 

[Bullzeyebill]

double post

 

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Quite close to an hour and a half on the AA options.

Buy the M30, buy the 9P, unscrew the bezel, dump out the P90 incan and the 3 CR123 batteries,charge your NihM's, insert 2 wrapped Hi capacity NimH's or 2 primary lithium AA's, put the M30 on top, and put the bezel back on.

Using 2 17500's or 2 18500's will supply the M30 with too much voltage and burn it up.

1 17500 is ok 1 18500 is ok 1 18650 is ok 1 17650 is ok 1 RCR123 is ok 1 CR123 is ok for the M30.

If I cannot run 2x18650 with M30, I can run 2x18650 with M60 module?
IN Surefire 9P?


Of the M60, Gene states on his website: "The input voltage is 3.8 - 9 volts. Below 3.8 volts it will drop out of regulation and run direct drive. The runtime is 1 1/2+ hours on 2 CR123 primary batteries